Iran Vs Israel Science

[PakistaniandProud]

Since this is a military forum, can someone tell me any Iranian weapon which is not a copy and not a joke?

Pak behind Iran missile test: Israeli expert - Times Of India

Israeli security experts suspect Pakistani hand in the technological advances shown by Iran in its latest Sejil-2 missile test, which with a range of 2,000km can hit Israel, southern Europe and American bases in the Middle East.

Yiftah Shapir of the Institute for National Security Studies at Tel Aviv University was quoted by daily Ha'aretz as saying that Sejil 2 is closer to a Pakistani missile, unlike the Shehab 3 tested by Iran earlier which was based on Soviet and North Korean Scud technology. "It is closer to a Pakistani missile, the Shaheen II", Shapir said.

 

[jayron]

Nobel Prize started by Jews for Jews.



If he is Arab he has clearly got Stockholm Syndrome. After getting kicked they know speak the virtues of their captors.

Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lol. this is sour grapes loser talk. grow up kid.

 

[gambit]

FOR EXAMPLE USA spend million of dollars to build a pen that writes in space, instead Russian astronauts used pencil!!!!

You felled for that myth, eh?

snopes.com: NASA Space Pen

NASA never asked Paul C. Fisher to produce a pen. When the astronauts began to fly, like the Russians, they used pencils, but the leads sometimes broke and became a hazard by floating in the [capsule's] atmosphere where there was no gravity. They could float into an eye or nose or cause a short in an electrical device. In addition, both the lead and the wood of the pencil could burn rapidly in the pure oxygen atmosphere. Paul Fisher realized the astronauts needed a safer and more dependable writing instrument, so in July 1965 he developed the pressurized ball pen, with its ink enclosed in a sealed, pressurized ink cartridge. Fisher sent the first samples to Dr. Robert Gilruth, Director of the Houston Space Center. The pens were all metal except for the ink, which had a flash point above 200°C. The sample Space Pens were thoroughly tested by NASA. They passed all the tests and have been used ever since on all manned space flights, American and Russian. All research and developement costs were paid by Paul Fisher. No development costs have ever been charged to the government.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fact-or-fiction-nasa-spen

Originally, NASA astronauts, like the Soviet cosmonauts, used pencils, according to NASA historians.

Pencils may not have been the best choice anyway. The tips flaked and broke off, drifting in microgravity where they could potentially harm an astronaut or equipment. And pencils are flammable--a quality NASA wanted to avoid in onboard objects after the Apollo 1 fire.

Paul C. Fisher and his company, the Fisher Pen Company, reportedly invested $1 million to create what is now commonly known as the space pen. None of this investment money came from NASA's coffers--the agency only became involved after the pen was dreamed into existence.

According to an Associated Press report from February 1968, NASA ordered 400 of Fisher's antigravity ballpoint pens for the Apollo program. A year later, the Soviet Union ordered 100 pens and 1,000 ink cartridges to use on their Soyuz space missions, said the United Press International. The AP later noted that both NASA and the Soviet space agency received the same 40 percent discount for buying their pens in bulk. They both paid $2.39 per pen instead of $3.98.

Nice story to try to make the US stupid but it usually ended up making the person posting it look even more silly.

 

[Takaavar]

You felled for that myth, eh?

snopes.com: NASA Space Pen


Fact or Fiction?: NASA Spent Millions to Develop a Pen that Would Write in Space, whereas the Soviet Cosmonauts Used a Pencil: Scientific American

Nice story to try to make the US stupid but it usually ended up making the person posting it look even more silly.

Oh, gambit.

Since this is a military forum, can someone tell me any Iranian weapon which is not a copy and not a joke?

Say, 500, what your "country" could achieve so far if it wasn't dog of US?

 

[Al-Otaibi]

Let’s not get fooled by numbers. This is a misleading thread.

What matters is the quality not the quantity. I work in this field and i know what I’m talking about. Number of publications is one element to evaluate the research capacity of a country or a center. However, it will never be alone a quantifying criterion neither will it ever a give a reliable measurement of the science strength. I was surprised of the ignorance of the thread creator who jumped into drawing conclusions from the publications numbers…. This is a joke in the science community.

Countries can boost their publications without affecting their science strength. This is common sense to any researcher. What matters is the quality and materials that u r publishing… u can publish a patent and u can publish 100 measurements of a variable at different conditions in the lab that are not going to help u a bit… which one does make a difference?

