Iran Summons Turkish Envoy over President Erdogan’s Comments

[Salmanov]

Erdoğan has many speeches like this that piss people off, I think he knew about it but strategically and realistically he has no ambitions against Iranian land.

Iran was never more powerful than Turkish states since Turks moved to Anatolia and was ruled by Turkish dynasties and rulers. With Shah Abbas onwards it can be claimed as more Iranian, but let's not forget the Great Selçuks, Harzemsah, AK koyunlu, kara koyunlu etc etc.

Anyways i don't think it will be wise for him to open more fronts, yet whenever we did good agreements and tried to help Iran they are not a trustworthy partner. Against USA there was the Turkish Brazilian Iranian agreement and many other times. We don't have land disputes with Iran. Our focus now is fighting the modern crusade of France, Greece and their EU buddies.

Why do some Turks encourage separatism in other countries when their country suffer the most Voilent separatism in the region??!!

 

[Baybars Han]

Hi sir,
Unfortunately or fortunately Erdogans plans won't work in case of Iranian Azeris maybe because of religious reasons or possibly for nationality of Azeris that has always been Iranic. These statements from this guy that he throws here and there occassionally about occupying Greece, Armenia, parts of East of EU is getting comic. His recent Statement about Iran's Azerbaijan is more ridiculous than his other claims. I always respect your nationalistic feelings until it doesn't hurt other people. What Erdogan wants is possible only through a big war which won't end well for neither One of regional countries more importnantly for our Brothers in Turkey. Keeping in mind that Iran is not some kind of Arab shit states that while having American thing up in their back, they give blowjob to Israelis.

There must be a difference between us. And i hope Erdogan takes this complaint seriously.

It will be in no ones interest other than Israel and the west for Iran and Turkey to have problems.

Why do some Turks encourage separatism in other countries when their country suffer the most Voilent separatism in the region??!!

Nobody encourages seperatism, unless you focus on youtube comments. Trust me as Iran is dealing with USA and Israel we are also dealing with multiple problems and fronts. EU wants to sanction us, USA does even though Greece has s-300's so a big hyprocrisy, we have a refugee problem that we want to solve. Just as the Anatolian Seljuks had to deal with the brunt of the Crusades, as we are closest to EU, their new weapons are economic sanctions.

 

[Dariush the Great]

It will be in no ones interest other than Israel and the west for Iran and Turkey to have problems.


Nobody encourages seperatism, unless you focus on youtube comments. Trust me as Iran is dealing with USA and Israel we are also dealing with multiple problems and fronts. EU wants to sanction us, USA does even though Greece has s-300's so a big hyprocrisy, we have a refugee problem that we want to solve. Just as the Anatolian Seljuks had to deal with the brunt of the Crusades, as we are closest to EU, their new weapons are economic sanctions.

Well, Erdogan's comments were not helpful. Instead saying such things he should publicly back Iran against Israel.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

TEHRAN – The Iranian Foreign Ministry summoned Turkey’s ambassador in protest at Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s “interventionist” comments during a recent visit to Baku, the ministry’s spokesperson said.

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Saeed Khatibzadeh said on Friday that ambassador of Turkey to Tehran has been summoned over the “interventionist and unacceptable” remarks that Turkish President Erdogan has made during his visit to the Republic of Azerbaijan.
The Iranian Foreign Minister’s assistant and director general of Eurasia at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has summoned Turkey’s ambassador to Tehran on Friday, December 11, 2020, to voice Iran’s strong protest against the Turkish president’s comments, Khatibzadeh added.

The envoy has been reminded that the Islamic Republic of Iran demands an immediate explanation from the Turkish government for the issue, the spokesman noted.
The Turkish ambassador has been also notified that “the era of territorial claims and warmongering and expansionist empires” has ended long ago, Khatibzadeh added.

“It was made clear to the Turkish ambassador that the Islamic Republic of Iran would not allow anybody to meddle in issues about its territorial integrity, and as its (Iran’s) glorious history testifies, it would not cede even an inch when it comes to its national security,” Khatibzadeh underlined.
His comments came after Turkish President Erdogan provoked controversy when he recited lines from a folk song that laments partitioning of the lands inhabited by Azeri people by the Aras river.
The border river of Aras separates northwestern Iranian territories from the Republic of Azerbaijan.

Iran Summons Turkish Envoy over President Erdogan’s Comments - Politics news - Tasnim News Agency

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – The Iranian Foreign Ministry summoned Turkey’s ambassador in protest at Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s “interventionist” comments during a recent visit to Baku, the ministry’s spokesperson said.

www.tasnimnews.com

He should educate himself about history of that region.

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Be careful kid while uploading maps here on Pakistani forum. You will be trashed in no time.


