Iran Dominates in Iraq After U.S. ‘Handed the Country Over’

[zartosht]

oh America the democracy lover.. went into Iraq to give their peoples freedoms!!

while evil sinister iran ruined everything!!! !!!!!

why on earth are you even spreading this propaganda revisionist garbage? from new York times of all places? (Israeli webstites would probably be less pro-Zionist)

Salon actually wrote a really nice rebuttal of this entire propaganda garbage piece.

NYT rewrites history of Iraq War, painting U.S. as democracy-lover, Iran as sinister imperialist

The New York Times’ Tim Arango took what could have been an interesting topic for war journalism — Iran’s increased role in Iraq — and morphed it into a cynical revisionist history of American and Saudi involvement in the Middle East. In doing so, Arango paints the U.S. as a noble, freedom-loving nation on a mission to improve the lives of average Iraqis, and Iran as a sinister imperial force working to expand its sphere of influence across the region.

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cant post links yet, but full article is easy to find on google



lets not whitewash history people.

 

[BATMAN]

I was a bit shocked by a recent release of some reports in the US saying: Former US ambassador to Afghanistan and Iraq admits "Iran is the one who has developed a US military plan to strike the Taliban!"

http://archive.aawsat.com/leader.asp?section=3&article=749043&issueno=12761#.UntIoSfEroC
What do you think about it? It seems that whenever the US and Iranian interests converge .. Iran will cooperate..

All of the trouble in region, is a co-operation of (un)holy mulla of Iran and - shetan bazurg.
They have been working hand in hand from past 4 decades, and today they are enjoying the evil crop.

 

[Muhammed45]

I was a bit shocked by a recent release of some reports in the US saying: Former US ambassador to Afghanistan and Iraq admits "Iran is the one who has developed a US military plan to strike the Taliban!"

http://archive.aawsat.com/leader.asp?section=3&article=749043&issueno=12761#.UntIoSfEroC
What do you think about it? It seems that whenever the US and Iranian interests converge .. Iran will cooperate..

Took me a little time for translation and reading. Nice read, i understand the ambassador completely.
Contained important facts. The pressure on Rouhani's government from militants!! hahah I have no idea, what they have told our reformists during those negotiations but whatever it is, it cannot change our main policy and hostility against Americans. We will kill invader Americans whether in Persian gulf or in Iraq or any other places that they may make troubles for us.
2001, the year reformists had taken the whole political power in Iran through presidential and parliamentary elections. I told you above, during their democratic dominance in Iran, huge mistakes were made by them. I can mention for example, their talks with Americans, their sanctions on IRGC whom Americans called them hostile militants in Iran LOL, their treasons and mixing our Islamic culture with American dirty culture and etc. Their treason to Islamic concepts whether in or outside of Iran has hurt our fatherland, also our anti-Israel stance between Muslim nations was and marginalized the slogan of our revolution DESTROY ISRAEL. They are weak and fragile in politics, whole economic problems, dependence on western powers are all their mistakes. Our oil based economy was designed by them and always gives a leverage to western powers which makes them able of sanctioning our economy whenever they want.
Here you can see their , reformists , treason about negotiations with Americans about Afghani issue :
http://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/673221/فیلم-روایتی-از-همکاری-دولت-اصلاحات-با-آمریکا-در-جنگ-افغانستان
The guy says that reformist governors cooperated with Americans without permission of leadership. He mentions that the way of negotiations with US ambassador and working with them despite our major policy and hostility against Americans, gave a weak image of Iran to American leadership. Bro, that was treason not only to Iranian leadership but whole Islamic world. Perhaps wishful thinking idiots imagined , by those ordinary and little cooperations, Americans will be kind to them in the future. Right after reformists' coop with Americans, however it was not a big and considerable collaboration because of it's civil aspects means that we had no military collaboration with Americans, G.W.Bus the bastard of all times appeared on media and called Iran axis of evil hahhah. That was a rebuke to the people who put their faith in Satanist Zionists the leadership of USA.

