Iran starts mass production of new Valfajr Torpedo

[forcetrip]

Very interesting something different. The explosion was powerful but if they put a action music on the footage it would be better.

There was secondary explosion from within the dummy ship. Someone else can give you details with more experience in that particular field.

 

[Serpentine]

There was secondary explosion from within the dummy ship. Someone else can give you details with more experience in that particular field.

Maybe the dummy ship was supposed to have a fuel tank (for a proper simulation), so the secondary explosion can be because of that.

 

[forcetrip]

Maybe the dummy ship was supposed to have a fuel tank (for a proper simulation), so the secondary explosion can be because of that.

Would you suggest fuel to be put in a dummy ship about to be blown up on camera? I do not see any technical advantages of having a secondary explosion if warhead details are required. Again I do not have information if other navies do it when they test weapons, in other words I have not seen them do it.

 

[Serpentine]

Would you suggest fuel to be put in a dummy ship about to be blown up on camera? I do not see any technical advantages of having a secondary explosion if warhead details are required. Again I do not have information if other navies do it when they test weapons, in other words I have not seen them do it.

Honestly, I'm not an expert either, it was just an assumption. Maybe to evaluate missile explosion impact, penetration and its ability to also blow up the ship fuel source? I'm not sure.

 

[Commandant]

Amazing stuff . I wonder which one of our babies can fire this ? @Commandant

Nice torpedo
It can be launched by a big variety of our vessels.

It can be launched from all of our attack submarines, and our surface vessels equipped with torpedo tube, such as Jamaran class frigates.
In some cases launchers need some modifications (as it is a 534 mm torpedo and vessels like Jamaran are equipped with 324 mm tubes), but it can easily be done.

This torpedo is mostly meant for Ghadir-class submarines. It really boosts their offensive abilities
Just note that we have more than 20 Ghadirs

Imagine our kilo-class subs, equipped with more than 20 of these babies, and the ability of launching 6 of them, simultaneously

There was secondary explosion from within the dummy ship. Someone else can give you details with more experience in that particular field.

there is no secondary explosion.
the white cloud is just the water splashed into the air!

 

[SOHEIL]

There was secondary explosion from within the dummy ship. Someone else can give you details with more experience in that particular field.

For your information :

2 stage warhead >>> 1- penetration 2- destruction

 

[Hack-Hook]

For your information :

2 stage warhead >>> 1- penetration 2- destruction

I believe its better for the torpedo explode outside the ship and created a vacume under ship that break the ship in two .not penetrate inside and explode there after all the main target of torpedoes are not military ships but civilian and cargo ship with little explosive inside and don't forget ships use fuels that while are prone to fire are not that explosive.

 

[kollang]

Hey guys.I am not familiar with naval combats.what are the countermeasures against torpedos?can this one penetrate the military ships?

 

[Azeri440]

Hey guys.I am not familiar with naval combats.what are the countermeasures against torpedos?can this one penetrate the military ships?

should give a good explanation

 

[kollang]

should give a good explanation

I have no access to youtube right now.would you please give a summary of that explanation?

 

[Azeri440]

I have no access to youtube right now.would you please give a summary of that explanation?

the video already has a summary in description , so I will just paste it here

Developed to counter advanced torpedoes, CONTRALTO®-V is based on the confusion/dilution concept. Designed to be integrated within any surface ship, for brand new platforms or during modernisation programs, it includes the reaction system, launching devices and CANTO®-V effectors.

CANTO®-V is immediately effective when deployed reducing the reaction time when the threat is detected at very short distance. The cloud of dozen constantly renewed false acoustic targets created by CANTO®-V effectors disturbs the torpedo in few seconds. The torpedo wastes its energy attacking false targets. Meanwhile, the evasive manoeuvre allows the vessel to leave the area totally safe.

