Iran says Pakistan allowing its territory to be used against Iran

[hembo]

Now, Iran tells Pak to stop using its soil for activities against it
Fri, Mar 20 12:20 PM

Islamabad, Mar.20 (ANI): Iran has accused Pakistan of allowing its soil to be used against it.

Addressing a press conference here, Iran's Ambassador to Pakistan Mashall-ah Shakeri asked Islamabad to curb the activities of Jund Ullah which is involved in carrying out anti-Iran activities from Pakistani soil.

"We have evidence about activities of this organisation against Iran. We want to resolve the issue amicably but at the same we have concern about activities of Jund Ullah against Iran," The Nation qouted Shakeri, as saying.

While commenting on the kidnapping of the Iranian envoy, he said it is the responsibility of Pakistan to assure the safety of its guest.

Shakeri also stressed on the need of increasing trade ties between both the countries.

"We want Pakistani business and traders to transport their products in different countries via Iran," he added.

Shakeri expressed hope that the long pending work of the Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) gas pipeline would resume soon, and all the three nations would work together in this context.

Commenting on the prolong cold-war between the US and Iran, he said: "Time has come that ice should melt between US and Iran, and it depends upon US." (ANI)

 

[godsavetheworld]

Well I guess they are now waiting for countires like Somalia to tell them this as well. Despite everything, nothing has been done to dismantle terror infrastructure in Pakistan. I think Mumbai was the threshhold. Another terror attack either in India or anywhere else in the world coming for Pakistan, would mean serious trouble for Pakistan.

 

[Bane Blade]

Not done enough eh?

Do you have any Idea of the number of soldiers that have lay down their lives just to fight terrorism or the fact that Pakistan has contributed most toward the war on terror with real soldiers not consulates. Today even America has decided to negotiate with Taleban Al Qaeda so as to stop their activities, just laying out blames without facts is not something one should do.

 

[ajpirzada]

as far as india pak issue is concerned.. both sides are involved in similar kind of activities.
for rest of the world, we have done enough and will not do more than wat we are doin at the moment.
with iran we shouldnt be gettin involved in any blame game. those terrorists are killin ppl in both the countries and both the countries want to get rid of them but may be in our own way. we are taking the route of Reconciliation while they wanna use force i suppose. we want to isolate them by not giving any reason to ppl for supporting them which to me is the rit way fwd. musharraf used force and it didnt work

 

[salman nedian]

Well I guess they are now waiting for countires like Somalia to tell them this as well. Despite everything, nothing has been done to dismantle terror infrastructure in Pakistan. I think Mumbai was the threshhold. Another terror attack either in India or anywhere else in the world coming for Pakistan, would mean serious trouble for Pakistan.

Solve the issues first which are the basis of tension. No need to tell you who has been supporting terrorism in Srilanka.

 

[Jihad]

Ehmm, Iran tells another nation to stop using it's soil agains them, hypocrisy no?
Where is a statement coming from a Pakistani official rejecting this claim?

 

[HAIDER]

Its indirect warning to India, who is backing insurgency in Balchistan. That causing delay in gas line. It is hurting both Iran and Pakistan. As always India backed off from this project for unknown reasons....

 

[RedBaron]

Its indirect warning to India, who is backing insurgency in Balchistan. That causing delay in gas line. It is hurting both Iran and Pakistan. As always India backed off from this project for unknown reasons....

The reasons for IPI delay are not unknown. They are a combination of factors:
- US pressure on GoI against signing such a major deal. They probably warned that nuclear deal would not go through if India moved fast on the IPI deal.
- When crude oil went to $147, Iran jacked up the gas prices which made the deal unattractive. These prices have now come back to earth.
- Mumbai attacks, recent instability in Pakistan, elections in India have prevented resumption of negotiations.

My personal opinion is if relations between US and Iran improve, US gov't will not object to India moving ahead with the pipeline. Also, after Indian elections, this may be expedited. The pipeline is a good deal for all three countries: India gets badly needed gas, Pakistan gets transit fees, Iran gets access to the huge Indian market. So it may take time, like all important matters in the subcontinent, but it will happen. The deal is definitely NOT dead.

 

[SurvivoR]

Iran Captures CIA Terrorists
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
December 9, 2008

The Tehran Times reports via Press TV:

Iran’s security forces say they have arrested some elements of a terrorist group in eastern Iran who had a hand in the execution of 15 police officers.

“”The Iranian intelligence and police forces have arrested some terrorists who were behind the killings of 15 Iranian police members,”" Kazem Jalali, a senior lawmaker told reporters on Monday.

