Iran Vs Israel Science

[Wright]

With their population, Iran should compare themselves to UK, France, etc.

 

[Abii]

With their population, Iran should compare themselves to UK, France, etc.

UK and france industrialized centuries before Iran. Wtf are you talking about genius? Iran industrialized in the 50's and we're already catching up. For example we already produce more vehicles than GB. We've done things in a few decades which have taken these Europeans centuries, while under practical technological blockade from the West.

 

[Banglar Lathial]

January 2012 is in the past just like January 2002.
Aren't we all living in the past?

January 2012 is still the present calendar year. Sciencedirect.com allows you to search for publications for certain calendar years, or for longer periods, but not for any shorter periods of time.

 

[Takaavar]

With their population, Iran should compare themselves to UK, France, etc.

With so much sanctions and limitations, Iran should compare itself to N.Korea etc.

 

[Banglar Lathial]

With so much sanctions and limitations, Iran should compare itself to N.Korea etc.

If Iran begins to compare itself with France and UK, it needs to obliterate the current populations of America and Australia, take over those resources and resettle those countries with immigrants from Iran. I guess Iran would become a much stronger economy and scientific power, then.

 

[Banglar Lathial]

UK and france industrialized centuries before Iran. Wtf are you talking about genius? Iran industrialized in the 50's and we're already catching up. For example we already produce more vehicles than GB. We've done things in a few decades which have taken these Europeans centuries, while under practical technological blockade from the West.

You forgot that Iran needs to start obliterating the populations of Americas and Australia if it wants to compare itself with UK. Did not Britain do so in those continents? Isn't that how Britain, France and other Western and European countries became rich through colonization and stealing of resources?

 

[Wright]

You forgot that Iran needs to start obliterating the populations of Americas and Australia if it wants to compare itself with UK. Did not Britain do so in those continents? Isn't that how Britain, France and other Western and European countries became rich through colonization and stealing of resources?

You assume it is easy to sail across the world against the wind. You also assume it is a walk in the park to conquer entire landmasses with a handfull of soldiers. Ask Iran, they tried many times with the Greeks.

The Arabs also did the same, albeit they never had the naval capability to reach the new world. What explains their current state today?

Anyhow I doubt the ability to harness electricity, or the steam engine was the result of colonizing others.

 

[Wright]

double post

 

[Abii]

You assume it is easy to sail across the world against the wind. You also assume it is a walk in the park to conquer entire landmasses with a handfull of soldiers. Ask Iran, they tried many times with the Greeks.

The Arabs also did the same, albeit they never had the naval capability to reach the new world. What explains their current state today?

Anyhow I doubt the ability to harness electricity, or the steam engine was the result of colonizing others.

Canadian guy giving history listens. Iran never tried to conquer Greece per say. The first time Iran invaded them was because they sponsored an uprising in Asia Minor.

The second time we invaded Greece we torched Athens from top to bottom. We practically took Greece over. Once we knew we had them, we retreated back to base. A couple of centuries later Alexander rose and returned the favour by torching Persepolis, Iran's then ceremonial capital.

What the Europeans did in Africa by enslaving people is unique to white people. There are records of payments to workers in IRan. Cyrus the Great is famous for not using slaves in the country. There are thousands of stone slabs with payment records to stone masons etc... Iran had North Africa and could have had the rest of Africa if it wanted. But we paid Egyptian stone masons instead of enslaving them.

 

[Banglar Lathial]

You assume it is easy to sail across the world against the wind. You also assume it is a walk in the park to conquer entire landmasses with a handfull of soldiers. Ask Iran, they tried many times with the Greeks.

The Arabs also did the same, albeit they never had the naval capability to reach the new world. What explains their current state today?

The Arabs did the same to Americas or Australia? But then you claim they never had the naval capability to reach the "new world"? Then how could the Arabs have done the same to Americas or Australia?

It was very easy for any advanced civilization to sail across the oceans multiple centuries ago. The Chinese sent some general across to East Africa, but they never colonized Africans or stole their resources. The Chinese only collected flora and fauna for sample, probably.

To compare Iran with France and UK, we should "level the playing field". Either UK or France should be "destroyed" so they start from scratch and then they compete with Iran, or Americans and Australians should be obliterated the same way that Britain did, so that Iranians can use those resources to get wealthy and enact its ambitious projects.

