Iran must reduce nuclear fuel capacity to secure deal: Kerry

[rmi5]

I take your insults with a smile, and I am not going to respond to your angry temper today. By the way, I don't know what is wrong with sub-saharan africans?

Angry insults? Why do you think that I am angry about you, man? I normally give zero damn about Saudi-mullah trolling and trolls since it does not concern me. What I told you is my honest opinion, and I told it to you since I believe that you are one of the few Saudi members of this forum with a functioning brain. So, I thought you are deserved to know the truth from a non-biased foreigner view. Whether you like it or not, the ruling mentality of both Iran and KSA are the same shit, and is ruining our countries. I hope Saudi arab intellectuals can understand it as well, and wake up and change their country.

 

[Serpentine]

Ok let's keep it cool guys. I deleted posts containing inappropriate language, repeated violations will be followed by infractions.

 

[New]

An invasion can't create stability, though I don't really mind it in the case of Iran. The U.S or a coalition led by it will first target the weakest point in Iran, namely its huge ethnic diversity.
They will simply make sure it is turned into an ethnic nightmare. The Savavids Azeri Turks have given Iran its size today including the huge non-Persian components. Imagine a serious and steady arming of ethnic militias in the mountainous non-Persian areas? That will simply shred Iran into many areas that are out of the centeral government control. Eventually, everybody will accept independence as the new status quo.

Well, what ever expressible is already told by my fellow countryman, I just quoted you for no reason.
But nice dreams.

 

[Full Moon]

Angry insults? Why do you think that I am angry about you, man? I normally give zero damn about Saudi-mullah trolling and trolls since it does not concern me. What I told you is my honest opinion, and I told it to you since I believe that you are one of the few Saudi members of this forum with a functioning brain. So, I thought you are deserved to know the truth from a non-biased foreigner view. Whether you like it or not, the ruling mentality of both Iran and KSA are the same shit, and is ruining our countries. I hope Saudi arab intellectuals can understand it as well, and wake up and change their country.

I will take it lightly again. Take a cold shower and forget it. That PHD thesis is killing you man.

 

[rmi5]

I will take it lightly again. Take a cold shower and forget it. That PHD thesis is killing you man.

You are trying to avoid accepting my words in which you also secretly agree with it
Anyway, Saudi is not my country, so I normally don't care about you guys

 

[Full Moon]

You are trying to avoid accepting my words in which you also secretly agree with it
Anyway, Saudi is not my country, so I normally don't care about you guys

So long as you are comfortable with that, then be sure that I am comfortable as well .

 

[rmi5]

So long as you are comfortable with that, then be sure that I am comfortable as well .

OK, cool

 

[KingMamba]

Actually @Full Moon has a point. Even though many Saudis would rejoice at the breaking up of Iran and likewise Iranians may feel the same way about Saudis the fact of the matter is if @Abii is serious about outsiders coming along to topple your government then rest assured they will try to find cracks to exploit and ethnicity is just one such gap. It may look enticing that say NATO will remove the IR but what will you do if they decide breaking Iran up further would assure there would be no trouble from that part of the region in the future?

 

[rmi5]

Actually @Full Moon has a point. Even though many Saudis would rejoice at the breaking up of Iran and likewise Iranians may feel the same way about Saudis the fact of the matter is if @Abii is serious about outsiders coming along to topple your government then rest assured they will try to find cracks to exploit and ethnicity is just one such gap. It may look enticing that say NATO will remove the IR but what will you do if they decide breaking Iran up further would assure there would be no trouble from that part of the region in the future?

All of ME has the same situation as Iran, in a sense that all of them are fucked up. BTW, what matters the most is the prosperity of people, not just bunch of non-sense border lines or ruling systems/families. Europe is much more prosperous after WWII than anytime else in its history, and after its fake boundaries and stupid empires got eliminated, and true democratic and ethnic based new countries and new constitutions established. ME needs to pass the same road.

 

[Full Moon]

This is funny isn't it? You don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

I don't think you will live to see that 'wish' come true. No war is going to happen, no one is going to arm anyone and Iran will remain Iran like it has been even centuries before your country even existed. There is a reason we have lived through all the difficulties, wars and problems.

