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Iranian Air Defense Systems

@PeeD dear sir
Janes claims in its recent report that the missile of 9th-day lacks the radio frequency-transparent nose cones. Is it true?
What is your idea about the seeker of this new missile?
@Muhammed45
I used to read and follow Janes in the far past, and I used to believe that they were among the best because it was Western specialists. However, after the Internet, I realized they are a bunch of crocs. As with most of the western press, Janes is a piece of s...not more, not less. Iran is becoming a real regional power, and in the next decades, it will be undoubtedly a technological power too. Nowadays, the US can no longer attack Iran without undergoing a terrible humiliation that could blow the western system. Imagine now the panic that prevails in the regional neighborhood -including Israel-. Thus, the role of the so-called "media" like Janes is to debunk as long as it is possible Iran's hardware, and Iran's know-how, as they did during the cold war. Indeed in those days, I used to hear for example that soviet submarines lagged behind the US' one because they were for example too much noisy, easily detectable.
The western media in the 2020s are no longer media, but propaganda's tool.
 
@Muhammed45
I used to read and follow Janes in the far past, and I used to believe that they were among the best because it was Western specialists. However, after the Internet, I realized they are a bunch of crocs. As with most of the western press, Janes is a piece of s...not more, not less. Iran is becoming a real regional power, and in the next decades, it will be undoubtedly a technological power too. Nowadays, the US can no longer attack Iran without undergoing a terrible humiliation that could blow the western system. Imagine now the panic that prevails in the regional neighborhood -including Israel-. Thus, the role of the so-called "media" like Janes is to debunk as long as it is possible Iran's hardware, and Iran's know-how, as they did during the cold war. Indeed in those days, I used to hear for example that soviet submarines lagged behind the US' one because they were for example too much noisy, easily detectable.
The western media in the 2020s are no longer media, but propaganda's tool.

Janes actually used to be a decent OSINT analysis site that required a subscription. But they switched some time ago to allowing commentary articles that expressed “opinion”. Quality has since gone down as I don’t see the old type of analysis done anymore. It’s mostly someone’s interpretation of an AP news article now.

But the rise of Twitter OSINT has made sites like Jane obsolete for the most part.
 
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@Muhammed45
I used to read and follow Janes in the far past, and I used to believe that they were among the best because it was Western specialists. However, after the Internet, I realized they are a bunch of crocs. As with most of the western press, Janes is a piece of s...not more, not less. Iran is becoming a real regional power, and in the next decades, it will be undoubtedly a technological power too. Nowadays, the US can no longer attack Iran without undergoing a terrible humiliation that could blow the western system. Imagine now the panic that prevails in the regional neighborhood -including Israel-. Thus, the role of the so-called "media" like Janes is to debunk as long as it is possible Iran's hardware, and Iran's know-how, as they did during the cold war. Indeed in those days, I used to hear for example that soviet submarines lagged behind the US' one because they were for example too much noisy, easily detectable.
The western media in the 2020s are no longer media, but propaganda's tool.


My friend Foxhoundbis,

As far back as early 1990s, when British MOD use to pay for all the Jane's books (the big heavy massive books that are published annually, mostly written or edited by Brits), WE USE TO SIT AROUND and read them during lunch break .... FOR A LAUGH, since they were so often erroneous but we were not allowed to correct them.

I am not sure if they deliberately FALSE INFORMATION, or may be intentional MISINFORMATION for an intelligence agenda, or what?

But, they are so full of errors, you can only laugh.

I use to read them for about 10 years, but that was a long time ago. No more interest in COMIC BOOKS.
 
I am not sure if they deliberately FALSE INFORMATION, or may be intentional MISINFORMATION for an intelligence agenda, or what?
But, they are so full of errors, you can only laugh.

I use to read them for about 10 years, but that was a long time ago. No more interest in COMIC BOOKS.

