Iran successfully produces a new generation of the Tomcat F-14

[LeGenD]

In other words, war games doesnt mean anything to you if US loses? Since none of these planes were in the relevant war conditions, there is no other means to base our opinion on, only war games and specs on paper. If you think US is superior at anything and everything, regardless what spec and war tests show, then pick the flag

No! My point is that we do not know much about the 'ground realities' of these exercises; why US fighter jets performed poorly or whatever. Only insiders know the truth and they won't reveal a thing or two unless necessary.

Remember the botched USAF exercise against IAF in 2005 (Cope India 2005) whose aim was to get funding for induction of F-22s?

This is why I am trying to caution you on the matters related to exercises. Any military exercise has a purpose and sometimes handicaps are deliberately introduced for evaluation purposes.

and? Iran knows better about US capabilities than you or me, and while Iran's budget is vastly smaller, it also have the benefit of the very specific focus.

Yes. The same could be said about Iraq. It knew better about US capabilities than you or me.

Please do not kid yourself.

US main focus is military dominance over poor countries, as well as preparation to face-off Russia and China. Iran over the past few decades were specifically working to face US, no one else. That erases US superiority to some extent, much like vastly superior Israel couldnt defeat few thousand of Iran armed and trained Hezbollah fighters.

I have acknowledged that Iran is improving its asymmetric warfare capabilities with passage of time because sanctions prevent Iran from acquiring latest weapons. However, Iranians think that what they have is enough. This is wrong perception. You think that all those modern gadgets of US are worthless or they are designed to counter any kind of threat? Ponder over this.

When you talk about taking on US; you really up the game. Also, please stop using Israel-Hezbollah example here. Israel is situated right next to Lebanon and Hezbollah could fire large number of rockets in to Israel to disrupt civilian life there. This is not the case with USA.

I am not saying that Iran will be walk in the park. It won't be. But you need to understand that US prefers to fight on its own terms. And Iran cannot afford to go toe-to-toe with it on military front. In addition, Vietnam like scenarios are also no longer possible; US war-machine is considerably different and better since the days of Vietnam.

Your claims about me have no grounds to any reality I never said or alleged anything like that, nor I am Iranian.

If military history haven't taught you anything; nothing will.

 

[LeGenD]

Denial mode yourself,
You really personify denial and brain washed mind controlled and directed thoughts personality.
Why don't you say that the American soldiers in the video were actors from Hollywood, it will fit your thought's pattern very well.

You specialise in rebuttals that have nothing to do with reality, you have a one sided view and will stand by it, even it is based on lies or deceptions.
Any proven fact contradicting US claims is not possible in your (blind) eyes , only what you think about the US is real in your little opinion.

My friend, you need some serious education in warfare.

Fact is that Iraq lost against USA; Iraq failed to prevent invasion; Saddam Hussein and his sons were taken out; Baath Party lost power; Iraqi resistance lost momentum after 4 years of struggle; and US prevented breakup of Iraq by implementing democracy.

In the end, US left Iraq due to Obama's mandate. People should remember that no country is personal property of any other country. But US have re-written Iraqi history; Saddam and his sons are gone. Their is no one who would get free ticket to step in the shoes of Saddam now and treat Iraq like his personal property. This is BIG thing. Yes! This conflict was hard-fought. US suffered noticeable losses but these losses pale in comparison to what US have suffered during COLD WAR as an example.

And yet I am being delusional? Sorry.

As an example to destroy all your rebuttals, we'll take the official military declaration of a prominent Chinese general to defend Iran even if it leads to WW3.(I have posted the link to you in many different threads, but your stubbornness shows your thoughts limitations and closed mindedness with most members of the forum who interact with you).

Oh! So China will be willing to put at stake all its accomplishments for the sake of another 3rd world country?

That can be the general's personal opinion. Does China have official policy of protecting Iran?

Iran CAN easily defeat the US. Iran is high-tech today, militarily speaking.
Iraqi resistance defeated the US might.
Afghan resistance defeated the US and many more examples are available to the enquiring mind.
This is due to a basic contradiction inside the American mind, The USA was not founded on imperialistic aims, to the contrary, it was for popular justice and even fought British imperialism in its conception.
And Now The US is fighting other people's (mostly the worldwide Zionism) wars it was not made to fight.
Hence the US can never win an imperialistic war.

"Iran CAN easily defeat the US"

Right! Whatever makes you happy. Earth is FLAT as well.