The same root was being passed by current semi reformist government and this was the response of our leadership :
www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-us-talks-idUSKCN0S10P220151007

Idiots will never learn, there must be a leverage on them. American ambassador called us militants who put pressure on Rouhani's government LOL. FYI These militants believe in Islamic unity, they are Iranians and Ali Khamenei leads them.

All of the trouble in region, is a co-operation of (un)holy mulla of Iran and - shetan bazurg.
They have been working hand in hand from past 4 decades, and today they are enjoying the evil crop.

@The SC
In this quote, there is a funny fact.
Americans have presence in Pakistan not to mention and their corrupt leadership have no problem with it. They permitted Americans to use their soil against Afghani Mujahids, ISI's cooperations with CIA.

Egypt wasn't an angel, you have recognized Israel in the peace treaty with them.

What is your respond to my claims?

Your governments are still betraying Ummah concept. How does this guy dare to say something like that?

 

[The SC]

Took me a little time for translation and reading. Nice read, i understand the ambassador completely.
Contained important facts. The pressure on Rouhani's government from militants!! hahah I have no idea, what they have told our reformists during those negotiations but whatever it is, it cannot change our main policy and hostility against Americans. We will kill invader Americans whether in Persian gulf or in Iraq or any other places that they may make troubles for us.
2001, the year reformists had taken the whole political power in Iran through presidential and parliamentary elections. I told you above, during their democratic dominance in Iran, huge mistakes were made by them. I can mention for example, their talks with Americans, their sanctions on IRGC whom Americans called them hostile militants in Iran LOL, their treasons and mixing our Islamic culture with American dirty culture and etc. Their treason to Islamic concepts whether in or outside of Iran has hurt our fatherland, also our anti-Israel stance between Muslim nations was and marginalized the slogan of our revolution DESTROY ISRAEL. They are weak and fragile in politics, whole economic problems, dependence on western powers are all their mistakes. Our oil based economy was designed by them and always gives a leverage to western powers which makes them able of sanctioning our economy whenever they want.
Here you can see their , reformists , treason about negotiations with Americans about Afghani issue :
http://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/673221/فیلم-روایتی-از-همکاری-دولت-اصلاحات-با-آمریکا-در-جنگ-افغانستان
The guy says that reformist governors cooperated with Americans without permission of leadership. He mentions that the way of negotiations with US ambassador and working with them despite our major policy and hostility against Americans, gave a weak image of Iran to American leadership. Bro, that was treason not only to Iranian leadership but whole Islamic world. Perhaps wishful thinking idiots imagined , by those ordinary and little cooperations, Americans will be kind to them in the future. Right after reformists' coop with Americans, however it was not a big and considerable collaboration because of it's civil aspects means that we had no military collaboration with Americans, G.W.Bus the bastard of all times appeared on media and called Iran axis of evil hahhah. That was a rebuke to the people who put their faith in Satanist Zionists the leadership of USA.

The same root was being passed by current semi reformist government and this was the response of our leadership :
www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-us-talks-idUSKCN0S10P220151007

Idiots will never learn, there must be a leverage on them. American ambassador called us militants who put pressure on Rouhani's government LOL. FYI These militants believe in Islamic unity, they are Iranians and Ali Khamenei leads them.


@The SC
In this quote, there is a funny fact.
Americans have presence in Pakistan not to mention and their corrupt leadership have no problem with it. They permitted Americans to use their soil against Afghani Mujahids, ISI's cooperations with CIA.

Egypt wasn't an angel, you have recognized Israel in the peace treaty with them.

What is your respond to my claims?

Your governments are still betraying Ummah concept. How does this guy dare to say something like that?

