Iran Missile Strikes Reveal Potential Military Weaknesses

[KN-1]

Not in ICBMs...

i was not talking about ICBM either, we are talking about SRBM's IRBMs. you have better solution then them?

 

[SOHEIL]

Are you seriously dragging me into this debate of How Pakistan armed forces are better equipped then irani counterparts?
Told you before we are not enemies. we face different threats still you asking me this. I hate Vs threads we are not enemies man whats the point of this comparison?
anyways for your info.

Pakistan Air force is equipped with a Fleet
76 F16 which are all BVR Capable and State of the art and 18 of them are Blk52 rest are MLU Blk40.
100 JF17 Fighters which are MRCAs all BVR Capable domestically supplied and Sate of the art 4th generation fighters which are Potent in Air to Air and Air to Ground roles
Along with a fleet of Massive 200 F7 Interceptors
Along with them is the fleet of 170 Mirage III/5s which is soon to retire
7 AWACS including SAAB EREYE and Chinese Y8
4 Strategic Transport Aircraft Il-78 and
28 Tactical Support Aircraft mostly C130 Hercules

Ground Forces have:
In Artillery
385 Self Propelled Artillery guns with 60 203mm and 325 155mm
3300 Towed Artillery Guns including 30 200mm 400 155mm 1656 105mm+ and 1200 small 88mm
300 MRLS Launchers

In Armoured
820 state of the art Heavy Tanks including Ukaranian T-80 and Pakistani Alkhalid
1900 Potent Modernised tanks including Pakistani Modernized Alzarar and Chinese T85 and T69II
3000 APCs and IFVs including Talha, M113, Otokar BTR and MAxxpro

Around 35,000 ATGM Missiles Inventory is maintained including BAktar Shikan, TOW Sniper and Cobra

Missile Defence Forces have Ballistic Missiles that can reach upto 2750 KM that incluide Ghauri, Sheheen Abdali Ghaznavi and Ababeel
And Precision Strike Cruise Missiles including GLCM Babur with 750km Range and ALCM Raad 550km
Also Having Battlefield Cruise Missiles armed with tactical Nukes
Pakistan also have MIRV Technology that negates anti ballistic missiles shield with its swarm effect.

All this is manned by an Armed Forces of 550,000 Army personnel 200,000 Rangers and FC
and 500,000 Active Reserves Totaling 1,250,000 men ready for deployment in case of war.

All the above equipment have active suppliers providing state of the art upgra
And we operate such massive armed to teeth Armed forces because we have an enemy 7 times larger.


I am intentionally ignoring NAVY

Iran on the other hand have a crumbling airforce.
44 F14 Tomcats that have been discontinued and not Supplied with much needed American equipment. They are still made operational by local parts
25 Mig29A which are also now obsolete as it did not got upgraded with latest upgrades from Russia
Rest are all Third generation with 45 of them being F7 and Mirage F1 which i assume are properly supplied with upgrades and parts
And the rest American Third Generation 60 F4 Phantoms and 60 F5s again maintained by Iran locally without any modern upgrades.
And some 40 50 3rd Generation Russian Sukhois

Kindly provide the rest of Iran Armed forces equipment as compared to Pakistan will you please. So that we have a better comparison. i have provided Pakistani side here.
Still i believe there is no point comparing Pakistan and Irani Forces.

You generalized your superiority... Remember!?

In some fields Pakistan is not even close to Iran... Should i mention them?

i was not talking about ICBM either, we are talking about SRBM's IRBMs. you have better solution then them?

You are trying to say if they don't have >>> you can't have!

Am i right?

 

[Zhukov]

You generalized your superiority... Remember!?

In some fields Pakistan is not even close to Iran... Should i mention them?



You are trying to say if they don't have >>> you can't have!

Am i right?

I was not generalizing anything. I was talking with on ground facts. As for now Pakistan holds a significantly larger and better equipped Armed forces compared to Iran in almost all areas despite Pakistan being smaller economy then iran and lacking the Black Gold Resource of Oil. And there is no point of military comparison as we are neither Enemies nor Allies.