It seems we do have the same experience about western media, like Janes. The best way to realize what Janes -or any other western media- when they talked about Syria. Suddenly their mask fell.
- Bachar Assad is the "awful dictator", that slaughters his people.
- Ghadaffi is an "awful dictator" too.
- Palestinians, or Lebanese when they try to resist or defend themselves, they are all "terrorist groups"
- Russian, Chinese armies lagged behind the west
- FC-31 is a copycat of F-35, J-20 is a copycat of F-22, J-10 is a copycat of Israeli Lavy
- Russian submarines are all copycat of western hardware
- The "awful, and crazy dictator " of North Korea that threatens world peace
etc...
Let's back to Iran, and what @Muhammed45 said.
At this stage, no one can really answer your question, what is the real state of Iranian EW. The fact that Iranian air defense downed few US state-of-the-art drones does prove a real capacity. Moreover, last year when Iran striked back at the murder of Gen Soleymanieh, without any US reaction, does prove that the US fears Iran.
Immediately after the Iranian attacks, the US sent several dozens of F-35, F-22, EA-18 Growler, F-15C etc...However Iranian detected them immediately, and Iranian air defense could down too many US aircraft. Trump ordered to cancel the reprisals.

If Iranians downed several F-22, with F-35, F-15, it would be a terrible humiliation for the US, even though US Air Force, US Navy would succeed by destroying some Iranian targets. If US losses were too heavy, I think the US won't hesitate one moment to threaten Iran with nuclear weapons, US leaders are too cowardly to do this. If the conflict reaches this dangerous step, and it will be, Iranians won't have thousands of choices, they will threaten the US with nuclear weapons too.
But if this step is reached, it does prove that the US cannot afford a war with Iran-as was the case in Korea 1950, Vietnam war, and Egypt in 1973-, thus their system will immediately collapse. Such a heavy price that the US cannot afford it.
Anyway, this situation proves that Iranian air defense and Iranian electronic warfare seem to be very effective, at least to deter the US to do what they want.
Do not forget that if US leaders decided to give up the F-35, and to dismantle the F-22 fleet at the end of this decade because of what's happened above the middle east skies, in Syria, and above the Persian gulf's skies.
 
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It seems like IRGC is going to unveil a super high altitude air defense system that can hit low orbit satellites ( ballistic missiles ) too that means ( +400 km ) in altitude interception :tup: 🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷


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That’s a 3rd Khordad like system.

It seems like IRGC is going to unveil a super high altitude air defense system that can hit low orbit satellites ( ballistic missiles ) too that means ( +400 km ) in altitude interception :tup: 🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷


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It’s likely that one long range air defense system system we seen on posters with a single dark missile. What’s it called Al Hoda? I forgot the name. It’s poster has been seen in arms exhibitions before.
 
It seems like IRGC is going to unveil a super high altitude air defense system that can hit low orbit satellites ( ballistic missiles ) too that means ( +400 km ) in altitude interception :tup: 🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷


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Usually such critical systems are not shown. I mean its a key system to break the U.S airpower kill-chain, by targeting the support aircrafts.
A main task of the IRGC-ASF to lessen the pressure on IRIAF and IRIADF.
Wonder where that info comes from.
 
Usually such critical systems are not shown. I mean its a key system to break the U.S airpower kill-chain, by targeting the support aircrafts.
A main task of the IRGC-ASF to lessen the pressure on IRIAF and IRIADF.
Wonder where that info comes from.

Yeah, @skyshadow where is the source?

As @TheImmortal mentioned, I am also betting on Sadid 630 missile (part of Al Hoda system?) as the candidate. We havent heard anything from this system since the posters.
 
damn , that is a air defense site , big missiles are deployed launchers are underground
That’s a 3rd Khordad like system.




It’s likely that one long range air defense system system we seen on posters with a single dark missile. What’s it called Al Hoda? I forgot the name. It’s poster has been seen in arms exhibitions before.
Alam Al Hoda is for bombers at long ranges this one has a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense roll in mind
 
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