Iran-Pakistan fallout over Bahrain

[Bratva]

everybody knows there is not legitimate government in Bahrain anymore since majority of people are against them.contract with one family does not provide you right to kill people there.
this is humanity not money contract

Mr. Cyrus, Have you forgot the protests that happened in your country in near past which were crushed brutally? Height of Hypocrisy I must say. Ignoring one's own mis deeds and poking nose in some one affairs.


Since majority of people are against ahmedinajad and want moderate reforms in country, is that make your ahmedinajad government illegal?

Does your Security Services has right to kill or beat people when they are protesting only for reforms as tons of videos on you tube proved this fact?

 

[Bratva]

Ive never seen anything like this.
You guys say that your people are hungry and in need of a job so they go and become merceneries for other countries. You don't see anything wrong with this? At the very least think about your reputation. Go to some Iraqi and other Arab forums and see what they are saying about you guys. What happened to all that Halal stuff? Was that just talk?

The people of Bahrain, both shia and sunni are asking for freedom and your country men are shooting them in the streets for $$$.
Before you make this secterian, cuz I know you guys will. Watch these videos.

"shia and sunni brothers, we will never give up our country"
"our sunni brothers guarded us while we prayed in pearl square"

Mr.Abii, Can i show you some propaganda videos too? Which shows current Iranian regime Brutal? Have you forgot the Iranian women Killed by your Own Security Forces in the protest?

If same thing you can do in your own home? then if some one else wants to do same thing, then why creating so much noise over it?

 

[Mujeeb47]

Iran and Pakistan are good friends. Dont need to worry.

 

[Bratva]

Sorry for my Biased Approach, But the Iranian members have acted in a hypocritical manner.

Instead, they should have thought rationally, without bringing shia sunni matter. They Should have thought about the Protests happened in Iran in Near past and then compared that protests with Bahrain, But Nah, Pakistan is a condemned and a crusader Sunni state, who likes to beat Shia People, Giving that type of expression is what I strongly condemn,

 

[SAUD-404]

Pakistan and Iran should both stay out it. Bahrain is a free country !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[ali_raza]

i think pakistan have every right to send its secuirity forces to bahrain becose,,70,000 pakistani,s working in bahrain,,to protect them from ??????? funded mafias,they r harming the pakistanis,so as pakistan air force gone to kyrguzistan for help bahrain no exception(iff the matters gone out of control)..but we should not consprice about these matters becose both sides the blood is muslim...may allah save islam,

 

[EjazR]

Well one question is currently PAkistani army have claimed that with the tense border with India and the army streched out in FATA, there are no resources left to launch operations in N. Waziristan.

So the idea that Pakistan would be able to spare 2 divisions to go to Bahrain or Saudi Arabia seems like an impossibility. And if they do send it, then either they don't consider India a threat and were making it up or PA just listens to what SA and Bahrain says rather than protect its own security.

 

[pmukherjee]

Amazing indian twist, followed anti Pakistan coalition!

Some facts:

Govt. of Pakistan has never committed any army to Bahrain yet and their is a difference between retired and on-service official.

Now tell me who in the govt. can force any retired person to take up any sort of legal employment in Bahrain????

We must also know, as a fact that since Bahrain's inception, its police comprise of many Pakistani origin people.

Pakistan army also have historical defense relations with Bahrain, and no one shall intimidate us.

No some general facts:

As a fact due to small population and local life style gulf states have no choice but to hire foreign people when it deem necessary.
It include all nationalities.
Infact my advice to Bahrain govt. is to scrutinize the foreigners which have taken up residence in Bahrain since last two years.

When it comes to Pakistani army retired are in most seeked after great demand all due to their quality.

We shall also know the fact in all gulf states (specially Bahrian) there are more indians than Pakistanis! in Bahrain indians out number Pakistanis 100 to 10, and the Bahrain govt. as a general rule has to maintain the balance in ratio.

Last but not least, govt. of India have always conspired against Pakistani expats so this attempt is no exception.

Bahrain and Saudi Arabia are linked issues. The US and the west can't afford to see SA collapse as then they will lose a cornerstone of their foreign policy in the middle east. SA has always helped and supported Pakistan in its hour of need. All governments in Pakistan, even the military dictatorships have always followed a pro-Saudi approach. If now, the Saudis are calling in their debt, can the Pakistanis refuse?

The biggest beneficiaries of a Saudi collapse will be Iran, for it will mean lesser Sunni influence and Turkey, then they will be the undisputed leader of the Muslim world. Also the radical Islamics as SA has done a lot to keep Islamic radicals at bay and drove away the AQ and their affiliates..

Bahrain is the entry to Saudi Arabia. These things are infectious. If the protesters are not crushed in Bahrain, the uprising in SA will be strengthened. That is why SA carried out an armed intervention in
Bahrain.