Well, you don’t know @Serpentine you don’t know. I was pointing out to the possible risk that Persia may face, and you now blame me? That’s a free advice with a bit of honesty. Why everybody suddenly felt insecure. 5 responses in 30 minutes! That’s unprecedented for me. I think I am older than you dearest @Serpentine. I am 32. You are younger I guess, but love to think older and behave older. That’s not too bad, but will annoy the young ladies around you.

Anyway, Iran isn’t that immune of a possible civil war, especially in the case of foreign intervention. If you consider the possibility of the people revolting against the regime, and the possible split up in the military (one side with the regime and the other with the people). This is initially what flamed Syria, Libya, and Tunisia.

It was also Iranians who first made a huge classic revolution at the peak of the oil boom and its prosperity. You think that there is no such risk with a crashing economy? It can’t be. Anyway, I am getting tired of typing and got a long day ahead of me at work. Can't really stay any longer. Excuse me host.

 

[KingMamba]

All of ME has the same situation as Iran, in a sense that all of them are fucked up. BTW, what matters the most is the prosperity of people, not just bunch of non-sense border lines or ruling systems/families. Europe is much more prosperous after WWII than anytime else in its history, and after its fake boundaries and stupid empires got eliminated, and true democratic and ethnic based new countries and new constitutions established. ME needs to pass the same road.

While that is true it would be best if change comes from within because as I said outsiders will only look after their own interests and while an invasion may benefit Iran in some minds in the short term in the long term it may do much more damage.

 

[Abii]

All of ME has the same situation as Iran, in a sense that all of them are fucked up. BTW, what matters the most is the prosperity of people, not just bunch of non-sense border lines or ruling systems/families. Europe is much more prosperous after WWII than anytime else in its history, and after its fake boundaries and stupid empires got eliminated, and true democratic and ethnic based new countries and new constitutions established. ME needs to pass the same road.

Exactly. Smaller countries also develop faster, which means there's a chance that the region can have a future after all. Iran is shitting on Iranian history and legacy anyway. Today's Iran is an arab country in all but name. Arab leaders, arab state religion, arab laws, arab traditions (i.e. hijab and shria law)... There's nothing worth keeping. Even if it breaks up, at least there's a chance that the smaller states will follow Iranian traditions and culture instead of the culture of the lizard eaters over the pond. Azerbaijan, Kurdistan, Parsa etc... Much better than Arabistan cloaked under the name of Iran.

 

[rmi5]

While that is true it would be best if change comes from within because as I said outsiders will only look after their own interests and while an invasion may benefit Iran in some minds in the short term in the long term it may do much more damage.

That's right. outsiders always look after their own interests which it is not a strange behavior. But, it is like hiring a handyman to fix your home. he may rip you off financially, but if you have not the ability to fix it on your own, you need to pay that handyman. The truth that @Abii is trying to say is the same, he means that Middle-easterners cannot fix the issue. So, we may be ripped off, but it worth the problem to be fixed since there is no other option available.

 

[KingMamba]

That's right. outsiders always look after their own interests which it is not a strange behavior. But, it is like hiring a handyman to fix your home. he may rip you off financially, but if you have not the ability to fix it on your own, you need to pay that handyman. The truth that @Abii is trying to say is the same, he means that Middle-easterners cannot fix the issue. So, we may be ripped off, but it worth the problem to be fixed since there is no other option available.

I think Iraq and Afghanistan post invasion shows you that it is not that simple.

 

[Full Moon]

Exactly. Smaller countries also develop faster, which means there's a chance that the region can have a future after all. Iran is shitting on Iranian history and legacy anyway. Today's Iran is an arab country in all but name. Arab leaders, arab state religion, arab laws, arab traditions (i.e. hijab and shria law)... There's nothing worth keeping. Even if it breaks up, at least there's a chance that the smaller states will follow Iranian traditions and culture instead of the culture of the lizard eaters over the pond. Azerbaijan, Kurdistan, Parsa etc... Much better than Arabistan cloaked under the name of Iran.

@Abii, that's too much of a generosity man. We can't take that complement. There is no room left!