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Iran: Executions of three Iranian Kurds an outrage

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Yeah,that put a smile on my face:woot::p:

So you dint actually have something to say about people being executed without proper legal proceedings , you can only make a stupid remark.

Here is an idea. Why dont you name us one country in the middle east that has better freedom and human right record than Israel.


Here , be guest click away :

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/freedom-press-2017

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world-2018-table-country-scores

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Maybe Ms. Sotoudeh is not aware of who these terrorists actually are.

Look Amir Patriot

I am not trying to persuade you to suddenly change your opinion and be against capital punishment and support its abolishment , which is what I think is best .

I do however expect you to be alert when there are so many reports of people being executed without proper legal proceedings - and there are many reports on those not just talking about this case.

Only about two years ago a judge in Iran said to a condemned man :

“ If you’re innocent you’ll go to heaven after you’re hanged "

Now i would rather have this small matter of guilt to be resolved before the execution , not after if you know what I mean ...

I also think that you should be alarmed by the sheer numbers of people executed. Iran in the past years have executed more than 500 a year. Compare that to your neighbor Pakistan who has 2.5 as much people and face the same problems - their execution numbers in recent times are about 50 a years. 10 times less than Iran.

I don't thing that with such numbers you can say that all is well in this area

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So you dint actually have something to say about people being executed without proper legal proceedings , you can only make a stupid remark.

Here is an idea. Why dont you name us one country in the middle east that has better freedom and human right record than Israel.


Here , be guest click away :

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/freedom-press-2017

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world-2018-table-country-scores

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Look Amir Patriot

I am not trying to persuade you to suddenly change your opinion and be against capital punishment and support its abolishment , which is what I think is best .

I do however expect you to be alert when there are so many reports of people being executed without proper legal proceedings - and there are many reports on those not just talking about this case.

Only about two years ago a judge in Iran said to a condemned man :

“ If you’re innocent you’ll go to heaven after you’re hanged "

Now i would rather have this small matter of guilt to be resolved before the execution , not after if you know what I mean ...

I also think that you should be alarmed by the sheer numbers of people executed. Iran in the past years have executed more than 500 a year. Compare that to your neighbor Pakistan who has 2.5 as much people and face the same problems - their execution numbers in recent times are about 50 a years. 10 times less than Iran.

I don't thing that with such numbers you can say that all is well in this area

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Its funny but I didnt notice a palestine in their little list......I wonder why that is?.Israel may be "free"[what ever that actually means]but the palestinians certainly arent.
Heres another thing you might not know,the writer Sarah Sunn Bush found that a study of freedom house's archive showed that they never debated marking Israel as anything less than "free" despite calls from many sources in the region to do so[bias very much?]
Oh,you might not know this either but "freedom"house gets 86% of its funding from THE US GOVERNMENT[I think that says it all,dont you?]
 
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Its funny but I didnt notice a palestine in their little list......I wonder why that is?.Israel may be "free"[what ever that actually means]but the palestinians certainly arent.
Heres another thing you might not know,the writer Sarah Sunn Bush found that a study of freedom house's archive showed that they never debated marking Israel as anything less than "free" despite calls from many sources in the region to do so[bias very much?]
Oh,you might not know this either but "freedom"house gets 86% of its funding from THE US GOVERNMENT[I think that says it all,dont you?]

Well i can agree that the palestinians deserve to be free and that conflict needs to be resolved , cause it makes all those involved in a conflict lesser as humans.

How does that make , iran executing 500 people , without due legal proceeding , ok.


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I do however expect you to be alert when there are so many reports of people being executed without proper legal proceedings - and there are many reports on those not just talking about this case.

Only about two years ago a judge in Iran said to a condemned man :

“ If you’re innocent you’ll go to heaven after you’re hanged "

Now i would rather have this small matter of guilt to be resolved before the execution , not after if you know what I mean ...

In this particular case it is without doubt that the executed men were terrorists. So I am unconcerned. But in other cases were there is doubt of if the accused is guilty, sure, there should be proper due process. But this thread isn't the place to raise issue.

I also think that you should be alarmed by the sheer numbers of people executed. Iran in the past years have executed more than 500 a year. Compare that to your neighbor Pakistan who has 2.5 as much people and face the same problems - their execution numbers in recent times are about 50 a years. 10 times less than Iran.

Most of the executions are for drug offences afaik. Iran is bordered by Afghanistan one of the largest exporters of heroin in the world. Drug addiction is a big problem in Iran so there are harsh penalties put on drug traffickers, including execution in severe cases (there are a lot of severe cases). I had heard a few months ago that execution was to be removed as a punishment for drug smuggling but I don't know if it got anywhere.

But let's be perfectly honest here Israel doesn't care about human rights nor does the US, otherwise they wouldn't be so buddy buddy with Saudi which is beyond anyone's argument is one of the worst in the world at human rights.
 
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Most of the executions are for drug offences afaik. Iran is bordered by Afghanistan one of the largest exporters of heroin in the world. Drug addiction is a big problem in Iran so there are harsh penalties put on drug traffickers, including execution in severe cases (there are a lot of severe cases). I had heard a few months ago that execution was to be removed as a punishment for drug smuggling but I don't know if it got anywhere.

That is why i gave the example of Pakistan that has the same drug and security issues because of bordering Afghanistan but still does not reach such numbers of executions.

Execution does not solve the problem anyway , to stop crime one must invest in education and social conditions.
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That is why i gave the example of Pakistan that has the same drug and security issues because of bordering Afghanistan but still does not reach such numbers of executions.

Well Iran is kind of a gateway to Europe for drugs, if they want to get to Europe they have to go through Iran.
 
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