It is not that Pakistan is an innocent bystander in this equation. Sending 2 divisions to SA and mercenaries to Bahrain shows Pakistani desire that the status quo is maintained.

 

[Gold1010]

Pakistan and Iran should both stay out it. Bahrain is a free country !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

shouldnt the gulf countrys with troops in there stay out of it aswell then:S?

 

[BATMAN]

shouldnt the gulf countrys with troops in there stay out of it aswell then:S?

read what i wrote as an advice to Bahraini authorities and this a valuable advice. in italic

 

[BATMAN]

Well one question is currently PAkistani army have claimed that with the tense border with India and the army streched out in FATA, there are no resources left to launch operations in N. Waziristan.

So the idea that Pakistan would be able to spare 2 divisions to go to Bahrain or Saudi Arabia seems like an impossibility. And if they do send it, then either they don't consider India a threat and were making it up or PA just listens to what SA and Bahrain says rather than protect its own security.

to discuss Saudi Arabia is off topic but you are free to troll.

 

[53fd]

The fact is, national politics is a dirty game. However, the Kingdom of Bahrain is a brutal regime that has inflicted great torture on its people, supported by the Western proxy Saudi Arabia of course. Muslim nations need to realize that Saudi Arabia is the root cause of all extremism & brutality in the Muslim World. Yes, Saudi Arabia is ideologically Wahabi/Salafi, an extremist Sunni sect, & they have managed to brainwash Deobandis Sunnis, who were traditionally peaceful people. The reason why Pakistan cannot develop close relations with Iran is because of Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is the root cause for all the problems in the Muslim world, & the sooner people realize it, the better. This doesn't strictly about Shias & Sunnis, this is about Saudi Arabia which just happens to ideologically Wahabi/Salafi.

 

[Fieldmarshal]

what is the law in Bahrain? law has to be made by majority of people, then if majority is against law so there is no law any more.
country is belong to people, not to king, if king ask foreign help against people that is not legitimate request.
the main point you forget about Bahrain is "Majority" are against ruler, subsequently there is no legitimate ruler in Bahrain.
Bahrain issues is same as Egypt but some of us put his head under to snow and deny the facts.

The main problem with iran is that it is living in the past in the times of cyrus and thinks it is the greatest thing that happen to planet earth. While the reality is that you have been conquered and ruled by every nation under the sun. So this attitude of u being better than every one else is at the center of ur problems.

-While you have the audacity to tell us Pakistanis wt to do and wt not do, u need to follow ur own advise and should have thought about it before sending ur own regular army into syria in support of that tyrant asad and his govt and the the sunnis that they kill every day. 70% of the population in syria is sunni.

-In Pakistan shias number not more than 8-10% of ur population but our president is shia and so is the PM and the CM of sind. Reason is simple that we with the grace of ALLAH have complete harmony, freedom of thought and expression and have a free media.
-Can u even imagine that the iranian President is sunni. forget that just have a look at how the iranian sunnis have been discriminated against in every day life in iran. How the regeme has brutalised the sunnis. this inspite the fact that 25-30% of iranian population is sunni.

-Their was no sectarian prob is Pak before the iranian revolution.

-Iran or persian as it was known before has never excepted sunnis as brothers and has always considered them the enemy and history proves it. When the turks were all set to conquer western europe the persians attacked bagdad and hence the turks had to withdraw. The back of the mughals was not broken by the eng but by the persians when they invaded india and looted and plundered it.

Some times i wonder if iran is our friend or the real enemy masquerading as a friend.

Very very hard facts to swallow but that how it is.

 

[ali_raza]

pakistan should help saudi arabia,in the hour of need becose if we dont the the land of haram could potentially fall under diffrent fitnahs,so its not forign policy but a religious duty of every pakistani to helpsaudis to maintain status quo,

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

everybody knows there is not legitimate government in Bahrain anymore since majority of people are against them.contract with one family does not provide you right to kill people there.
this is humanity not money contract

The current Bahraini government remains the internationally recognized one. As has happened with Qadafi, the UN could be used to pass sanctions against the current Bahraini regime, in which case I would expect Pakistan to comply.

Secondly, Pakistan is not killing any Bahrainis or Saudis. These States are recruiting manpower from Pakistan as they have for decades. Instead of physicians, engineers and laborers, they are now recruiting for their security forces. The responsibility for any deaths in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, in any action taken by security forces, lies with the Bahraini and Saudi governments that order those actions, and not with Pakistanis or Pakistan.

The Pakistanis recruited into the security forces are merely doing their job and earning a paycheck - it is those issuing the orders in the Bahraini and Saudi governments that need to be held accountable if anything goes wrong.