Iran Starts Mass Production of Home-Made Fighter Jet (Saeqeh)

[Azeri440]

Which ones are outdated? Do you have a clue about the difference internally? Here is the shalamche guidance system for example:

Compare it to the seeker of the original hawk:

The Iranian s-200 has been modernised to such an extend that the Russian were shocked when they seen it during a visit a few years back.

Ra'ad has been around for a few years now, same with sayyad-2. How do you know about the numbers? We don't know these things.



Going by the Russian history, this system they sold to you will be considerably downgraded if anything.
They did the same thing with tor m-1s the sold to Iran but Iran cracked the software an revered it.

PMU is an export version already and yes less capable than S-400 which is obvious
but better than any other S-300 system out there which is all we need
as to air defence systems

Hawks were in service in 60s , you might say we can upgrade them but there is a limit on what you can do
to a 5 decade old system

S-200 , do you have any reliable source for that?
I just simply don't believe Russians were "shocked"

 

[Arminkh]

Hawks were in service in 60s , you might say we can upgrade them but there is a limit on what you can do
to a 5 decade old system

Iran is not renewing its old inventory. There is none. It is building the missile from scratch so if it looks like a missile from 60s doesn't mean it guidance, propulsion and controls are the same.

 

[The Last of us]

PMU is an export version already and yes less capable than S-400 which is obvious
but better than any other S-300 system out there which is all we need
as to air defence systems

Hawks were in service in 60s , you might say we can upgrade them but there is a limit on what you can do
to a 5 decade old system

S-200 , do you have any reliable source for that?
I just simply don't believe Russians were "shocked"

What's 5 decades old? . We are talking about only the exterior being similar.
Everything else is completely different. I mean everything including solid fuel propellent etc.
It's like claiming F-16 used by the US today are same in technology to those made originally.

They said the Russians were stunned. Here is a link:


Commander: Russians Stunned by Iranian Version of S-200 Air Defense System

 

[Mosamania]

Oh I know the plan here, try to waste the enemy's Air-Air missile inventory as much as possible right? Very clever.

 

[The Last of us]

Oh I know the plan here, try to waste the enemy's Air-Air missile inventory as much as possible right? Very clever.

No, the plan is step by step developing an fighter jet production and experience base which eventually and inevitably will lead to highly capable indigenous designs. This is not something your kind understands. Even getting on and off your camel is a task which you pay an outsider to help you accomplish

 

[Mosamania]

No, the plan is step by step developing an fighter jet production and experience base which eventually and inevitably will lead to highly capable indigenous designs. This is not something your kind understands. Even getting on and off your camel is a task which you pay an outsider to help you accomplish

I get in and out of my camel just fine, but you don't "Mass Produce" an experimental fighter. Anyways good luck in your efforts, seeing your uptodate military capabilities really does warm my heart and bring a smile to my face.

 

[The Last of us]

I get in and out of my camel just fine, but you don't "Mass Produce" an experimental fighter. Anyways good luck in your efforts, seeing your uptodate military capabilities really does warm my heart and bring a smile to my face.

I said getting on and off not getting 'in and out', I hope you lot have not starting getting in and out your camels as well (if you catch my drift).

It served its purpose for experiments/experience and now has been elevated to a position where it will be mass produced, albeit in low numbers.
As for Iranian military capability, I am happy they put a smile on your face, let's hope it does not do anything else to you and your kind in the future.

 

[Mosamania]

I said getting on and off not getting 'in and out', I hope you lot have not starting getting in and out your camels as well (if you catch my drift).

It served its purpose for experiments/experience and now has been elevated to a position where it will be mass produced, albeit in low numbers.
As for Iranian military capability, I am happy they put a smile on your face, let's hope it does not do anything else to and your kind in the future.

Sure buddy whatever you say. Now go have fun with mass produced Saeqah, and when the F-5 inventory has disappeared suddenly from your Air Force or the news of their retirement comes soon when the "Mass production" finishes, come and have fun again.

 

[Viper0011.]

Considering its capabilities, military experts call Saeqeh similar to Fighter F-18 .

Fire Control Radar is type of Phazotron-NIIR N019 and N019 Radar made by Phazotron, known as Baaz, is able in TWS situation recognizes 10 aerial targets from 80 kilometers and fire two targets simultaneously..

Similar to -18? of misinformation. An F-5 variant (50 years old tech) is being considered equal to a late 90's tech and with AESA. Do the Iranians know what -18's AESA is capable of?

And this US copy of a 50 year old plane's Russian radar has a 50 Mile range with 2 target engaged capability and Pulse Doppler on top of that

 

[The Last of us]

Sure buddy whatever you say. Now go have fun with mass produced Saeqah, and when the F-5 inventory has disappeared suddenly from your Air Force or the news of their retirement comes soon when the "Mass production" finishes, come and have fun again.

Okay, go 'in' and 'out' of your camel now and be a good little boy and stop wasting our thread space.

Similar to -18? of misinformation. An F-5 variant (50 years old tech) is being considered equal to a late 90's tech and with AESA. Do the Iranians know what -18's AESA is capable of?

And this US copy of a 50 year old plane's Russian radar has a 50 Mile range with 2 target engaged capability and Pulse Doppler on top of that

Genius,

Only thing similar is the platform. It's like claiming the newest F-16 is same tech as the first ones made. Anyhow, I never heard any Iranian official compare saegeh to F-18. It was most certainly some sort of miss translation which endured on to this day.

Also, dude, sort out your damn grammar man. Are you sure you're from the US?

 

[Tomyris]

S-200 has a range of 200 to 350 km ???

 

[The Last of us]

S-200 has a range of 200 to 350 km ???

Yes and a speed of mach-8. Don't be surprised, It is a big missile.

 

[Tomyris]

Yes and a speed of mach-8. Don't be surprised, It is a big missile.

Mack 8? this is not possible, it would mean that we are more advanced than Russia and the US ..

we have how many S-200?

 

[The Last of us]

Mack 8? this is not possible, it would mean that we are more advanced than Russia and the US ..

we have how many S-200?

S-200 is not an Iranian system, it was originally made by Russia. However Iranian version has been completely modernised. Mach-8 is its top speed. It's very big and fast.

As for how many, Iran has at minimum 10 battalions. No one knows the actual number except Iran itself.

 

[Tomyris]

S-200 is not an Iranian system, it was originally made by Russia. However Iranian version has been completely modernised. Mach-8 is its top speed. It's very big and fast.

As for how many, Iran has at minimum 10 battalions. No one knows the actual number except Iran itself.

Mack is beaucoup..même 8 S-300/400 is not the same speed.

Minimum 10 battalions that's enough should now strengthen the air defense capability.

he will miss the most modern planes