I believe in the Muslim Ummah, and so do hundreds of millions of Muslims.. maybe more than a billion..but to be honest and due to circumstances and ground realities.. these pragmatic policies by most Muslim leaders can be understood in their own contexts.. let's take for example these little Iranian coop with the US.. they have led to these Nuclear negotiations on a grand scale, and will help Iran get rid of all sanctions imposed on it.. otherwise, it could go for another 35 or 40 years, so all in all, there are important pros to these objective stances..The same applies to many other Muslim countries who keep close relationships with the US..most of them show some positives in their economies.. it is (maybe) sad, but it is reality as it is now, no one can escape it when you see that powerful nations Like China and Russia also have important and pragmatic relationships with this number one economy and military power nation..

 

[Muhammed45]

I believe in the Muslim Ummah, and so do hundreds of millions of Muslims.. maybe more than a billion..but to be honest and due to circumstances and ground realities.. these pragmatic policies by most Muslim leaders can be understood in their own contexts.. let's take for example these little Iranian coop with the US.. they have led to these Nuclear negotiations on a grand scale, and will help Iran get rid of all sanctions imposed on it.. otherwise, it could go for another 35 or 40 years, so all in all, there are important pros to these objective stances..The same applies to many other Muslim countries who keep close relationships with the US..most of them show some positives in their economies.. it is (maybe) sad, but it is reality as it is now, no one can escape it when you see that powerful nations Like China and Russia also have important and pragmatic relationships with this number one economy and military power nation..

Please, don't mistake the 5+1 group with USA.
We had to go for that negotiation since whole the world was going to believe that Iran is developing NUKEs. Although we could still resist and tolerate the sanctions but a great number of our folks were under economic pressure , again the reason was the damned oil based economy. Americans with their MSM started a big campaign against Iran's nuclear program, one side was USA's lackeys plus a great number of deceived governments including Muslim countries and on the other side Iran was truly alone. In fact there was a world wide union against Iran's nuclear program. However i didn't agree with surrendering it like our reformists did but negotiating with whole world was an undeniable truth. Finally the agreement was signed and IAEA approved the peaceful aspects of Iran's nuclear program. Actually Americans failed, again!. The deal was to show that we were right and Americans were liars. With keeping the reformist group away from falling into USA's trap once again and barring direct negotiating with USA .
Still we can fight USA in the region lonely, but as i told you before, Muslim countries with American military bases within are a big problem. How can we deal with it? I can only put my faith in Muslim folks and their revolution, which can awaken Muslim masses. That's the only way of liberating Palestine and ending wars between Muslim countries e.g. KSA's attack on Yemen and by some extents Qatar.
Everyone of Muslims are responsible for the pain of Palestinian folks, remember She'ebe Abi Taleb and the pain that our prophet (PBUH) tolerated, his beloved wife (AS) died of hunger in She'eb, a woman who was one of the most wealthy women in Arab world. We should be like him, i know bro, it is hard. Not everyone can tolerate it, IMHO it is easier to tolerate hunger and die for liberation of Palestine when you compare it with Yaum ul Hashr where Allah will ask us for our negligence about the death of Muslims in Palestine. No one can escape from that day, i see it close and what a hard day it is!. I am doing the least that a Muslim can do, cleaning the racial, religious differences between Muslim folks and tryiing to unite them. However it was one of the most important goals of our revolution and i have learnt it from Imam Khomeini (RA). Israel is a cancer, with or without considering USA's role, we must fight it.
Imam Hossein (AS) : مَوتٌ فی عِزٍّ خَیرٌ مِن حَیاةٍ فی ذُلٍّ
Have good day bro, i'm done with this thread.

 

[Tokhme khar]

shut up.......mind your own hindu-pak business.

That time is not far, when Iraqis will realize their mistake and will push you out.

 

[BATMAN]

shut up.......mind your own hindu-pak business.

 

[SubWater]

Jihadi Batman and his grand mufti picture
ABU IVANKA AL AMERIKI

before exploding yourself please read last tweet of your grand mufti and enjoy

https://twitter.com/x/status/890260758050856961

Takbir .... BOOM

and we in Iran