Any border lines going into the sovereign territory of Pakistan will get a strong middle finger straight away.

I guess they dont teach you Persians about Indus civilisation. The world first. The place you called Iran was civilised by us , it was part of our domain. So be careful when you post some random maps. There were many empires and civilisations before you lot even existed who ruled over territory which you now inhibit. Dont force other nations to invoke their own claims.

 

[Uguduwa]

This turkish trump needs to keep his mouth shut or soon the whole neighbourhood will be up on him.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Lol the info aryans of the Indus Valleys are one family with the Iranians

LOL

BS. you Persians didnt even existed when IVC ruling this region and beyond. IVC is much older then the babylonian and Egyptians, you Persians are not even in the picture. You are not even classed as civilisation and there are only three recognized ancient civilisation, IVC, Babylon and Nile. That's about it.

 

[Ich]

LOL

BS. you Persians didnt even existed when IVC ruling this region and beyond. IVC is much older then the babylonian and Egyptians, you Persians are not even in the picture. You are not even classed as civilisation and there are only three recognized ancient civilisation, IVC, Babylon and Nile. That's about it.

What does it mean "recognized"? And who decide it?

What i learned is that there were cultures and civilizations far more than 10000 years ago. Even in Europe.

 

[drmeson]

Indians lament this way on partition every day but we dont give them two hoots..your sensitivity to this is itself an issue. There was no need for an explanation as nothing explicit was said..Azeris live on both sides of the border and its in the interest of thergional peace that there is harmony among them regardless of their nationalities or allegiances.
i just want to comment on that last map.
There was also a time when we ruled Persia from Lahore regardless how short lived it was. but we dont talk about it becuase it doesnt matter in todays world.Some Iranian folks here should stop using history to justify themselves as a leader of the iranic world.Using your own logic Iran has no right to remind a country like tajikistan ,afghanistan,pakistan or iraq of their glorius cyrus rule . .It doesnt help..It started the day you took the name 'Iran' instead of persia..
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Ghaznavids were Persianized Turkic who originated from Turkic slaves of Persian Samanids ?not North Indic like what Pakistanis are. LOL at "WE". You are a pakistani with baseline North Indic genes with almost zero connection to Turko-Iranic cline to your west.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghaznavids

Look at Pakistani genes and then look at Turkish and Iranic genes. I cant believe you claimed such BS without thinking twice.

I am descendent from the indo aryans who migrated to the indus valley civilization. nothing to do with Iran

Indus Valley was created by Iranic neolthic farmers. IVC was a product of Iranic neolithic farmers who somehow mixed with local Indic women. Martial most groups of your country have highest Iranian input.

And you should also be thankful to us Irano-Turkics to bring you your non indic part of your genes and Islam. I do not know why Pakistani try to act hostile towards Irano Turkic nations like Iran, Afghanistan, Tajiksitan, Azerbaijan etc. Its like who brought you your drift towards Caucasian genes and brought you Islam as well became your enemy ? Who would spit at graves of their own ancestors like this ?

Mostly here either fan boys, haters or regime mouthpieces. This poem was actually a veiled warning to iran. If we look at the bigger picture, Turkey have mostly been supportive of iran, helped iran in sanctions with barter trade. Its the iranian mullah mentality that even pushed Turkey away. First due to the mullah expansionist mentality in syria, secondly iranian support for armenia and kurds. So if mullah keeps hatching evil plans, they can have their plate full. Already the azeris in iran have realized the mullah regime will support christians over azeris.

Here I am ... An Azeri kazalbas Turk of my land. Us Azeri Turks have been cutting heads of enemies of Iran for the last 1000 years ever since we Oghuz entered Khorasan. We Azeri Turks are the swords of Iran be it Uzun Hassan (Ghavanloo Turk), Shah Ismail (Saffavid), Nader Shah (Afshar Turk), Mohammad Khan Qajar (Qajar) or ... Ayatullah Khamanei (Bayat Turk) ... Present day Iranian Turks are more Pure Turks than Assimilated greco Armenians to our west who call themselves Turks. you will never understand whats happening in Central Asian and Caucasus. We Azeris just freed khanate of astrakhan, treaty of Golestan is next. LOL at irrelevant people with no knowledge of history and politics of our region predicting BS. 95% Shia Azeris of republic siding with sunni Turkey ROFL.

LOL

BS. you Persians didnt even existed when IVC ruling this region and beyond. IVC is much older then the babylonian and Egyptians, you Persians are not even in the picture. You are not even classed as civilisation and there are only three recognized ancient civilisation, IVC, Babylon and Nile. That's about it.

Your IVC was created by Iranic neolithic farmers Iran_N. Later on Aryans themselves carried massive CHG/Iran_N because they entered your Indic basin from Iranic plateau.