The captured terrorists are to be brought to the justice in near future and their open hearing will be broadcast for the Iranian nation, he added.

Officials from Iran’s foreign and intelligence ministries met with senior Pakistani police authorities on Monday to discuss the ways to return to Iran the bodies of the killed officers.

According to the information and documents obtained by Pakistani government, some elements inside Pakistan are supporting Jundullah group, the Iranian MP noted.





Jundullah is a CIA spawned terror group and its operational base is located in Afghanistan. It conducts raids into the southeastern Iranian province of Sistan-Baluchestan. According to Brigadier General Mohammad, Jundullah receives “support from British and US forces in neighboring Afghanistan for its campaign of violence in Sistan-Baluchestan,” David Eshel wrote in the March 2007 Defense Update.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t

“A Pakistani tribal militant group responsible for a series of deadly guerrilla raids inside Iran has been secretly encouraged and advised by American officials since 2005, U.S. and Pakistani intelligence sources tell ABC News,” Brain Ross reported on April 3, 2007. “U.S. officials say the U.S. relationship with Jundullah is arranged so that the U.S. provides no funding to the group, which would require an official presidential order or ‘finding’ as well as congressional oversight.”

In other words, the murder and destabilization campaign against Iran is a U.S. sponsored covert operation.

“Some former CIA officers say the arrangement is reminiscent of how the U.S. government used proxy armies, funded by other countries including Saudi Arabia, to destabilize the government of Nicaragua in the 1980s.”ABC, of course, did not bother to mention that the CIA sponsored Contras were brutal terrorists who wantonly targeted civilians, attacked agriculture, destroyed Nicaragua’s fishing industry, and assassinated hundreds of Sandinista government officials. “They regularly destroyed health centers, schools, agricultural cooperatives, and community centers — symbols of the Sandinistas’ social programs in rural areas. People caught in these assaults were often tortured and killed in the most gruesome ways,” writes William Blum (Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions since World War II, Common Courage Press, 1995).

No doubt the CIA and its proxy Jundullah terrorists are committing likewise atrocities and crimes in Iran.

“Pakistani government sources say the secret campaign against Iran by Jundullah was on the agenda when Vice President Dick Cheney met with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in February,” Ross wrote. “A senior U.S. government official said groups such as Jundullah have been helpful in tracking al Qaeda figures and that it was appropriate for the U.S. to deal with such groups in that context.”

 

[Neo]

Well I guess they are now waiting for countires like Somalia to tell them this as well. Despite everything, nothing has been done to dismantle terror infrastructure in Pakistan. I think Mumbai was the threshhold. Another terror attack either in India or anywhere else in the world coming for Pakistan, would mean serious trouble for Pakistan.

Actually we're waiting for countries like Somalia to see what's your RAW and DIA are doing in Balochistan and how its affecting the region. I bet both are behind the activities of Jund Ullah.

 

[Omar1984]

The same terrorists who are causing problems for Iran are causing problems for Pakistan.

Both Iran and Pakistan have problems in their Baluchistan provinces, these terrorists are enemies of Pakistan as they are enemies of Iran so its impossible for Pakistan to be supporting these terrorists.

 

[Neo]

‘Pakistan won’t allow its soil to be used against Iran’ ​

Friday, March 20, 2009

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan says that it is determined that the soil of Pakistan will not be allowed to be used by the Jundullah, in any manner, to destabilise the Iranian government.

The spokesman at the foreign office was asked to comment on remarks by the Iranian ambassador to Pakistan, Mashaalah Shakeri, who on Thursday asked that Pakistan should not to allow Jundullah to use Pak soil.

He also asked the authorities to take steps for speedy recovery of kidnapped Iranian attache. Shakeri’s remarks came at a time when US ambassador Anne Patterson was in Balochistan to help in the release of a UN official, and also at a time when the US media is speculating drone attacks inside Balochistan.

“Pakistan’s policy is very clear as far as Jundullah is concerned. We will never allow the soil of Pakistan to be used to destabilise Iran. We know there is concern inside Iran and in this regard the visit of President Asif Zardari and Interior Adviser Rehman Malik to a great extent have allayed fears in Iran,” the spokesman added.

He said heads of the interior ministries of the two countries would be meeting every month to thrash out issues directly related on the Iran-Pakistan border and in this regard officials of the two ministries and those working with agencies at the Pak-Iran border would be meeting soon to prepare for the ministerial meetings.

