Iran launches state-of-the-art Wind Turbine

[mandrom]

It's not, it's just a wind turbine. A college can put one together in a few days.

Kiarash is a mullah lover. In Iran they use stuff like this to brainwash the normal folk who sell vegetables on carts to try and make them think Iran is a superpower. Sort of like how North Korea uses propaganda to brainwash its people.


Good achievement for a mid size start-up trying to make a profit for the first time, not for a country. The language you use shows how backward Iran is. A wind turbine is used as propaganda. That's just sad.

abii, islam or no islam.iran has always been innovator nation. though I feel bahaism or zorasterism was better ,but iran seems to do well under islam also.

 

[Abii]

abii, islam or no islam.iran has always been innovator nation. though I feel bahaism or zorasterism was better ,but iran seems to do well under islam also.

It's called oil. Without it, Iran under akhoonds would be Yemen.

 

[mandrom]

It's called oil. Without it, Iran under akhoonds would be Yemen.

Iran has sanctions and has to sell oil at basement prices. Yet it does a lot of innovations. Though yes,Islam has retarded iran's progress or iran would be major power today like China.

 

[Serpentine]

Good achievement for a mid size start-up trying to make a profit for the first time, not for a country. The language you use shows how backward Iran is. A wind turbine is used as propaganda. That's just sad.

Mid-size start up? MAPNA is biggest company in Iran working in energy field (construction and installation of energy production machinery, including boilers, gas and steam turbines, electrical generators, as well as industrial scale petroleum processing installations, railway locomotives and wind power), so this is not a school project. Being able to generate wind energy and being able to make your turbines at home and save tens of billions each year.
You can't help it, you haven't been able to put your political view aside and then share your opinion and until then, no one is going to respect that.

How many countries are able to produce 2.5 MW wind turbines and how making a wind turbine makes someone backward?

Here's the product list of Vestas, the largest and most valuable wind turbine manufacturer in the world:

• V47-660 kW
• V52-850 kW
• V60-850 kW
• V66-1.75 MW
• V80-1.8 MW
• V80-2.0 MW
• V82-1.65 MW
• V90-1.8 MW
• V90-2.0 MW
• V90-3.0 MW
• V100-1.8 MW IEC S
• V100-2.0 MW IEC 2B
• V100-2.6 MW
• V110-2.0 MW IEC 3A
• V112-3.0 MW IEC 2A
• V112-3.3 MW IEC 2A
• V112-3.3 MW IEC 1B
• V117-3.3 MW IEC 2A
• V126-3.3MW (2013)
• V164-8.0MW (2014)

As you see 8 MW variation became operational (not fully implemented) in not any sooner than 2014 and before that it made 3.3 and most of its models are below 3 MW wind turbines.

Countries who produce wind turbines in the world:

U.S, Denmark, Germany, China, India, Spain (major ones)

Japan, Netherlands, Canada and France

So yes, I do consider production of a 2.5 MW wind turbine an achievement for a country like Iran (not state of the ar) which receives no technical help right now from outside and it's the only country in ME/Africa and fourth in Asia to produce wind turbines. Actually Iran is among nearly 10 nations who produce wind turbines.

It's not, it's just a wind turbine. A college can put one together in a few days.

Really? Show us some colleges that produce big wind turbines. You really need to study some basic things about wind energy generation.

 

[rmi5]

The best way to destroy something, is defending it in a wrong way.
How many countries are willing to use these turbines? for how many of them, it is economically beneficial to build these turbines? The (economic) world does not work based on potentials, or ability to build something, it works based on economical advantages. Iran does not have such concern, since she has oil money and is sanctioned. so, basically she can make some stuff that others are not willing to make it. but, What's the point? does it mean that Iran is technologically advanced, or more advanced than many west european countries that don't make these stuff? obviously no.
Don't try to fool yourself, and be realistic thinker.

You can't help it, you haven't been able to put your political view aside and then share your opinion and until then, no one is going to respect that.

How many countries are able to produce 2.5 MW wind turbines and how making a wind turbine makes someone backward?

