Iran-Pakistan fallout over Bahrain

[RazorMC]

and there is no majority of the population living poor when a few live much better

and should i remind you that the bad jobs are made by the poor people of amny Asian countries

Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying here.

in Bahrain they do everything so sunnis come
it is something which doesn't exist in Emirates: they don't make sunnis come to counterbalance another religious or ethnical majority

so Bahrain is tipycal state of segregation !

thank you for your participation

So you bring the Sunni-Shia into this? Haven't you been looking at what this kind of discussion has led to?

You see, we haven't forgotten the warm welcome and admiration that Iran showed towards the protesters after the elections there. Suddenly Iran believes that protests are the fundamental rights belonging to people? You're going to have a hard time deceiving anyone about Iran's objectives. Unlike some countries, we have access to the Internet and other sources of information.

 

[Abii]

Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying here.



So you bring the Sunni-Shia into this? Haven't you been looking at what this kind of discussion has led to?

You see, we haven't forgotten the warm welcome and admiration that Iran showed towards the protesters after the elections there. Suddenly Iran believes that protests are the fundamental rights belonging to people? You're going to have a hard time deceiving anyone about Iran's objectives. Unlike some countries, we have access to the Internet and other sources of information.

people in Iran are asking for freedom of speech.
In Bahrain they are asking for regonition! Shias are banned from the military and government. Plus, Pakistanis and other sunnis are shipped in and given citizenships and more rights than the ones who have been living there for millenia. I'd say the Shias of Bahrain have it worse than us Iranians.

I'll rather live under the brutal dictatorship of Iran where at the very least I am recognized as an Iranian.

btw, ever heard of that expression "two wrongs don't make a right"?
why do you care about Iran? Care about the message. Don't hide behind Iran's abysmal human rights record.

 

[Bratva]

people in Iran are asking for freedom of speech.
In Bahrain they are asking for regonition! Shias are banned from the military and government. Plus, Pakistanis and other sunnis are shipped in and given citizenships and more rights than the ones who have been living there for millenia. I'd say the Shias of Bahrain have it worse than us Iranians.

I'll rather live under the brutal dictatorship of Iran where at the very least I am recognized as an Iranian.

btw, ever heard of that expression "two wrongs don't make a right"?
why do you care about Iran? Care about the message. Don't hide behind Iran's abysmal human rights record.

Nice emotional speech mate. Now apply all your speech on Sunnis in Iran too.Sunnis Of Iran also demanding recognition, First correct your track record on the issues of Iranian Sunnis, Then Poke Nose in The affairs of Other Countries

 

[flameboard]

Saudi Arabia is destroying the very nation the ""pact"" was meant to protect. Pakistan is no manner of the word a policing. Its become a a guns for hire state and it needs to steer away from that. If Pakistan maintains a neutral position and uses and excuse like we're too busy fighting in the north it gets to keep both parties happy. But is it joins then it looses a big ally.

 

[Abii]

Nice emotional speech mate. Now apply all your speech on Sunnis in Iran too.Sunnis Of Iran also demanding recognition, First correct your track record on the issues of Iranian Sunnis, Then Poke Nose in The affairs of Other Countries

okay I'll bite

did you read the part where I said two wrongs don't make a right?

and btw, the only native Iranian sunnis in Iran are the baluchis. Apart from that the Arab pop'n of Iran is mostly recent immigrants from Iraq who fled Saddam over his reign and later the American invasion. What percentage of Iran are sunnis?

75 percent of Bahrain is shia on the other hand. But as I said, two wongs don't make a right. If you think Iran is wrong, than why do you think KSA and the Khallifa are correct? Are they not both guilty of one crime? You take the time to highlight Iran's track record on its miniscule sunni pop'n just to defend the track record of the Khalifas' treatment of the majority shia pop'n. where I come from this is called being a hypocrite.

 

[flameboard]

Pakistan should stay on the right side of history. If Pakistan does go... future generations will look back on this with shame. Your children will ask what did that nation do for you to support their demise.

 

[RazorMC]

Pakistan should stay on the right side of history. If Pakistan does go... future generations will look back on this with shame. Your children will ask what did that nation do for you to support their demise.

There's no information about Pakistani troops being sent to Bahrain. The people who are going to Bahrain are private citizens only.

 

[RazorMC]

people in Iran are asking for freedom of speech.
In Bahrain they are asking for regonition! Shias are banned from the military and government. Plus, Pakistanis and other sunnis are shipped in and given citizenships and more rights than the ones who have been living there for millenia. I'd say the Shias of Bahrain have it worse than us Iranians.

I'll rather live under the brutal dictatorship of Iran where at the very least I am recognized as an Iranian.

btw, ever heard of that expression "two wrongs don't make a right"?
why do you care about Iran? Care about the message. Don't hide behind Iran's abysmal human rights record.

Did Iran even manage to grant the freedom of speech that you speak of? If you don't believe in people's rights yourselves, then what point are you trying to make by interfering in Bahrain?