Jundullah, according to reports in the American media, during the Bush administration was being funded by Washington. American television’s ABC News, in the past had run reports saying Jundullah, also known as “Army of God”, “Allah’s Soldiers”, and “God’s Brigade” as well as the Popular Iranian Resistance Movement — is a Sunni “Pakistani tribal militant group responsible for a series of deadly guerrilla raids inside Iran.

The group, which “has taken responsibility for the deaths and kidnappings of more than a dozen Iranian soldiers and officials”, “has been secretly encouraged and advised by American officials since 2005, US and Pak intelligence said.

These reports say the secret campaign against Iran by Jundullah was on the agenda when Vice-President Dick Cheney met with former president Pervez Musharraf in February. A senior US government official said groups such as Jundullah have been helpful in tracking al-Qaeda figures and that it was appropriate for the US to deal with such groups in that context.” Someone who has for the past two years being pointing out in her writings in The News, about the US support to Jundullah, is Dr Shireen Mazari, a defence analyst.

 

[wtf]

Not done enough eh?

Do you have any Idea of the number of soldiers that have lay down their lives just to fight terrorism or the fact that Pakistan has contributed most toward the war on terror with real soldiers not consulates. Today even America has decided to negotiate with Taleban Al Qaeda so as to stop their activities, just laying out blames without facts is not something one should do.

Sadly, In words of Gen. Patton :

"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."


Pakistan may right now be fighting the terrorists hard, but it did not do it until the terrorists turned against the State. And when they fight they don't decisively win. Overall it confuses the hell out of anyone who sees that terrorists can strike anywhere and go hide in Pakistan. I am sure the tide will turn as long as the people and the army speak with one voice against terror everywhere.

But I think it is also important to see this as a statement that respects the authority of Pak govt. There is no hot-pursuit or spy drones over Pak. They are at least not talking of strikes into Baluchistan like US is. That action indicates a lack of belief in sovereign authority of Pak govt.

Oh, BTW, US is not negotiating with Al Qaeda - there is talk about isolating the "bad Taleban" and supporting "good Taleban" modeled on the success in Iraq.

 

[hembo]

salman nedian
Solve the issues first which are the basis of tension. No need to tell you who has been supporting terrorism in Srilanka.

The blame game between Indians and Pakistanis has to be there in any and all topics. That, I guess, cannot be avoided for now and will continue to be there for years ahead.

Not done enough eh?

Do you have any Idea of the number of soldiers that have lay down their lives just to fight terrorism or the fact that Pakistan has contributed most toward the war on terror with real soldiers not consulates. Today even America has decided to negotiate with Taleban Al Qaeda so as to stop their activities, just laying out blames without facts is not something one should do.

You are right. No one can deny the sacrifices made by the Pak soldiers in the war on terrorism. However, the points here are to remember (my personal opinion entirely):

• One cannot be hypocritical when handling terrorism/ extremism by fighting it some where and supporting it somewhere else (no matter how divine the cause is). Even US has to realize this fast.
• India did that mistake back in 80s with LTTE and quickly realized the mistake. At least now, she has a zero tolerance for terrorism.
• GOP has to adopt similar approach when it comes to any kind of terrorism, i.e., COMPLETE INTOLERANCE for all armed conflict by non-military persons. If a Govt supports use of arms/ ammunition for any cause, let it be through their military, not through terrorist. Otherwise, it will always backfire.
• Most importantly, the entire world has to realize, sooner then later, that terrorism cannot be fought by killing few terrorists alone. That’s like removing leaves and branches from a tree but leaving behind the root. The tree with the root intact will grow back the leaves and branches in no time. The root has to be uprooted/ damaged if one wants to get rid of it completely. That can only be achieved by having zero tolerance and by removing the extreme thoughts (state of mind) from the common people.
• And yes, a process of dialog is not too bad either. It will, at least help both side to understand each other’s view points better. Also, if a terrorist organization agrees to start dialogs, it means that their extreme state of mind has mellowed down a bit, which is, in my book, is a positive sign.

 

[Awesome]

Well I guess they are now waiting for countires like Somalia to tell them this as well. Despite everything, nothing has been done to dismantle terror infrastructure in Pakistan. I think Mumbai was the threshhold. Another terror attack either in India or anywhere else in the world coming for Pakistan, would mean serious trouble for Pakistan.

Iran is fighting the same BLA that we're fighting. Each other's soils are used for activities against us our countries, regularly. Cooperation is needed to attack this terror group.