And if Afghanistan is your benchmark for victory; good luck. Please advice Ahmadinejad to hire Taliban to protect Iran because it has proven itself in combat through killing lot of civilians with suicide attacks thus far.

 

[Gaara]

Iran CAN easily defeat the US. Iran is high-tech today, militarily speaking.
Iraqi resistance defeated the US might.
Afghan resistance defeated the US and many more examples are available to the enquiring mind.

Let me put it this way: US is so powefull that it can take down Russia in just three months in a conventional war. They would never know where the missiles came from. And yet you speak Iran's possible victory against US. Forgive me if I don't buy it.

Iran will never be able to stand more than a week if US decides to attack.

 

[ihealugo]

Let me put it this way: US is so powefull that it can take down Russia in just three months in a conventional war. They would never know where the missiles came from. And yet you speak Iran's possible victory against US. Forgive me if I don't buy it.

Iran will never be able to stand more than a week if US decides to attack.

US just demand on air support and when you take it away , nothing will remain for US , now tell me how US can defeat russia ?!

S300PMU2 - S400 and in near future S500 will just grab the US air force to the hell !

and in land war russia are much more powerful because in case of cannons , rockets and howitze they can destroy kilometers in minutes .......................

just see their fihgts ................................ noone can defeat russia in his soil ...........

 

[Wright]

US just demand on air support and when you take it away , nothing will remain for US , now tell me how US can defeat russia ?!

S300PMU2 - S400 and in near future S500 will just grab the US air force to the hell !

and in land war russia are much more powerful because in case of cannons , rockets and howitze they can destroy kilometers in minutes .......................

just see their fihgts ................................ noone can defeat russia in his soil ...........

Russia has been invaded many times. Same cannot be said for the US.

 

[kollang]

Russia has been invaded many times. Same cannot be said for the US.

man,everyday your post becomes more bullshit.its can be more stupid...

 

[Wright]

man,everyday your post becomes more bullshit.its can be more stupid...

I was pointing out the US is a greater logistical challenge historically than Russia. Feel free to refute.

 

[Takaavar]

Russia has been invaded many times. Same cannot be said for the US.

It seems you are very interested in history, eh? So according to you modern-day Mongolia should be considered a superpower lol

 

[Wright]

It seems you are very interested in history, eh? So according to you modern-day Mongolia should be considered a superpower lol

No. The context was that Russia's greatest asset was its terrain and location. in my personal opinion the US has a greater advantage in locational terms.

Right! Whatever makes you happy. Earth is FLAT as well.

And if Afghanistan is your benchmark for victory; good luck. Please advice Ahmadinejad to hire Taliban to protect Iran because it has proven itself in combat through killing lot of civilians with suicide attacks thus far.

Sometimes the very basic rules of war are lost on this forum.

Rule 1: Better equipped, trained and funded armies have a better chance of winning wars.

 

[LeGenD]

US just demand on air support and when you take it away , nothing will remain for US , now tell me how US can defeat russia ?!

S300PMU2 - S400 and in near future S500 will just grab the US air force to the hell !

and in land war russia are much more powerful because in case of cannons , rockets and howitze they can destroy kilometers in minutes .......................

just see their fihgts ................................ noone can defeat russia in his soil ...........

Experts will disagree with you on this.

According to experts, both China and USA are conventionally much stronger then Russia.

Those S300 and S400 can also be taken care of with long range cruise missiles. No big deal.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Experts will disagree with you on this.

According to experts, both China and USA are conventionally much stronger then Russia.

Those S300 and S400 can also be taken care of with long range cruise missiles. No big deal.

F35 and F22 are designed to defeat these SAM's. You can't shoot at a target which you cannot see

 

[SOHEIL]

Let me put it this way: US is so powefull that it can take down Russia in just three months in a conventional war. They would never know where the missiles came from. And yet you speak Iran's possible victory against US. Forgive me if I don't buy it.

Iran will never be able to stand more than a week if US decides to attack.

decides !!??

no balls

 

[mehmeTcc]

Does Iran have any ALCM's?

 

[Gold Eagle]

Does Iran have any ALCM's?

If you mean Air Launched Cruise Missiles; yes recently Iran has produced Meshkat medium range cruise missile and before that Iran has produced Qaem anti-ship cruise missile which can be carried by F-4s and Su-24s and probably by Mirage F1s

 

[kollang]

hi bro,welcome to PDF.