Here's the product list of Vestas, the largest and most valuable wind turbine manufacturer in the world:

• V47-660 kW
• V52-850 kW
• V60-850 kW
• V66-1.75 MW
• V80-1.8 MW
• V80-2.0 MW
• V82-1.65 MW
• V90-1.8 MW
• V90-2.0 MW
• V90-3.0 MW
• V100-1.8 MW IEC S
• V100-2.0 MW IEC 2B
• V100-2.6 MW
• V110-2.0 MW IEC 3A
• V112-3.0 MW IEC 2A
• V112-3.3 MW IEC 2A
• V112-3.3 MW IEC 1B
• V117-3.3 MW IEC 2A
• V126-3.3MW (2013)
• V164-8.0MW (2014)

As you see 8 MW variation became operational (not fully implemented) in not any sooner than 2014 and before that it made 3.3 and most of its models are below 3 MW wind turbines.

Countries who produce wind turbines in the world:

U.S, Denmark, Germany, China, India, Spain (major ones)

Japan, Netherlands, Canada and France

So yes, I do consider production of a 2.5 MW wind turbine an achievement for a country like Iran (not state of the ar) which receives no technical help right now from outside and it's the only country in ME/Africa and fourth in Asia to produce wind turbines. Actually Iran is among nearly 10 nations who produce wind turbines.



Really? Show us some colleges that produce more than 1MW wind turbines. You really need to study some basic things about wind energy generation.

 

[Abii]

@Serpentine

Small start up firms are sending satellites into space here in Canada and the US. Colleges here are more productive than the entire Middle East.

And you basically told me that almost every country in the West has firms producing wind turbines and the rest of the countries just buy them if they actually need them. That's essentially what I said.

You guys are so behind of everything in the world that you cling on to a solitary wind turbine as if you just created a warp engine.

 

[mandrom]

@Serpentine

Small start up firms are sending satellites into space here in Canada and the US. Colleges here are more productive than the entire Middle East.

And you basically told me that almost every country in the West has firms producing wind turbines and the rest of the countries just buy them if they actually need them. That's essentially what I said.

You guys are so behind of everything in the world that you cling on to a solitary wind turbine as if you just created a warp engine.

abii, give them a break. For the number of revolutions and kind of wars ,sanctions,coups Iran has faced ,I will say they have progressed well. And USA,Canada have been safe and stable for more than 140 years. Iran hasn't had that safety. Though I agree with you islam has retarded progress of Iran.

 

[Abii]

The best way to destroy something, is defending it in a wrong way.
How many countries are willing to use these turbines? for how many of them, it is economically beneficial to build these turbines? The (economic) world does not work based on potentials, or ability to build something, it works based on economical advantages. Iran does not have such concern, since she has oil money and is sanctioned. so, basically she can make some stuff that others are not willing to make it. but, What's the point? does it mean that Iran is technologically advanced, or more advanced than many west european countries that don't make these stuff? obviously no.
Don't try to fool yourself, and be realistic thinker.

That's a good point.

Every single East Asian, European and American country can produce these second rate wind turbines. Unlike Iran, where pedestrian overpasses have escalators on them, developed countries produce and environment where local production is based on efficiency first, need/want second. When half a dozen neighboring countries already produce turbines, mid-size EU countries no longer need to give grants to firms so they can start making their own. That money can be used to do other things. Only a fucking idiot thinks Iran is advanced b/c MAPNA is suddenly making turbines with imported technology, material and equipment lol

abii, give them a break. For the number of revolutions and kind of wars ,sanctions,coups Iran has faced ,I will say they have progressed well. And USA,Canada have been safe and stable for more than 140 years. Iran hasn't had that safety. Though I agree with you islam has retarded progress of Iran.

I know where you're coming from, the problem is you don't know how they think. If you did you wouldn't be giving them a break. In your mind they're a bunch of small timers trying their hardest under sanctions. Naturally you think the fact that they're trying is admirable and they deserve a break. However, in their mind they think they're Germany and the shit they produce can't be produced in most countries. They've been brainwashed like North Koreans, although not to the same extent.

That's why it's so hard to snap them out of it.

 

[mandrom]

That's a good point.



I know where you're coming from, the problem is you don't know how they think. If you did you wouldn't be giving them a break. In your mind they're a bunch of small timers trying their hardest under sanctions. Naturally you think the fact that they're trying is admirable and they deserve a break. However, in their mind they think they're Germany and the shit they produce can't be produced in most countries. They've been brainwashed like North Koreans, although not to the same extent.

That's why it's so hard to snap them out of it.

See,I will partly agree with you on the propaganda part.But still for the resources that iran have ,I have seen them produce drones ,jam stealth planes ,build petrocracker's ,machine tools without foreign help. See India has more resources and military power ,yet I don't see the kind of innovation that iran achieves indigenously .They are fine innovators and I think its wired in your people.