 

[Takaavar]

What the Europeans did in Africa by enslaving people is unique to white people. There are records of payments to workers in IRan. Cyrus the Great is famous for not using slaves in the country. There are thousands of stone slabs with payment records to stone masons etc... Iran had North Africa and could have had the rest of Africa if it wanted. But we paid Egyptian stone masons instead of enslaving them.

Not to mention that was ca. 500 BC, at which time kings e.g. Pharaohs calling themselves "gods" and people "slaves" lol

 

[The SC]

Prior to 1967 Germany gave assistance. Without the following Israel would have problems competing with Jordan never mind Iran:

Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date,
the United States has provided Israel $115 billion in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral
aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received
significant economic assistance. Strong congressional support for Israel has resulted in Israel
receiving benefits not available to any other countries; for example, Israel can use some U.S.
military assistance both for research and development in the United States and for military
purchases from Israeli manufacturers. In addition, all U.S. assistance earmarked for Israel is
delivered in the first 30 days of the fiscal year, while most other recipients normally receive aid in
installments. In addition to receiving U.S. State Department-administered foreign assistance,
Israel also receives funds from annual defense appropriations bills for joint U.S.-Israeli missile
defense programs.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

Do not forget to tell her that Israel prior to 1967 was milking Britain and France financially and militarily(the Suez canal attack in 1956 was carried by Brits and French and a little bit of Israelis) by using the low emotion of pity, most allied European nations were compelled to give money to the poor state of Israel.
(There is an old jewish saying: " take a whole egg each and give me only half each", that is why she was bragging about Israel living in luxury!

Only if they knew than that the whole story of the Holocaust is a big lie, Europe had lost 40 million people in the WW2, that was the real holocaust.

Only if The allies knew that the Jews fought on both sides.

Only if they knew than, that the whole WW2 was a major part of a plan to create the state of Israel, based on the exploitation of human emotions. After that they started exploitation of political loopholes all over the world, and than exploitation of human (Palestinian) labour for decades, after that it started abuse of all the before mentioned and not to forget the thing they are most notorious for and that is the abuse of the Financial realm.

But everyone knows what abuse of any kind leads to...

 

[Archdemon]

Multinational technology companies with R&D centers in Israel:


IBM
Motorola
Intel
Microsoft
Applied Materials
Cisco Systems
Hewlett-Packard
Alcatel Lucent
General Electric
BMC Software
CA Technologies
Philips
Broadcom
Marvell Technology
Siemens
Google
Micron Technology
EMC Corporation
SAP AG
SanDisk
Apple Inc




And Iran?

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

Oh come one people....look at Iranian scientific achievements for example the likes of ibn sina,kwarezmi,razi and so on.
if it was not for us then these zionists would be counting using stones.
Israel right now is ahead of Iran no doubt, but Iran is growing 11x faster than any other country, you need to come back and make such thread in 2018. right now we are on a thresh-hold in science, we are just beginning and these Israelis simply cannot match Iranian speed.

you can be a fool and say yes Iran may have more articles but we will have better quality, but remember "quantity has it's own quality".

 

[lem34]

I have noticed in recent months articles on Iranian science doing well cropping up on the forum all the time.

On almost each and every occasion Israeli or Saudis have questioned the sources and suggested that maybe it is propaganda.

I myself have felt that maybe the Iranians are working harder as they are under sanctions etc. This is relevant to us Pakistanis as we are often sanctioned by America or threatened with sanctions. In any event I am happy for my Iranian brothers.

I have gone to an independent site and it allows us to compare countries.
SCImago Journal Rank

SCImago Journal Rank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No one can say this is an Israeli or Iranian source etc.

In the first search I have compared Iran Israel Saudi and Pakistan. I am shocked Iran is was ahead of all other 3 Saudi are bottom. Though Pakistan and Saudis would appear to be getting better Pakistan is ahead os Saudi.


The shocking thing is that Iran is miles ahead of Israel and is going further. This must be particularly pleasing for Iranians cos whilst they have sanctions to cope with Israel is the only country that gets hard cash grants from America for its research in science.


SJR - Compare countries

Do not allow the Israelis derail the thread. look at the initial posts where independent agencies report that Iran is on the move upwards and Israel downwards. They do not want to discuss that