Iranian Air Defense Systems

[SOHEIL]

i can read this part write in Farsi .

کله کیری

 

[yavar]

For what reason kalle kiriz didn't unveil Talash-3 !?

all i can add is look these two missile and tell me does these missiles are same or even same shape or same aerodynamic ??

and this one

and this one compare them

 

[yavar]

 

[Shams313]

all i can add is look these two missile and tell me does these missiles are same or even same shape or same aerodynamic ??

and this one

and this one compare them

Sayyad...3?

 

[SOHEIL]

Similar ... Sayyad-4 for sure ...

 

[New]

For what reason kalle kiriz didn't unveil Talash-3 !?

It takes them some time to repaint the S300's and represent them as indigenous Bavar bla bla, dude.

 

[Shams313]

It takes them some time to repaint the S300's and represent them as indigenous Bavar bla bla, dude.

Brother dont present urself as a troll..............i hope u r wish enough..........
they will show it.....under political war they can't unveil it.....
and talash-3 and bavar-373 r different.......

 

[PeeD]

Yavar my friend, those two missiles, the Sayyad-4 are the same, its just the different aspec ratio that makes them look different.

 

[yavar]

Similar ... Sayyad-4 for sure ...

The missile Sayyad 4 project is called ? Sayyad 4 is not Talash 3 so it could be Talash 4 or Bavar*********** ( not Bavar 373 )

listen to it care fully when the missile goes pass they call it Bavar project Not Bavar 373 + can you tell me why the middle of missile is been covered up where the it been written on been covered up with sheet you can see the sheet clearly on body of missile

 

[gambit]

ok star war hollywood veteran... US will destroy hundreds of not thousands of TV, Radio, Cell phone tramsmitter all around the way to their central Iranian targets in order to deactivate these type of radars...!!

Not at all.

Gulf War air campaign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

11 of Iraq's 20 major power stations and 119 substations were totally destroyed, while a further six major power stations were damaged.

We just have to destroy enough Iranian electrical power stations to render most -- not all -- those transmitters either useless or too weak to be of any tactical value. This is going on the very generous assumption that Iran have made full deployment of the passive receiver system.

If you can do all this mission impossible then tell me what you can do to avoid being seen by Iranian long range EO/ ER detectors...

Just in case you did not know, there are weaknesses to those passive sensor types as well. Look them up.

those who captured RQ-170 years ago...?

Only gullible fools believe that thing have any value today.

what do you do to not being detected by multiple types of UHF and VHF radars with strong ECCM capabilties? What do you do with OTH multi static radar?

Please...Take a review of Desert Shield, the build up prior to Desert Storm. Did Iraq need OTH radar to know of the massive arms and personnel gathering the US led in the region ? Look at the news today where practically the whole world know the US sent an aircraft carrier to intercept Iranian ships going to Yemen. What need is there of OTH when there is CNN ? If there is going to be a shooting war between US and Iran, rest assured Iran will know of US coming.

Since you are a veteran air force specialist I have a few questions and I would be happy to know the answers if you are high rank enough to know about it of course:

By the same token, why should we listen to you ? Do YOU have any military experience to declare definitively that Iranian radars can detect our 'stealth' jets ? I can tell from your posts that you do not have even the technical basics of the things you boast of Iran, let alone how to use them tactically. You brought on 'passive radars' when there are publicly available information on why there is no such thing and even your own source -- you did not understand. You said the US would destroy individual transmitter stations but did not think of the city's main electrical power stations.

You cheer for Iran. I get that and do NOT fault you for that. But time to face reality, kid, the Iranian military have not fought anyone any different than Iraq, and look what happened to Iraq. The Iranian military announce one fantastic weapon system after another and only people like you believe it. If there is a shooting war, Iran WILL lose.

 

[Tomyris]

Not at all.

Gulf War air campaign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We just have to destroy enough Iranian electrical power stations to render most -- not all -- those transmitters either useless or too weak to be of any tactical value. This is going on the very generous assumption that Iran have made full deployment of the passive receiver system.


Just in case you did not know, there are weaknesses to those passive sensor types as well. Look them up.