Any country can boost their publication number by sitting up a strategy that their researchers use small scale papers by splitting a good paper into 5 papers and publishing each one in a conference.. Also, they can target cheap conferences and publish as many trash as they can as the committee is looking for papers to fill the time slots…. there are so many ways to be well ranked in this list... but what counts at the end of the day is quality not quantity... and not any quality… a breakthrough findings type and not "did u know" type findings…

Bigger is not always better in Science … back to my first sentence, let’s not get fooled by numbers.

 

[Abii]

^^
What field is that?

Discovery of new methods to blow yourself up or new drugs to keep your virginity while driving a car?

 

[Al-Otaibi]

^^
What field is that?

Discovery of new methods to blow yourself up or new drugs to keep your virginity while driving a car?

Research & Development... I'm sure u never heard of it before, idiot.

 

[Arabian Legend]

Let’s not get fooled by numbers. This is a misleading thread.

What matters is the quality not the quantity. I work in this field and i know what I’m talking about. Number of publications is one element to evaluate the research capacity of a country or a center. However, it will never be alone a quantifying criterion neither will it ever a give a reliable measurement of the science strength. I was surprised of the ignorance of the thread creator who jumped into drawing conclusions from the publications numbers…. This is a joke in the science community.

Countries can boost their publications without affecting their science strength. This is common sense to any researcher. What matters is the quality and materials that u r publishing… u can publish a patent and u can publish 100 measurements of a variable at different conditions in the lab that are not going to help u a bit… which one does make a difference?

Any country can boost their publication number by sitting up a strategy that their researchers use small scale papers by splitting a good paper into 5 papers and publishing each one in a conference.. Also, they can target cheap conferences and publish as many trash as they can as the committee is looking for papers to fill the time slots…. there are so many ways to be well ranked in this list... but what counts at the end of the day is quality not quantity... and not any quality… a breakthrough findings type and not "did u know" type findings…

Bigger is not always better in Science … back to my first sentence, let’s not get fooled by numbers.

^^
What field is that?

Discovery of new methods to blow yourself up or new drugs to keep your virginity while driving a car?

different mentally and different intellectual level. huge gap

 

[The SC]

Congratulations, Iran is only 9 ranks below Israel.
SJR - International Science Ranking

A nation of 7.7 million has more published documents than a nation of 80 million.

7 millions without counting the other 7 million in the US and another 15 millions spread all over the planet to spy and steal scientific achievements to sell to the highest bidders, you had and have no concern for sciences throughout history nor for the betterment of yourselves and others. you'll use even God to make money, fraudulent money as fraudulent state of Israel.
You count mainly on the US to inflate your egos by some candy like scientific papers.
Iran at least has the the credit of doing it by themselves.

 

[500]

Say, 500, what your "country" could achieve so far if it wasn't dog of US?

US switched to Israel's side only AFTER 1967 war. Israel had more GDP per capita then than Spain and Italy.

 

[SOHEIL]

US switched to Israel's side only AFTER 1967 war. Israel had more GDP per capita then than Spain and Italy.

Yes ! thanks Uncle sam

 

[lem34]

US switched to Israel's side only AFTER 1967 war. Israel had more GDP per capita then than Spain and Italy.

Prior to 1967 Germany gave assistance. Without the following Israel would have problems competing with Jordan never mind Iran:

Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date,
the United States has provided Israel $115 billion in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral
aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received
significant economic assistance. Strong congressional support for Israel has resulted in Israel
receiving benefits not available to any other countries; for example, Israel can use some U.S.
military assistance both for research and development in the United States and for military
purchases from Israeli manufacturers. In addition, all U.S. assistance earmarked for Israel is
delivered in the first 30 days of the fiscal year, while most other recipients normally receive aid in
installments. In addition to receiving U.S. State Department-administered foreign assistance,
Israel also receives funds from annual defense appropriations bills for joint U.S.-Israeli missile
defense programs.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

 

[500]

Yes ! thanks Uncle sam

I repeat, it was before US aid.

Prior to 1967 Germany gave assistance. Without the following Israel would have problems competing with Jordan never mind Iran:

Germany made only one payment of 3 bln marks in barter. Mostly it was US weapons from German stores. Stop being jealous, its really pathetic.

 

[SOHEIL]

I repeat, it was before US aid.

Ok ! thanks Uncle Britain

 

[lem34]

I repeat, it was before US aid.


Germany made only one payment of 3 bln marks in barter. Mostly it was US weapons from German stores. Stop being jealous, its really pathetic.

Its not about jealousy its about comparing how well Iran has done despite sanctions whereas Israel has received more aid than any other country in the world to assist it and puts to bed the myth that you are supermen