Different Navies use different systems to counter torpedoes, most common counter in USN for example is AN/SLQ-25
rather than being launched it's towed by a vessel in high-threat areas

 

[mohsen]

the video already has a summary in description , so I will just paste it here

Developed to counter advanced torpedoes, CONTRALTO®-V is based on the confusion/dilution concept. Designed to be integrated within any surface ship, for brand new platforms or during modernisation programs, it includes the reaction system, launching devices and CANTO®-V effectors.

CANTO®-V is immediately effective when deployed reducing the reaction time when the threat is detected at very short distance. The cloud of dozen constantly renewed false acoustic targets created by CANTO®-V effectors disturbs the torpedo in few seconds. The torpedo wastes its energy attacking false targets. Meanwhile, the evasive manoeuvre allows the vessel to leave the area totally safe.

Different Navies use different systems to counter torpedoes, most common counter in USN for example is AN/SLQ-25
rather than being launched it's towed by a vessel in high-threat areas

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one of properties which they mentioned about our new torpedo is being smart and its anti deception capability.

 

[-SINAN-]

Hey guys.I am not familiar with naval combats.what are the countermeasures against torpedos?can this one penetrate the military ships?

From my knowledge from Turkish systems there soft-kill and hard-kill systems.

Aselsan ZOKA (soft-kill)

ASELSAN ZOKATM , intelligently operated decoys, creates deception and confusion on torpedoes as well as noise barrier to provide critical time for defender to perform tactical evasive manoeuvring.

By the state of the art signal processing and jamming techniques along with the situational awareness algorithm, ASELSAN ZOKATM can automatically re-program its manoeuvre after launched.

ASELSAN ZOKATM Capabilities

Programmable

• Tactical awareness
• Monitoring torpedo behaviour
• Selection of most available preset tactics
• Programming before launch

Target Emulation

• Emitting target signature
• Imitating target motion
• Transmitting active sonar signals after receipt and processing

Noise Barrier

• Sufficient power to block torpedo reception
• Narrow and/or wideband jamming
• Programmable jamming schedule
• Noise barrier positioning according to the jammer motion target designator

Aselsan TORK (hard kill)
This one is a new system, we don't know much about. It has been revealed in IDEF-2015.Tork is basically a torpedo hunting torpedo.

As far as i know, Germany and US is studying these systems also...

 

[kollang]

From my knowledge from Turkish systems there soft-kill and hard-kill systems.

Aselsan ZOKA (soft-kill)

ASELSAN ZOKATM , intelligently operated decoys, creates deception and confusion on torpedoes as well as noise barrier to provide critical time for defender to perform tactical evasive manoeuvring.

By the state of the art signal processing and jamming techniques along with the situational awareness algorithm, ASELSAN ZOKATM can automatically re-program its manoeuvre after launched.

ASELSAN ZOKATM Capabilities

Programmable

• Tactical awareness
• Monitoring torpedo behaviour
• Selection of most available preset tactics
• Programming before launch

Target Emulation

• Emitting target signature
• Imitating target motion
• Transmitting active sonar signals after receipt and processing

Noise Barrier

• Sufficient power to block torpedo reception
• Narrow and/or wideband jamming
• Programmable jamming schedule
• Noise barrier positioning according to the jammer motion target designator

Aselsan TORK (hard kill)
This one is a new system, we don't know much about. It has been revealed in IDEF-2015.Tork is basically a torpedo hunting torpedo.

As far as i know, Germany and US is studying these systems also...

Yeah I see
Against a countermeasure system there is always a counter countermeasure system.the question is which one is stronger on this occasion.

IRGC commander has said this torpedo has anti deception capability.and we can launch at least two torpedoes from Ghadir midjet submarine at the same time.

 

[-SINAN-]

Yeah I see
Against a countermeasure system there is always a counter countermeasure system.the question is which one is stronger on this occasion.

IRGC commander has said this torpedo has anti deception capability.and we can launch at least two torpedoes from Ghadir midjet submarine at the same time.

That thing we can't know until the 2 system comes head to head in a real combat situation.