Only gullible fools believe that thing have any value today.


Please...Take a review of Desert Shield, the build up prior to Desert Storm. Did Iraq need OTH radar to know of the massive arms and personnel gathering the US led in the region ? Look at the news today where practically the whole world know the US sent an aircraft carrier to intercept Iranian ships going to Yemen. What need is there of OTH when there is CNN ? If there is going to be a shooting war between US and Iran, rest assured Iran will know of US coming.


By the same token, why should we listen to you ? Do YOU have any military experience to declare definitively that Iranian radars can detect our 'stealth' jets ? I can tell from your posts that you do not have even the technical basics of the things you boast of Iran, let alone how to use them tactically. You brought on 'passive radars' when there are publicly available information on why there is no such thing and even your own source -- you did not understand. You said the US would destroy individual transmitter stations but did not think of the city's main electrical power stations.

You cheer for Iran. I get that and do NOT fault you for that. But time to face reality, kid, the Iranian military have not fought anyone any different than Iraq, and look what happened to Iraq. The Iranian military announce one fantastic weapon system after another and only people like you believe it. If there is a shooting war, Iran WILL lose.

bla bla bla bla bla.. attack you waiting for? we too one shot missile can make you disappear from the region

 

[scythian500]

We just have to destroy enough Iranian electrical power stations to render most -- not all -- those transmitters either useless or too weak to be of any tactical value. This is going on the very generous assumption that Iran have made full deployment of the passive receiver system.

what if FM or other transmission sources are powered specifically by independent mobile power sources? What If Iranian commanders know what you are able to do with their NOT EXISTING passive radar and start to do deception operations plus independent power sources for their radars and transmitters?

Just in case you did not know, there are weaknesses to those passive sensor types as well. Look them up.

I looked it up... could not find what can you do to avoid being seen by optical/EO/thrmal long range detectors... would you please enlighten me?

Only gullible fools believe that thing have any value today.

reallly? No COMMENT!!! no actually I have a comment... I understand you.. you have no choice but to say this in case your enemy got that tech!!

Please...Take a review of Desert Shield, the build up prior to Desert Storm. Did Iraq need OTH radar to know of the massive arms and personnel gathering the US led in the region ? Look at the news today where practically the whole world know the US sent an aircraft carrier to intercept Iranian ships going to Yemen. What need is there of OTH when there is CNN ? If there is going to be a shooting war between US and Iran, rest assured Iran will know of US coming.

All these passive and OTH radars and EO.Thermal and in -depth spy units were mentioned only to respond to your claim that those are stealth and we can not see them coming!! I understand you... you have no choice but to say this in case your enemy got that tech!!

By the same token, why should we listen to you ? Do YOU have any military experience to declare definitively that Iranian radars can detect our 'stealth' jets ? I can tell from your posts that you do not have even the technical basics of the things you boast of Iran, let alone how to use them tactically. You brought on 'passive radars' when there are publicly available information on why there is no such thing and even your own source -- you did not understand. You said the US would destroy individual transmitter stations but did not think of the city's main electrical power stations.

Reallllllly? how old are you? your reasoning and discussion basis is so confusing and paradox!! Look... I am a total illiterate person when it comes to weaponry and war... but you lost the robe!! You FIRST claimed that you do this and that and its easy to crush Iranian forces and In response I brought you some doubts and questions... then you don't have to listen to me..but only to enlighten me with my doubts and questions...

You cheer for Iran. I get that and do NOT fault you for that. But time to face reality, kid, the Iranian military have not fought anyone any different than Iraq, and look what happened to Iraq. The Iranian military announce one fantastic weapon system after another and only people like you believe it. If there is a shooting war, Iran WILL lose.

I believe my commanders about what they can do and can not do... If you don,t agree with them you should provide proof that you,re right... for the last time: you claimed US can do this and that and In response I asked a few questions... but instead of enlightening me with your professional answers you call me "someone who does not know anything"!! Ok, I admit it... I know nothing.. please provide fair and technical answers to my doubts and questions:

1- Iran will use EW and ECCM technics and equipment in all its weapon carriers.. from birds , radars up to battle ships... how much you are sure US can beat these systems and with what specific technics or technology it is going to do the job? Please name systems and technics that can bypass Iranian EW and ECCM measures..