Bahrain's opposition itself told Iran to keep away from this issue. If you honestly believe that the movement is genuine, then Iran's involvement is only going to make the opposition look bad. They will lose whatever support they have.
Get the hint: stay out of Bahrain.

 

[BATMAN]

Pakistan should stay on the right side of history. If Pakistan does go... future generations will look back on this with shame. Your children will ask what did that nation do for you to support their demise.

In Kashmir you have 400'000 strong army committing horrible things to the Kashmiris since last 60 years but i bet you never felt that your govt. is on wrong side of history!
you never made a single post against mass graves of Kashmiris. Missing Kashmiris and all the horrible crimes indian army committed against Kashmiris and Gujrati Muslims.
Not a single year of your 60 years history is clean! but you never regretted for a moment! instead, you awarded bravery prize to those who killed most children and women.

The crimes of your army are extended to the all region.

Before you open your mouth kill every one who knows your history because that's what you do before writing fake history.

See you tube is hiding crime of your army.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Pakistan is indeed on wrong side of history our children will ask why we didn't sent army to save Kashmiri children from 400'000 animals.

 

[BATMAN]

Abii,
Your army have raped girls before cutting their heads simply because they wore green color?!!!!!
Your army have beaten and hanged civilians in streets simply becasue they voted for opposition to the head of your supreme council.
Ironically, the man leading the gree revolution wa sright hand of Ayyat Allah Khumaini i!!! and now the successor is hanging the very same people in streets.
Ironically, new successor of Roh Allah Khomaini has already arrested Hashmi Rafsanjani for being condemning the crimes of supreme council.
In your country you have one 4 pages English daily while you dare to compare your self with freedom of Bahrain?
In your country it is illegal to watch any TV chanel other then Mullah TV, yet you question freedom of speech in Bahrain?
You arrest civilians for installing satellite and punishment them like dogs, while it is American cigerets are sold tax free.
It is people of Iran who deserve international support and all Arab world shall send army to save civilians from the crimes of supreme council.

 

[BATMAN]

 

[Meengla]

Iran may be a brutal mullah regime but that is Iranians' own loss. Oh, what to say about Saudi Arabia's records on human rights: Would even shame North Korea when it comes to social freedoms.
Anyway, this 'private citizen' arguments is just as bogus as Raymond Davis being a civilian. When significant number of Pakistani retired SOLDIERS go to defend a corrupt and repressive regime in Bahrain then it brings bad name to Pakistan.
Stay out their affairs and stay neutral. Let them duke it out.

 

[BATMAN]

Iran may be a brutal mullah regime but that is Iranians' own loss. Oh, what to say about Saudi Arabia's records on human rights: Would even shame North Korea when it comes to social freedoms.
Anyway, this 'private citizen' arguments is just as bogus as Raymond Davis being a civilian. When significant number of Pakistani retired SOLDIERS go to defend a corrupt and repressive regime in Bahrain then it brings bad name to Pakistan.
Stay out their affairs and stay neutral. Let them duke it out.

^^ Out of context troll...

My dear covert indian... ironically, your country men find SaudiArabia better than secular india.
Indians choose Saudi Arabia over India for raising their children.

You are either mislead about SA or lying for evil reasons.

If you read the thread it is about Indian member, posting Indian news, quoting Basiji regime.... criticizing Pakistan for his civilians takin up employment in Bahrian police.

 

[Bratva]

^^ Out of context troll...

My dear covert indian... ironically, your country men find SaudiArabia better than secular india.
Indians choose Saudi Arabia over India for raising their children.

You are either mislead about SA or lying for evil reasons.

If you read the thread it is about Indian member, posting Indian news, quoting Basiji regime.... criticizing Pakistan for his civilians takin up employment in Bahrian police.

BATMAN, please, try to stay neutral, Meengla is a respected member posting here as well as on other Pakistani defense forums, for many years.

Your Elite Post demand Utmost care while writing your analysis.

I tend to Agree with Abii. Saudia Arabia is a racist country. You haven't heard how Arabs especially Saudis treat their Maids.How they beat them brutally, how they torture them.

How a 30+ women can not get married in Saudia Arabia, as her Custodian (father) is nor allowing her to marry because she is a doctor and earning handsomely, and supporting her father. When she approached the Courts. They also Gave verdict, she can't Marry Without the consent of her custodian.

Similar thing happened in UAE, where a Prince beating Afghan brutally, but he got released in the end by court because the "Afghan" reached a settlement with Prince


The track records of Arabs are Worse. I agree with Abii. But what i dont agree is The sectarian angle given to the whole story. This sectarianism is worse than Human rights.

We have seen the Horrors of Sectarianism in Pakistan and Iraq How Muslims Killing Muslims, Just on the basis of their belief. I don't want same thing to happen anywhere else.

 

[BATMAN]

^^ see post 191 for your answers and after read the report in folowing link:

Iranian Militias Marry, Rape Virgin Prisoners Before Executions