Iran to Purchase Sukhoi-30 Fighter Jets From Russia

[AmirPatriot]

Su-30s, Mi-8s: Iran Considers Inking $8 Billion Arms Deal With Russia

Iran plans to buy the Sukhoi Su-30SM fighters, the Mil Mi-8 and the Mil Mi-17 helicopters, as well as other weapons from Russia in an arms deal worth more than $8 billion, the Kommersant newspaper reported, citing unnamed sources.

"Tehran has already sent a list of military hardware that Iranian Armed Forces would like to purchase from Moscow," the daily added, saying that the Russian Ministry of Defense, the Russian government and the Kremlin have already seen the list.

The Iranians allegedly want to buy the Sukhoi Su-30SM multirole fighters, the Yakovlev Yak-130 advanced jet trainer and light attack aircraft, the Mil Mi-8 and Mil Mi-17 transport helicopters, as well as the K-300P Bastion-P mobile coastal defense missile systems, frigates and diesel-electric submarines.

Last Thursday, a source in the Iranian Defense Ministry confirmed that Iran was interested in acquiring the Sukhoi Su-30 to upgrade its fleet. The source did not specify what version of the aircraft Iran was interested in. A day earlier, Iranian Defense Minister Hossein Dehghan, who is on a two-day visit to Moscow, mentioned that Tehran wanted to seal a license production deal with Russia.

"The addition of any Su-30 variant would greatly increase the capabilities of the Iranian air force, which is mostly equipped with an antiquated mix of American-, Russian- and Chinese-built hardware," defense expert Dave Majumdar wrote for the National Interest.

Tehran, according to the Kommersant, could also ask Moscow's help in repairing Iran's fleet of the Mikoyan MiG-29s, Sukhoi Su-24MKs and submarines.

Su-30s, Mi-8s: Iran Considers Inking $8 Billion Arms Deal With Russia

I'm much more skeptical of this $8 billion figure now. Helicopters I can understand (the national helicopter project has been going slowly) but submarines? They are a non-issue. And while the P-800 is an excellent missile, Iran already has "carrier killer" missiles in the form of the Khalije Fars. And I don't think they are about to buy Yak-130 trainers since Iran is actively designing and using many trainers right now, to go for the Yak-130 seems odd, however good it is. So yeah, take this report with a grain of salt now.

 

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Maxim Stulov / Vedomosti


Iran is set to begin negotiations on a new deal to buy Russian Sukhoi fighter jets, the country's Defense Minister announced on Sunday.

Speaking on Iranian television, Brigadier General Hossein Dehgan said that move made part of wider plans to develop the Iranian air force.

Tehran has also recently received a Russian S-300 anti-aircraft missile defense system, which was first purchased by Iran in 2007.

The deal was suspended in 2010 due to UN sanctions against the country, but was resumed again in November 2015.

Testing of Iran's Bavar-373 anti-aircraft system is also to take place in the near future, Dehgan said.

 

[war&peace]

Where is the source of the news?

 

[Samak]

Where is the source of the news?

Exclusive interview with Iran National TV
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We asked for Su30

 

[AmirPatriot]

I saw the interview. He actually said the Russians didn't decline to sell us the Su-30 and related domestic production, but negotiations are still ongoing. My guess is that sanctions are still an issue.

 

[war&peace]

Exclusive interview with Iran National TV
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We asked for Su30

But according to OP, Iran got S-300 while on another threads regarding Bavar, Iranis are claiming that Iran was rejected from S-300 thus Bavar is not a copy of S-300. So who to believe? it is better if the link is included otherwise it is just not worthy of this forum

 

[SOHEIL]

Just imagine if Russians refuse to sell su30 & leader orders for an Iranian fighter

 

[raptor22]

Just imagine if Russians refuse to sell su30 & leader orders for an Iranian fighter

As I know at first stage of our missile program back in 90s we could have buy large number of cheap Scud missiles from NK without any problem but the leader prevented the deal and insisted on working on indigenous capabilities ... and now we see the fruits ... we put our made satellites into orbit by our own missiles ...
Right now we need to renew our old fleet immediately, that's why I think we need to opt both way purchasing Su-30 to fill the gap in short term and meanwhile proceeding on Iranian fighter program for long term needs as it happened about S-300 and Bavar ....