And being self-critical is very good. I like that .I have observed that many iranians are self-critical ,that does make them open minds, unlike the arabs.

 

[Abii]

See,I will partly agree with you on the propaganda part.But still for the resources that iran have ,I have seen them produce drones ,jam stealth planes ,build petrocracker's ,machine tools without foreign help. See India has more resources and military power ,yet I don't see the kind of innovation that iran achieves indigenously .They are fine innovators and I think its wired in your people.

And being self-critical is very good. I like that .I have observed that many iranians are self-critical ,that does make them open minds, unlike the arabs.

lol that's because you're extremely ignorant of India.
MAPNA is essentially a govt owned firm. They've produced a turbine and they're spreading the news like they've created a warp engine.

This is India (potential future estimate of 50K to 100K MW)

Wind power in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Serpentine]

The best way to destroy something, is defending it in a wrong way.
How many countries are willing to use these turbines? for how many of them, it is economically beneficial to build these turbines? The (economic) world does not work based on potentials, or ability to build something, it works based on economical advantages. Iran does not have such concern, since she has oil money and is sanctioned. so, basically she can make some stuff that others are not willing to make it. but, What's the point? does it mean that Iran is technologically advanced, or more advanced than many west european countries that don't make these stuff? obviously no.
Don't try to fool yourself, and be realistic thinker.

So, since Iran has oil, it shouldn't care about investing in renewable energy? This is the logic of most oil producing countries and as stupid as it is, it's the sole reason that most oil producing countries are behind others in terms of technology advancements.

Did I say it means Iran is technologically advanced? Where exactly did I say this? I said this is a good achievement and I respect efforts of those ones who have helped to make this. Working on projects like this brings enormous amounts of experience and expertise to the country and it's simply far far better than sitting down, selling oil and buying stuff without having any clue how to make things. There are some good examples in ME, no need to mention them.

If we mass produce these turbines, the costs will be far less than buying thousands of them, that's the reason all western and Asian powers have invested in it.

@Serpentine
Small start up firms are sending satellites into space here in Canada and the US. Colleges here are more productive than the entire Middle East.
And you basically told me that almost every country in the West has firms producing wind turbines and the rest of the countries just buy them if they actually need them. That's essentially what I said.
You guys are so behind of everything in the world that you cling on to a solitary wind turbine as if you just created a warp engine.

Your are too emotional and it is not going to help in a debate. I didn't say it's anything extraordinary, state of the art or shocking, what I said was that it's a good achievement and a step in the right direction.
You believe ME is backward right? Not that I entirely agree with this, but one of the reasons that you think like this is that ME countries are used to be simply huge oil depots who produce nothing good, only sell oil and buy what they want and it's indeed backwardness. So any step to at least reduce this habit is a step in the right direction, even if they produce junks at first (U.S and Europe also produced junk at first, look where they are now).

 

[mandrom]

lol that's because you're extremely ignorant of India.
MAPNA is essentially a govt owned firm. They've produced a turbine and they're spreading the news like they've created a warp engine.

This is India (potential future estimate of 50K to 100K MW)

Wind power in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I will be frank. There has been a lot of technology transfer and patent buying by suzlon from western inventors since the liberalization and a lot of western investment and tech sharing since 1990's.

This is not so for iran due to sanctions in my opinion. See, I know you don't like islam.I don't too. But you are mistaken here. India could achieve more but does not. I hope under modi it changes.

 

[Abii]

I will be frank. There has been a lot of technology transfer and patent buying by suzlon from western inventors since the liberalization and a lot of western investment and tech sharing since 1990's.

This is not so for iran due to sanctions in my opinion. See, I know you don't like islam.I don't too. But you are mistaken here. India could achieve more but does not. I hope under modi it changes.

And whose fault is it that we're under sanctions? Was India not under sanctions? Did you not get out of it by opening up to the world and becoming civilized? That's exactly my point.

 

[mandrom]

And whose fault is it that we're under sanctions? Was India not under sanctions? Did you not get out of it by opening up to the world and becoming civilized? That's exactly my point.

Yes, I partly do agree here.

 

[-SINAN-]

It's not, it's just a wind turbine. A college can put one together in a few days.

I agree that wind turbine is no big deal at all.... but if we are talking about 2.5 MW... i would say now we are talking..

his is why I wrote > Gas turbine : !
I just mentioned mapna's other capability ...

Is Mapna a state or private corporation ?