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Iran Starts Mass Production of Home-Made Fighter Jet (Saeqeh)

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seen flying but not Qaher ^^
 
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@The Last of us @TurAr received infractions for flaming.

@The Last of us You better learn how to properly spell the name of Turkey and Turks, next time you'll get banned for being disrespectful to other countries' names.
Mate, acting is reacting.since these guys continue the name callings such as mullah boy and Farsis ,we reserve our right to do the same.
 
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You are not a part of public !?

no :p:


tell me just something that proves that our Qaher and a serious project ... all the insults iran world here in Europe we say it is nothing more than a model.

but if it's a secret project I respect, I would not say anything that could harm has my country,

but I hope that iran is progressing and build a good hunter

viva iran ♥♥
 
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As I stated, due to vast improvements in software,computing hardware, electronics etc Bavar 373 will be much modern. The only way I can really prove it to you is when they finally officially unveil it.Just think logically, when was s-300 pmu1/2 made? what were the computing technology back then compared to now? What about electronics? Sytems today can be made much more resistant to jamming for example.
Another thing you need to know is as soon as bavar is made it will be constantly upgraded periodically. For example the Russians kept on upgrading their s-300 until the s-400 was born!

Talash-3 was build by the khatam al anbia air defence.

Here is the ya ali cruise missile:

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They can fit it anywhere they want, submarine, ships, land etc. Its booster needs modifying though.



tork,

PMU-2 is a very modern system , and recently made incorporating some of the S-400 components

You obviously you don't alot about this matter so why do you make militaristic statements here and there?
Iran does not have anti ship ballistic missiles? Do you even bother to do a simple search about the matter before replying? How can one expect to have a proper discussion when you don't know the basic info about Iran?

Go research Khalije far/Persian gulf anti ship ballistic missile.

Stealth has nothing to do with the generation of the plane. You can have a 3rd gen plane more stealth than a 5th gen. Being 'stealth' is non nonsensical term has it's a simple matter of physics that you can detect any object using radar. To detect stealth targets like f-22 and B-2 spirit etc you just need radar with long enough wavelength. A radar like Iranian ghadir 1100 km radar and HF radar like fatah can easily detect any so called 'stealth' plane. Problem with high wavelength radars is although you can detect the targets like f-22 and B-2 they are not very accurate to guide missile to hit the target, for that you need a VHF/HF fire control radar which Iran posses called Alam al Hoda.

Anyway, you assumption is that Iran cannot detect the tomohawk missile coming from such far away ranges. This is your assumption which false, if Iran can detect targets like RQ-170 then be sure Iran has 0 problem detecting missile like tomahawk. As I said to you, only way Americans can really undergo an attack is use an EMP to disable Iranian radars.

As for your question about Iranian equivalence. Green pine radar is not an OTH radar like Ghadir and seperh.

not true

Iran has good radar coverage but lacks any ability to act on it
its air defenses are outdated and air force completely outdated

US with its massive air force and navy air fleet will have no problem completely annihilating strategic military locations
even deep inside Iran's territory , and there are also a massive US naval power
with some subs carrying over 100 tomahawks, which are yes relatively easy to detect
but what do you do about them? does Iran have any systems capable of intercepting cruise missiles?
let alone a massive number of them being fired at one time.
 
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not true

Iran has good radar coverage but lacks any ability to act on it
its air defenses are outdated and air force completely outdated
:lol:

Instead of making a baseless statement like that, maybe attempt to educate yourself first.
I gave a list of long range missile currently possessed by Iran in this very thread, in your mind those are 'outdated'?

Let me know how the Sayyad-2,3 and Ra'ad system are outdated. These are ones that are ready right now, and there are other which are soon to be completed.
 
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PMU-2 is a very modern system , and recently made incorporating some of the S-400 components



not true

Iran has good radar coverage but lacks any ability to act on it
its air defenses are outdated and air force completely outdated

US with its massive air force and navy air fleet will have no problem completely annihilating strategic military locations
even deep inside Iran's territory , and there are also a massive US naval power
with some subs carrying over 100 tomahawks, which are yes relatively easy to detect
but what do you do about them? does Iran have any systems capable of intercepting cruise missiles?
let alone a massive number of them being fired at one time.

There is a thread for the new B373 system that Iran is developing. I posted pictures of some of the new components a few days ago. Iran is replacing the S-200 missiles with a new missile called Sayad-3. The shalamche system can intercept cruise missiles same way it hits Krar which is simply a cruise missile turned into a drone. You can see it here:

Iran completes indigenous missile system Bavar-373
 
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PMU-2 is a very modern system , and recently made incorporating some of the S-400 components

What S-400 components are you referring to?
When Bavar-373 missile/radar picture was 'leaked' one could see a poster comparing s-300pmu2 to Bavar.
It was not possible to make any details due to low quality of picture taken but clearly, it would show how it is superior to the system as they claimed many times.
 
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:lol:

Instead of spouting a random baseless nonsense like that, maybe attempt to educate yourself first.
I gave a list of long range missile currently possessed by Iran in this very thread, in your mind those are 'outdated'?

Let me know how the Sayyad-2,3 and Ra'ad system are outdated. These are ones that are ready right now, and there are other which are soon to be completed.

perhaps make a better use of your brain and comprehend what I said a little better
most of the air defenses consist of outdated systems , yes those systems are decent but no in enough number right now to make any difference , yes future is possible but that is the future
who knows what will happen in the future.

What S-400 components are you referring to?
When Bavar-373 missile/radar picture was 'leaked' one could see a poster comparing s-300pmu2 to Bavar.
It was not possible to make any details due to low quality of picture taken but clearly, it would show how it is superior to the system as they claimed many times.

at least the ones currently in service in Azerbaijan and China do

Almaz-Antey S-300PMU2 Favorit / SA-20 Gargoyle / СамоходныйЗенитный Ракетный Комплекс С-300ПМУ2 «Фаворит»

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perhaps make a better use of your brain and comprehend what I said a little better
most of the air defenses consist of outdated systems , yes those systems are decent but no in enough number right now to make any difference , yes future is possible but that is the future
who knows what will happen in the future.

Which ones are outdated? Do you have a clue about the difference internally? Here is the shalamche guidance system for example:
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Compare it to the seeker of the original hawk:

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The Iranian s-200 has been modernised to such an extend that the Russian were shocked when they seen it during a visit a few years back.

Ra'ad has been around for a few years now, same with sayyad-2. How do you know about the numbers? We don't know these things.

at least the ones currently in service in Azerbaijan and China do

Going by the Russian history, this system they sold to you will be considerably downgraded if anything.
They did the same thing with tor m-1s the sold to Iran but Iran cracked the software and revered it.
 
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