(Direct quotations in Bold, my explanations are in Italics)

read this published paper.

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ajhg.2018.10.022

Eurasian genetic contributions in South Asia derive from Neolithic Iranians and early Bronze Age steppe populations.36, 37

Author says that DNA wise eurasian component in South Asians came from Iran_N

A previous ancient-DNA study has suggested that the Iran_N and Steppe_EMBA groups are the best proxies for the ancient West Eurasian component in South Asians. The study also suggested that most South Asians can be modeled as a mixture of these two groups but also have Onge- and Han-related ancestries,37

In fact, we found that the model with Iran_N, Steppe_EMBA, and Onge works equally well for all modern and ancient South Asians.

Iran_N is the major contributor to the South Asian cline. Look at the green component. Also the Steppe MLBA itself is like upto 40 % Iran_N itself. so technically thats like average you is more than 50 % Iran_N thanks to Indus valley IVC (Iran_N) and Aryan migration (Tajik Persians).

The higher affinity and admixture of PNWI (Pakistan North West Indian) populations with Neolithic Iranians and Anatolians (Figures S6C, S7B, and S8B and Tables S9 and S10), coupled with the substantial Middle Eastern component (dark blue, Figure 1B) and the significant influx of the Middle-East-related male lineage J2-M172 (Table S4) into the Indian sub-continent through the Northwest corridor,94 might agree with earlier archaeological work that took place at Mehargarh and that suggested the plausible influence from the Zagros or Levant region on the first evident settled way of life in South Asia.

Mehragarh was created by Iran_N farmers who migrated from Zagros mountains (Persian, Lur, Kurd stronghold).

IVC haplogroups (passed on from father to son) are characteristic Iranic.

Among extant populations, both the Kalash and Ror groups stand out because they have the highest proportions of the ANI component, which can be modeled as a mixture of Iranian Neolithic and either Early-Middle (in case of the Kalash) or Middle-Late (in case of the Ror) Bronze Age Steppe ancestries.

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Persian is an aryan identity that came much later like Turkic genes in Iran. Persians, Kurds, Azeris, Lurs, Pashtuns, Turkish etc are all connected by strong Iran_N genetics.

 

[Uguduwa]

LOL

BS. you Persians didnt even existed when IVC ruling this region and beyond. IVC is much older then the babylonian and Egyptians, you Persians are not even in the picture. You are not even classed as civilisation and there are only three recognized ancient civilisation, IVC, Babylon and Nile. That's about it.

Pakistan has no legitimate claim to IVC even if there are genetic similarities. IVC is a lost civilisation while Pakistan is a product of thr British empire. Pakistan had no continous civilisation.

 

[El Sidd]

Well, Erdogan's comments were not helpful. Instead saying such things he should publicly back Iran against Israel.

Iran keeps trading proxies with Israel though. Only zombies believe in some Iran Israel dispute.

 

[Dariush the Great]

Ghaznavids were Persianized Turkic who originated from Turkic slaves of Persian Samanids ?not North Indic like what Pakistanis are. LOL at "WE". You are a pakistani with baseline North Indic genes with almost zero connection to Turko-Iranic cline to your west.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghaznavids

Look at Pakistani genes and then look at Turkish and Iranic genes. I cant believe you claimed such BS without thinking twice.

Indus Valley was created by Iranic neolthic farmers. IVC was a product of Iranic neolithic farmers who somehow mixed with local Indic women. Martial most groups of your country have highest Iranian input.

And you should also be thankful to us Irano-Turkics to bring you your non indic part of your genes and Islam. I do not know why Pakistani try to act hostile towards Irano Turkic nations like Iran, Afghanistan, Tajiksitan, Azerbaijan etc. Its like who brought you your drift towards Caucasian genes and brought you Islam as well became your enemy ? Who would spit at graves of their own ancestors like this ?

Here I am ... An Azeri kazalbas Turk of my land. Us Azeri Turks have been cutting heads of enemies of Iran for the last 1000 years ever since we Oghuz entered Khorasan. We Azeri Turks are the swords of Iran be it Uzun Hassan (Ghavanloo Turk), Shah Ismail (Saffavid), Nader Shah (Afshar Turk), Mohammad Khan Qajar (Qajar) or ... Ayatullah Khamanei (Bayat Turk) ... Present day Iranian Turks are more Pure Turks than Assimilated greco Armenians to our west who call themselves Turks. you will never understand whats happening in Central Asian and Caucasus. We Azeris just freed khanate of astrakhan, treaty of Golestan is next. LOL at irrelevant people with no knowledge of history and politics of our region predicting BS. 95% Shia Azeris of republic siding with sunni Turkey ROFL.