Yes if there are areas in Which Iran is superior to Pakistan Armed forces and where we can learn from Iran i would love to know and learn. The way i see it. Its Achievement of Iran

 

[KN-1]

ou are trying to say if they don't have >>> you can't have!

Am i right?

No, i just want to hear Iran is superior then Russia and America in SRBMs and IRBM's tech, both of whom dropped the idea of using ballistic missiles for precision strikes long time ago and developed their cruise missiles, why are you afraid to accept?

In some fields Pakistan is not even close to Iran... Should i mention them?

yes.. those toy drones? no one need them.

 

[AmirPatriot]

No, I believe on knowledge that is available, and that knowledge tells that BMs are not PGMs that role is performed by CMs.

Or, precision BMs are a relatively new capability and hence comparing them to past TBMs is moot.

 

[SOHEIL]

No, i just want to hear Iran is superior then Russia and America in SRBMs and IRBM's tech, both of whom dropped the idea of using ballistic missiles for precision strikes long time ago and developed their cruise missiles, why are you afraid to accept?


yes.. those toy drones? no one need them.

 

[AmirPatriot]

No, i just want to hear Iran is superior then Russia and America in SRBMs and IRBM's tech, both of whom dropped the idea of using ballistic missiles for precision strikes long time ago and developed their cruise missiles, why are you afraid to accept?

They didn't drop it, they were forced to stop using MRBMs by the INF treaty. And both have significant air forces and don't need to use TBMs as much.

 

[Naara-e-Mastana]

Even Israelis confirmed the success... But sectarian trolls can't

Oh so now you start believing israeli media .
I do know what israeli media says anoit your flop show of power .

 

[raptor22]

Are you seriously dragging me into this debate of How Pakistan armed forces are better equipped then irani counterparts?
Told you before we are not enemies. we face different threats still you asking me this. I hate Vs threads we are not enemies man whats the point of this comparison?
anyways for your info.

Pakistan Air force is equipped with a Fleet
76 F16 which are all BVR Capable and State of the art and 18 of them are Blk52 rest are MLU Blk40.
100 JF17 Fighters which are MRCAs all BVR Capable domestically supplied and Sate of the art 4th generation fighters which are Potent in Air to Air and Air to Ground roles
Along with a fleet of Massive 200 F7 Interceptors
Along with them is the fleet of 170 Mirage III/5s which is soon to retire
7 AWACS including SAAB EREYE and Chinese Y8
4 Strategic Transport Aircraft Il-78 and
28 Tactical Support Aircraft mostly C130 Hercules

Ground Forces have:
In Artillery
385 Self Propelled Artillery guns with 60 203mm and 325 155mm
3300 Towed Artillery Guns including 30 200mm 400 155mm 1656 105mm+ and 1200 small 88mm
300 MRLS Launchers

In Armoured
820 state of the art Heavy Tanks including Ukaranian T-80 and Pakistani Alkhalid
1900 Potent Modernised tanks including Pakistani Modernized Alzarar and Chinese T85 and T69II
3000 APCs and IFVs including Talha, M113, Otokar BTR and MAxxpro

Around 35,000 ATGM Missiles Inventory is maintained including BAktar Shikan, TOW Sniper and Cobra

Missile Defence Forces have Ballistic Missiles that can reach upto 2750 KM that incluide Ghauri, Sheheen Abdali Ghaznavi and Ababeel
And Precision Strike Cruise Missiles including GLCM Babur with 750km Range and ALCM Raad 550km
Also Having Battlefield Cruise Missiles armed with tactical Nukes
Pakistan also have MIRV Technology that negates anti ballistic missiles shield with its swarm effect.

All this is manned by an Armed Forces of 550,000 Army personnel 200,000 Rangers and FC
and 500,000 Active Reserves Totaling 1,250,000 men ready for deployment in case of war.

All the above equipment have active suppliers providing state of the art upgra
And we operate such massive armed to teeth Armed forces because we have an enemy 7 times larger.


