Iranian Air Defense Systems
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It's definitely 2 different radars
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Finally, PeeD made one right comment in this forum (just joking, of course
).One can see both features at a time in Meraaj-4:
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Army air defense force unveiled Falaq radar, it's a domestically overhauled and updated version of the Gamma radar with 400km range.
due to Russian's inability (read refusal), this radar was inoperational for years. Iranian engineers spent 2300 man-hours on this project.
فیلم/ رونمایی از سامانه راداری فلق
due to Russian's inability (read refusal), this radar was inoperational for years. Iranian engineers spent 2300 man-hours on this project.
فیلم/ رونمایی از سامانه راداری فلق
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Iran seems to got a few Gamma-DE with Nebo-SVU as good gesture deal/compensation from the Russians after they stopped the S-300 deal.
Iran never went to copy it because the Iranian route was for S-band AESAs.
After more than 10 years since Iran got them, mainly the T/R modules will start to fail in such AESAs.
One problem is that Russia has not taken those radars into service and Iran is the only known export consumer.
It looks either like some internal subsystem failed and was repaired (unlikely), or that Iran built a copy of its S-band T/R moule. However 2300 man-hours seems to be too low for the latter.
Maybe a contract was given to IEI to create a L-band TRM with the technology they have via their S-band production and it was easily possible.
It's also possible that Irans S-band AESA family development started with the Gamma-DE after Iran got it around 2008. It was the first AESA radar together with the Nebo-SVU, a good basis to develop a modern S-band AESA (Najm series etc.).
Actually I imagine the story to be like this:
Russians: We can't give you the S-300 your ordered, but we give you free access to buy any radar in our export catalog you want, without limitation.
Iran: That's a good start to solve the issue, we take Nebo, Gamma and Resonanz (and pay this broken contract back by reverse engineering their technology: Gamma-Najm, Resonaz-Ghadir, Nebo-IranianNebo).
Iran never went to copy it because the Iranian route was for S-band AESAs.
After more than 10 years since Iran got them, mainly the T/R modules will start to fail in such AESAs.
One problem is that Russia has not taken those radars into service and Iran is the only known export consumer.
It looks either like some internal subsystem failed and was repaired (unlikely), or that Iran built a copy of its S-band T/R moule. However 2300 man-hours seems to be too low for the latter.
Maybe a contract was given to IEI to create a L-band TRM with the technology they have via their S-band production and it was easily possible.
It's also possible that Irans S-band AESA family development started with the Gamma-DE after Iran got it around 2008. It was the first AESA radar together with the Nebo-SVU, a good basis to develop a modern S-band AESA (Najm series etc.).
Actually I imagine the story to be like this:
Russians: We can't give you the S-300 your ordered, but we give you free access to buy any radar in our export catalog you want, without limitation.
Iran: That's a good start to solve the issue, we take Nebo, Gamma and Resonanz (and pay this broken contract back by reverse engineering their technology: Gamma-Najm, Resonaz-Ghadir, Nebo-IranianNebo).
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Iran Advanced phased array radar system " Falag " wirh 400 KM range
Iran Army air defense chief Gen. Sabahi-Fard: due to Russian's inability (read refusal), this radar was inoperational for years. Iranian engineers spent 2300 man-hours on this project.
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Iran Army air defense chief Gen. Sabahi-Fard: due to Russian's inability (read refusal), this radar was inoperational for years. Iranian engineers spent 2300 man-hours on this project.
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https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1CA1OD
Saudi Arabia agrees to buy Russian S-400 air defense system: Arabiya TV
(Reuters) - Saudi Arabia has agreed to buy Russian S-400 surface-to-air missile systems, Saudi-owned al-Arabiya television reported on Thursday.
The report came during a visit by Saudi King Salman to Moscow.
The countries also signed a memorandum of understanding to help the kingdom in its efforts to develop its own military industries, a statement from state-owned Saudi Arabian Military Industries said.
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SAMI said the MoU with Russian state-owned arms exporter Rosoboronexport came in the context of contracts signed to procure the S-400, the Kornet-EM system, the TOS-1A, the AGS-30 and the Kalashnikov AK-103.
It not specify the number of each system or the value of the procurement deal.
It said the procurement was "based on the assurance of the Russian party to transfer the technology and localize the manufacturing and sustainment of these armament systems in the Kingdom", but provided no timeframe.
A number of deals have been signed during this week's trip by King Salman to Russia, the first by a Saudi monarch
Saudi Arabia agrees to buy Russian S-400 air defense system: Arabiya TV
(Reuters) - Saudi Arabia has agreed to buy Russian S-400 surface-to-air missile systems, Saudi-owned al-Arabiya television reported on Thursday.
The report came during a visit by Saudi King Salman to Moscow.
The countries also signed a memorandum of understanding to help the kingdom in its efforts to develop its own military industries, a statement from state-owned Saudi Arabian Military Industries said.
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SAMI said the MoU with Russian state-owned arms exporter Rosoboronexport came in the context of contracts signed to procure the S-400, the Kornet-EM system, the TOS-1A, the AGS-30 and the Kalashnikov AK-103.
It not specify the number of each system or the value of the procurement deal.
It said the procurement was "based on the assurance of the Russian party to transfer the technology and localize the manufacturing and sustainment of these armament systems in the Kingdom", but provided no timeframe.
A number of deals have been signed during this week's trip by King Salman to Russia, the first by a Saudi monarch
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Yes, thats logical. PAC-123456789 obviously cant do anything against yemeni Scud-D Variants.
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Just a little detail:
When Iran got new Russian radars in ~2008, the Gamma-DE was not disclosed while Nebo was.
This is a example in which a system is regarded as secret.
It probably served a few years until its element count went to low to operate effectively. Russians could not deliver replacement TRMs (item out of production).
10 years later it was disclosed at the parade.
It is possible that those Iranian replacement TRMs will be further developed for that large but empty radar array shown at the Eghtedar 40 exhibition.
Generally S-band AESAs are regarded as better performing in size/power (Gamma-S PESA/AESA), but L-band AESAs could be a choice for a low mobility IRIADF ABM radar (Israeli Green pine is also a L-band AESA but larger).
When Iran got new Russian radars in ~2008, the Gamma-DE was not disclosed while Nebo was.
This is a example in which a system is regarded as secret.
It probably served a few years until its element count went to low to operate effectively. Russians could not deliver replacement TRMs (item out of production).
10 years later it was disclosed at the parade.
It is possible that those Iranian replacement TRMs will be further developed for that large but empty radar array shown at the Eghtedar 40 exhibition.
Generally S-band AESAs are regarded as better performing in size/power (Gamma-S PESA/AESA), but L-band AESAs could be a choice for a low mobility IRIADF ABM radar (Israeli Green pine is also a L-band AESA but larger).
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