2- What is your base argument to stay firm on your repeated claim that Iraq when you invaded them decades ago, were and are much more sophisticated and powerful than Iran 2015?

3- What counter masses a US battle ship have to defend itself against Iranian Hoot torpedo with +360 km/h under water speed?

4- what a US aircraft carrier or battle ship can do to counter let,s say 100 missiles (both cruise and ballistics) coming in order one after another with no pause..?

5- What can be done to not being seen by Iranian electro/optical and night vision long range detectors? Please name the technics as I could not find any..

6- What counter measures US can implement to avoid being seen by OTH +3000 km Sepehr radar? Let,s suppose you want to avoid being seen when your planes want to take off for bombing...

7- what US will do if he loses let,s say 10K soldiers in one day (one aircraft carrier and other stuff) against Iran... I said IF... Will US nuke Iran?? How many dead American soldiers would be enough for your commanders to stop the aggression? Don,t tell me you won,t be in that position... I said IF...

8- ******************************* (it is so secret that I can not even ask a question about it!!)

9- What counter measures can be done against let,s say at least 200 super fast boats (+60 knots) aiming at bombing your battleships and Persian gulf coastal bases?

10- Why since it is normal operational procedure for US and their allies to overthrow opponent countries and just invade them or at least make them submit to their agenda... why despite the fact that Iran is 1000 times more aggressive toward US and its agenda, it took you more than 36 years now to act? What took you sooo long and still nothing??
Don,t tell me US is diplomatic solution fan when it comes to its weaker enemies!!

11- What if Iran disable all GPS communications over Iranian soil and neighboring areas? How you weapons work/?? What if Iran blinded your satellites like it did once or twice already to warn?? http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=2283
 Report: Iran 'Blinded' CIA Spy Satellite : Information
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12- and the most important question: Whatever your weapons and technics are, Why do you think Iranians had not give a thought about it already? Why you think Iranians can not come up with counter measures for your measures? Whatever technic you are aware of, Iranian military think tanks know many times more... Why don't you gave it a slight chance that Iranians have developed something against your technics??

13- How US can disable Iranian communications in battlefield in case they use Encrypted radio wireless communication + Fiber optics + hardcore wires in many cases? bring up practical technics that Iranians are not aware of please...

I have more questions..but since you,re a busy retired veteran I would be happy with these simple questions

PS: I repeat.. I,m an illiterate person regarding war and weapons... enlighten me...

 

[warfareknow]

Talash ?

 

[gambit]

reallly? No COMMENT!!! no actually I have a comment... I understand you.. you have no choice but to say this in case your enemy got that tech!!

Sometimes in debates, it is best to let the deluded be happy.

You are correct. The Iranian military will handily defeat the US.

 

[Daneshmand]

Sometimes in debates, it is best to let the deluded be happy.

You are correct. The Iranian military will handily defeat the US.

Pray tell us why US can not win a single war?

In Afghanistan after 14 years, fighting with barefooted 39th BC century cavemen, you still have not won. Irony is you have started to negotiate with those filthy zombies.

In Iraq, after 8 years, you handed the keys of Baghdad to Iran and left.

In Somalia, you left without achieving anything..

In Lebanon US left without achieving anything.

In Libya, you lost even an ambassador.

In Vietnam, well we all know the truth now. The commies won.

I guess, you have only Grenada and Panama to claim as "undisputed" victories.

When US will learn to fight some one other than lilliputian states with no means to defend themselves, then come here and brag. Because when it comes to real fights, US gets it handed to her and runs away. Example: Ukraine.

Maybe you should next time take it up with Russia and China when they gobble abit more of European territory or abit more of your jobs.

So much so for your muscle. Good for nothing.

Maybe US should stick with what it does best and earns its influence by giving aid, technical cooperation, scientific transfer etc etc. Rather than using its rather useless military that fails to achieve any strategic objective (none whatsoever). At least I do not see a single long term strategic objective that US military particularly its air force having been able to achieve for America post World War II.

Not even one.