 

[Serpentine]

But according to OP, Iran got S-300 while on another threads regarding Bavar, Iranis are claiming that Iran was rejected from S-300 thus Bavar is not a copy of S-300. So who to believe? it is better if the link is included otherwise it is just not worthy of this forum

It's not really that hard to understand:

In 2010 Russia refused to sell S-300s, Iran began working on a domestic system. In 2016 now it's almost completed, while after the nuclear deal, Russia also agreed to supply the S-300s it once refused to sell. These are 2 separate issues.

 

[war&peace]

It's not really that hard to understand:

In 2010 Russia refused to sell S-300s, Iran began working on a domestic system. In 2016 now it's almost completed, while after the nuclear deal, Russia also agreed to supply the S-300s it once refused to sell. These are 2 separate issues.

Makes some sense but one confusion though, Has Russia just shown willingness to sell S-300 or Iran has already got it (because OP claims Iran has it) and as you people claiming it to be better than S-300 then why would Iran buy that in the first place instead of spending the budget on developing the indigenous system?

Tehran has also recently received a Russian S-300 anti-aircraft missile defense system, which was first purchased by Iran in 2007.

 

[Serpentine]

Makes some sense but one confusion though, Has Russia just shown willingness to sell S-300 or Iran has already got it (because OP claims Iran has it) and as you people claiming it to be better than S-300 then why would Iran buy that in the first place instead of spending the budget on developing the indigenous system?

S-300 has been produced years ago, and it has been tested various times. Bavar-373 is the first long range air defense system and our most advanced one, developed by Iran and it may take some time to mass produce it or improve it and fix possible problems which show up in tests, so it doesn't really hurt to have S-300s which were on the shelf, ready to buy, while working to mass produce our own system. Common sense 101.

 

[war&peace]

S-300 has been produced years ago, and it has been tested various times. Bavar-373 is the first long range air defense system and our most advanced one, developed by Iran and it may take some time to mass produce it or improve it and fix possible problems which show up in tests, so it doesn't really hurt to have S-300s which were on the shelf, ready to buy, while working to mass produce our own system. Common sense 101.

I see... Good then Thanks

 

[Rukarl]

Makes some sense but one confusion though, Has Russia just shown willingness to sell S-300 or Iran has already got it (because OP claims Iran has it) and as you people claiming it to be better than S-300 then why would Iran buy that in the first place instead of spending the budget on developing the indigenous system?

Serpentine already answered this, you seem somewhat confused so let me try to clear it up.

Iran had no plan to develop long range air defense at the time it ordered the s-300, however when the Russians showed refusal to give Iran the s-300, then Iran started to develop its own system.

If you're asking why Iran carried on the deal even though we had Bavar in design stage then there is some points to note.
Iran has the s-300pmu2 now, whereas Bavar will not be produced for another year so its important we have long range capability for time being. Another point is that when Russia refused to deliver s-300, Iran sued Russia and they were on the verge of being forced to pay Iran billions in compensation, however for political reasons, Iran voided the court case and instead to chose to allow Russia give the s-300 instead. So as you see, there is alot of history here.

Also, Iran said it refused an offer to purchase the s-400 now that it has Bavar, not s-300. These comments were made very recently. Obviously once Bavar is in production, no need for s-400. Having said that, I would not mind a few s-400 in Iran so we can compare the capabilities of Bavar to it.

 

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Makes some sense but one confusion though, Has Russia just shown willingness to sell S-300 or Iran has already got it (because OP claims Iran has it) and as you people claiming it to be better than S-300 then why would Iran buy that in the first place instead of spending the budget on developing the indigenous system?

Iran has it.....may be u will find pix on internet now or later
Using Iranian air base and s300 defence deal was done bit time earlier to induct on right time

 

[Samak]

Iran has it.....may be u will find pix on internet now or later
Using Iranian air base and s300 defence deal was done bit time earlier to induct on right time

Or maybe Russians accept to deliver s300 and even offer s400 when they found out Bavar is real deal

I'm sure if we test Q313 , then Russians will be ready to sell Su30 to us , immediately ....