I am intentionally ignoring NAVY

Iran on the other hand have a crumbling airforce.
44 F14 Tomcats that have been discontinued and not Supplied with much needed American equipment. They are still made operational by local parts
25 Mig29A which are also now obsolete as it did not got upgraded with latest upgrades from Russia
Rest are all Third generation with 45 of them being F7 and Mirage F1 which i assume are properly supplied with upgrades and parts
And the rest American Third Generation 60 F4 Phantoms and 60 F5s again maintained by Iran locally without any modern upgrades.
And some 40 50 3rd Generation Russian Sukhois

Kindly provide the rest of Iran Armed forces equipment as compared to Pakistan will you please. So that we have a better comparison. i have provided Pakistani side here.
Still i believe there is no point comparing Pakistan and Irani Forces.

Most of the aforementioned equipment by you such as AD Systems, tanks , choppers , BMs, ATGMs , cruise missiles, Artillery,drones, destroyers , submarines , military vehicles ,iInfantry weapons , turbojet engine you name a few are produced and manufactured domestically in Iran .... even regarding air force Iran have had several projects.

 

[Zhukov]

Most of the aforementioned equipment by you such as AD Systems, tanks , choppers , BMs, ATGMs , cruise missiles, Artillery,drones, destroyers , submarines , military vehicles ,iInfantry weapons , turbojet engine you name a few are produced and manufactured domestically in Iran .... even regarding air force Iran have had several projects.

Yes it is commendable how Iran managed to achieve all this regardless of the sanctions that were imposed on it. A Real feat to be proud of.
But he was saying Iran have more powerful and better equipped forces then Pakistan. I just replied to him. Not saying Pak Vs Iran stuff.

 

[Bubblegum Crisis]

I don't know what CEP Pakistani missile have but Iranian missile Zolfaghar that's been used in this attack CEP is less than 50 meters .. Even brigadier general Amir Ali Hajizadeh commander of Aerospace Force of IRGC has claimed that CEP of Iranian missiles has reached to less than 10 meters .. that's why we deploy our drones in the sky of target and zoom the camera to a specific spot ...

Iranian sniper:

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[raptor22]

Yes it is commendable how Iran managed to achieve all this regardless of the sanctions that were imposed on it. A Real feat to be proud of.
But he was saying Iran have more powerful and better equipped forces then Pakistan. I just replied to him. Not saying Pak Vs Iran stuff.

@SOHEIL is well informed guy regarding Iranian military equipment and projects ... he's made many claims here on this forum which were taken lightly by other members which later on were proven right ...so if he claimed such a thing then he knows what he says ... you should ask him to explain it for you.

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let consider Iranian missiles CEP is less than 500 meters and what we say is not true .. please share with us your country latest achievements regarding its missile program ....

 

[Zhukov]

@SOHEIL is well informed guy regarding Iranian military equipment and projects ... he's made many claims here on this forum which were taken lightly by other members which later on were proven right ...so if he claimed such a thing then he knows what he says ... you should ask him to explain it for you.

I asked him and he didn't responded. I didn't started this discussion at all in first place. He took a sentence out of my post and just created this debate.
I don't mind that Pakistan is weaker then Turkey militarily. why should i be? Pakistan is even weaker then Its Foe India. The only purpose of armed forces is to protect the homeland and secure geostrategic interests which we are capable of and that's it.
Iran is significantly weaker then Pakistan Militarily. And that's not a shame. Neither am i saying anywhere that Irani Forces are incompetent or fail to achieve there objectives. Whats the point of accepting? or prove me wrong

 

[RoadRunner401]

Perhaps this is why, you are using Pakistani/Afghani proxies instead of IRGC.

You keep forgetting 10000s upon 1000s of Wahhabi terrorist that are fighting and terrorizing the world on behalf of Saudi and their cousins Israelis

 

[Bubblegum Crisis]

Nuclear weapons and Israel

Jericho III

Israel's Deployment of Nuclear Missiles on Subs from Germany

Samson Option


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2006 Lebanon War (Iran)


Gaza War (2008–09) - Hezbollah (Iran) -


= Dead ‘Arabs Sunnis’

@SOHEIL

... please share with us your country latest achievements regarding its missile program ....

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Of Course ! Yours, ‘North Korea’...



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