drmeson
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Pakistan is the ONLY Muslim country with nuclear weapons. Iran might be nuclear capable but Pakistan was already and has around 200 nukes.
You are talking talking nonsense. Nuclear weapons and capability is a grey area where countries differ on their doctrine. Some have all deployed arsenals (US, USSR). Others have few ready deployed devices and keep the rest of the arsenal in "Assembly-away" stand by position (Israel probably and China specifically). In the case of Iran with multiple underground nuclear enrichment and weaponization bases, NOBODY in this world knows what Iran has or has not. Israeli Intelligence and American think tanks report that Iran may have been conducting simulated or real cold fission tests for a long long time, may be since 1990s to create a robust "standby" nuclear capability in deep underground tunnels. You need to read about Project Amad. Israelis and American reported that even before 2003 Iran had functional neutron accumulator guns and even full designs on capable delivery vehicles (about the size of a suitcase or car tire) that fitted Shahab-3 MRBM which is retired now in favor of IRBM arsenal like Sejjil-II, Khorramshahr-II, Emad-MaRV. So nobody knows what Iranian strike force has or not. At best it may have 30-40 tactical to strategic fission devices already with 0.1 to 2 KT yields. Israelis reported a prospect of 5 x 10 KT in 2003 or in standy by position. Thats 20 years ago and even Israelis do not know if the papers they got were plans to be implemented or already implemented that is what David Albright said. Maybe the papers were strategically placed there to be found by Israelis. Strategists of any country are not stupid. Today IAEA has been kicked out of Iran. What is happening in Iranian underground facilities right now? Plausible deniability is a weapon in strategy. Israel has never claimed nuclear capability either.
Pakistan also has ICBM capability for years now and has a wide range of indigenous ballistic and cruise missiles for years now.
Pakistan had missile technology before
Iranians. Just because we don’t test ICBM doesn’t mean we are not ICBM capable. It’s only enough to demonstrate you have the ability to build such when needed.
Seeing is believing. Your claims are without any evidence. Pakistan has a two staged solid fueled system called Shahin-III (2750 km) which I believe is the workhorse of the MRBM/IRBM domain and there was one test of same Shahin-II with MIRV bus installed on it called Ababil-I (2200 KM). Thats it, nothing in three stage domain or successful SLV test has ever been demonstrated above this to believe existance of ICBM capability. If anything has been tested "Successfully" otherwise please post it here. I follow reports of Mr. Nobert Brugge, Janes, Missile Threat, IISS etc and they dont even miss Chinese or Russian developments let alone anyone else's ...
Meanwhile. Iran is the only Islamic country to have successfully ever deployed 3 staged SLVs/Missiles that too with solid stages. This 3-staged SLV is deployed from an apogee of 1000-1200 km becomes a long range ICBM. Its current Missile form we have is Sejjil-II/III that according to Janes/Missile threat/IISS has a range of 2400-3000 km depending upon what RV it deploys because it has two types.
Its not just the only system we have, read this thread's first post (OPERATIONAL SLVS OF IRAN), IRGC (other than Iranian space Agency) operate their own TEL road Mobile 3 staged SLV called Qased with a TVC controlled last stage, which has a 100 % success rate of deploying Satellites in LEO. That too can be deployed as ICBM because it fits the bill of a Missile. Road Mobile TEL, last stage has TVC.
Current Iranian Maximum Ballastic missile tested range is in form of Khorramshahr-II MaRV which according to IISS (Americans) has a range of 3000-3200 KM for a 0.5 Tons warhead with a CEP of less than 10m. Its similar to DPRK's Hwasong-12 but different because it deploys an MaRV and has no booster fins.
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Developing a solid fuelled missile is much harder and better then liquid fuelled. Pakistan also uses indigenous engines on its cruise missiles and now has put Harbah up for export.
Our majority arsenal is based on solid fueled systems including operational SLVs. We even have a small sized solid-fueled skip glide MaRV at MRBM range (1450-1500 tested) that comes down at target at 4-5 Mach from quasi Ballistic trajectory and has a CEP of < 2 M. This is our workhorse for taking out enemy stationary ships, airbases (hardened aircraft shelters). I think you just read old wikipedia pages in a hurry to create this response and missed everything.
Pakistan had missile technology before
Iranians
Thats a BS claim because history does not agree with you.
In 1980s, Iran and Pakistan both got a lottery package out of North Korean imports called Hwasong-7 and 8, which became Ghori-I/II (smart name; a Tajik warrior king who invaded India) and Shahab-III in Iran in the 1990s. It happened same time. Ghori-I/II were tested in 1998 and 1999 while Shahab-III was tested in 1998-2002 (different versions). Both programs got changed after that. Iran focused on Sejjil system while liquid family went to SLVs (first satellite launch in 2009).
Later Iran Shahab-III got a MaRV for accuracy with control surface fins to become Emad-I which evoluted recently into Emad-II with Jet vanes (TRV= Thrust Re-entry Vehicle) for extreme level accuracy at MRBM ranges. Pictured below.
Best way to catch a Missile origin is to check its stage diameter and color of its exhaust. 1990s Hwasong7/8, Shahab-III, and Ghori I/II all belonged to same soviet family/north korean family. And they started at same time in 1990s. Your patriotic claim of Oh Pakistan got its technology early is just baseless.
Also Iran and Pakistan are not competitors. Stop posting flaming comments here just because you have some weird sectarian thing going that you developed in west.
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