Your IVC was created by Iranic neolithic farmers Iran_N. Later on Aryans themselves carried massive CHG/Iran_N because they entered your Indic basin from Iranic plateau.

(Direct quotations in Bold, my explanations are in Italics)

read this published paper.

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ajhg.2018.10.022

Eurasian genetic contributions in South Asia derive from Neolithic Iranians and early Bronze Age steppe populations.36, 37

Author says that DNA wise eurasian component in South Asians came from Iran_N

A previous ancient-DNA study has suggested that the Iran_N and Steppe_EMBA groups are the best proxies for the ancient West Eurasian component in South Asians. The study also suggested that most South Asians can be modeled as a mixture of these two groups but also have Onge- and Han-related ancestries,37

In fact, we found that the model with Iran_N, Steppe_EMBA, and Onge works equally well for all modern and ancient South Asians.

Iran_N is the major contributor to the South Asian cline. Look at the green component. Also the Steppe MLBA itself is like upto 40 % Iran_N itself. so technically thats like average you is more than 50 % Iran_N thanks to Indus valley IVC (Iran_N) and Aryan migration (Tajik Persians).

The higher affinity and admixture of PNWI (Pakistan North West Indian) populations with Neolithic Iranians and Anatolians (Figures S6C, S7B, and S8B and Tables S9 and S10), coupled with the substantial Middle Eastern component (dark blue, Figure 1B) and the significant influx of the Middle-East-related male lineage J2-M172 (Table S4) into the Indian sub-continent through the Northwest corridor,94 might agree with earlier archaeological work that took place at Mehargarh and that suggested the plausible influence from the Zagros or Levant region on the first evident settled way of life in South Asia.

Mehragarh was created by Iran_N farmers who migrated from Zagros mountains (Persian, Lur, Kurd stronghold).

IVC haplogroups (passed on from father to son) are characteristic Iranic.

Among extant populations, both the Kalash and Ror groups stand out because they have the highest proportions of the ANI component, which can be modeled as a mixture of Iranian Neolithic and either Early-Middle (in case of the Kalash) or Middle-Late (in case of the Ror) Bronze Age Steppe ancestries.

........


Persian is an aryan identity that came much later like Turkic genes in Iran. Persians, Kurds, Azeris, Lurs, Pashtuns, Turkish etc are all connected by strong Iran_N genetics.

Well, people can claim and feel whoever they want to be. But when you have names such as Kamran,Salar etc you can't deny having Iranian roots (meaning your roots started with Iranianism). Anyway, not that i really care. Previously our neighbours were the Roman and Greek empire. Nowadays we have Pakistan,Afghanistan,Iraq etc (alot of -stans btw.. which is a persian term for province... provinces of iran before..)

May god damn the British and Russian empires for creating all these artificial states that is causing so much trouble nowadays.

 

[El Sidd]

Well, people can claim and feel whoever they want to be. But when you have names such as Kamran,Salar etc you can't deny having Iranian roots (meaning your roots started with Iranianism). Anyway, not that i really care. Previously our neighbours were the Roman and Greek empire. Nowadays we have Pakistan,Afghanistan,Iraq etc (alot of -stans btw.. which is a persian term for province... provinces of iran before..)

May god damn the British and Russian empires for creating all these artificial states that is causing so much trouble nowadays.

Do you think your arrogance would lead you to yet another fall?

From Yemen to Syria, the destruction brought forward by Iran has my deepest respects but Iran should do more to bring about world war 3.

 

[Dariush the Great]

Do you think your arrogance would lead you to yet another fall?

From Yemen to Syria, the destruction brought forward by Iran has my deepest respects but Iran should do more to bring about world war 3.

Answer these questions honestly.

1. Who is bombing Yemen every day ?
2. Who invaded Iraq ?
3. Who started the war in Syria ?

 

[Arian]

Do you think your arrogance would lead you to yet another fall?

From Yemen to Syria, the destruction brought forward by Iran has my deepest respects but Iran should do more to bring about world war 3.

On a serious note, the British did leave a very destructive impact on the Middle East.

 

[El Sidd]

Answer these questions honestly.

1. Who is bombing Yemen every day ?
2. Who invaded Iraq ?
3. Who started the war in Syria ?

Yemen was made into a security problem plunging the MENA regions chance at connectivity and trade.

Iraq and Afghanistan was invaded by America with the help of Iranian proxies.

Syria is no exception either.

The only reason you get away calling Pakistan a province or its populace N word Iranic is that Pakistan is a very weak country and susceptible to Persian onslaught. From the Shah to the Mullah, Pakistan gets asked repeatedly to not develop Balochistan otherwise Persian insecurities come into play.

On a serious note, the British did leave a very destructive impact on the Middle East.

The Shirazi beneficial owners of British presence in Middle East do not mind how they left it.