Iran continues 'illegal coercion' and detention of ship, India fumes

[Flat_Top56]

Given our track record of putting out LDP,destroyer and frigate. It will not take long.

Yea, those LPD's came out fairly quick for a developing country with little experience in this regard, but the fact of the matter is, you only built three. San Antonio-class are being commissioned at a rate of two per year.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Liaoning is a metal junk and more useful as a casino. Even Chinese don't consider it as A/C fir for battle. Its only to be used for training.

Vikrant is a real carrier to be used for active service.

You do not have start and end dates for your own carrier completion? then how can you say it would be on time?

Funny, this remind me of how Indians asked China about "When China will have plane that can land into Loaning?" last years


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[Beast]

India should use Brahmos to attack Iran. India brag about Brahmos more than any other weapon. Call it the world's best and most advance missile. Its time to backup that talk with action. Iran present the perfect opportunity and it has nuclear reactors that need to be taken out. lets see if India is all talk and no action or it can do something with the Brahmos.



The point its use for bragging in online forum. I won't be surprise that many Indian in here serve in its own military and like to brag about some of its "secret" projects.

Too bad bragging can't win real wars..

Yea, those LPD's came out fairly quick for a developing country with little experience in this regard, but the fact of the matter is, you only built three. San Antonio-class are being commissioned at a rate of two per year.

Still better than Indian ship capabilities who brag about building a 30% complete carrier and think She is already ahead of everyone in Asia, right?

 

[timetravel]

No the point is the Chinese hide their pathetic delays. Their engine (planned completion 2010) could be complete in 1990, 2000, 2010, 2020, 2030,2040 but it would still be on time. They would have never told the public that the planned date would be 1990. One fine day in 2050 they would start celebrating their on time engine.

They hide their incompetency and to hide it they show the project only when its complete. No one knows when it started and when was it supposed to end.

Chinese are making fools of their people. If I ask what is the progress on the project? The Chinese would never give an answer because the incompetent people are incapable to fix a date.

 

[faithfulguy]

Too bad bragging can't win real wars..



Still better than Indian ship capabilities who brag about building a 30% complete carrier and think She is already ahead of everyone in Asia, right?

And a lot of people believe them. India do win bragging war in this forum. No other country can come close as India is the sole superpower in this area.

 

[Beast]

No the point is the Chinese hide their pathetic delays. Their engine could be complete in 1990, 2000, 2010, 2020, 2030,2040 but it would still be on time.

They hide their incompetency and to hide it they show the project only when its complete. No one knows when it started and when was it supposed to end.

Chinese are making fools of their people. If I ask what is the progress on the project? The Chinese would never give an answer because the incompetent people are incapable to fix a date.

Are you describing India project? The more brave front you all try to put on. The more cracks and weakness India show.

Just like how India submarine blow up by itself.

 

[Flat_Top56]

Still better than Indian ship capabilities who brag about building a 30% complete carrier and think She is already ahead of everyone in Asia, right?

Sure, but I'd like to see Chinese deadlines, and how many times they are met. China has been more productive, there is no doubt about that, but we simply don't know how many times China has failed to meet her own predictions because such things are not published publicly.

 

[timetravel]

Sure, but I'd like to see Chinese deadlines, and how many times they are met. China has been more productive, there is no doubt about that, but we simply don't know how many times China has failed to meet her own predictions because such things are not published publicly.

More productive means they have produced more things. This is because their is bigger economy. but you do not know if even a single project finished on time.

Even the Chinese don't know. and if they ask they would be behind bars. Forecasting is a must in any project. The Chinese forecast and project planning is pathetic, and so they never tell their public. The Chinese have zero accountability towards their countrymen. The Chinese public is in complete dark about the projects and their progress. Only one word describes such situation. Pathetic.

Neither the govt. is willing to share the details of the progress of projects, neither the ignorant public capable to ask their govt.

 

[Beast]

Sure, but I'd like to see Chinese deadlines, and how many times they are met. China has been more productive, there is no doubt about that, but we simply don't know how many times China has failed to meet her own predictions because such things are not published publicly.

China and western works differently when comes to military sector. Most importantly we work in times.

Look at our space development. We meet our deadline set for our project most of the time. Changhe 1,2. Shenzhou mission...

 

[Flat_Top56]

More productive means they have produced more things. This is because their is bigger economy. but you do not know if even a single project finished on time.

Even the Chinese don't know. and if they ask they would be behind bars. Forecasting is a must in any project. The Chinese forecast and project planning is pathetic, and so they never tell their public. The Chinese have zero accountability towards their countrymen.

Political reform will give the Chinese citizen and the rest of the world a good understanding of how competent and efficient their government truly is.

I've always said that China would do much better with a Singaporean style system. I still think so.

 

[Beast]

More productive means they have produced more things. This is because their is bigger economy. but you do not know if even a single project finished on time.

Even the Chinese don't know. and if they ask they would be behind bars. Forecasting is a must in any project. The Chinese forecast and project planning is pathetic, and so they never tell their public. The Chinese have zero accountability towards their countrymen. The Chinese public is in complete dark about the projects and their progress. Only one word describes such situation. Pathetic.

Neither the govt. is willing to share the details of the progress of projects, neither the ignorant public capable to ask their govt.

What accountabilities do Indian have when you cant meet most of the deadline. Shall those project long be scrapped?

Political reform will give the Chinese citizen and the rest of the world a good understanding of how competent and efficient their government truly is.

I've always said that China would do much better with a Singaporean style system. I still think so.

That will be a later stages. China is still developing. When comes to politic and economic model. I am sure China leadership are sound and known whats the best for whole China.

Even comes to Singapore system , they are hardly transparent and in fact a semi autocratic and democratic style government. Many of the things are still not known to the public.

 

[Iggy]

Detention of ship purely technical and non-political issue: Iran to India


NEW DELHI: Iran on Friday asserted that detention of Indian tanker MT Desh Shanti was "purely a technical and non-political issue" and shipping authorities of two countries were engaged in constructive and positive interaction to resolve it as per international law as soon as possible.


Terming as "distorted" the reports about the incident, Iranian embassy here in a statement said the detention took place only because of the warning issued by the Marine Emergency Mutual Aid Center (MEMAC) which is affiliated to the Regional Organization for Protection of Maritime Environment (ROPME) in the Persian Gulf and the Oman Sea.

Detention of ship purely technical and non-political issue: Iran to India - Times Of India

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Sure, but I'd like to see Chinese deadlines, and how many times they are met. China has been more productive, there is no doubt about that, but we simply don't know how many times China has failed to meet her own predictions because such things are not published publicly.

I think there are projects that China didn't meet the deadlline realistic speaking, but we never show off an uncompleted project. Even with Laoning, we have wait until the detail paint job done before declare to the public for it first sea trial.

 

[timetravel]

What accountabilities do Indian have when you cant meet most of the deadline. Shall those project long be scrapped?



That will be a later stages. China is still developing. When comes to politic and economic model. I am sure China leadership are sound and known whats the best for whole China.

Even comes to Singapore system , they are hardly transparent and in fact a semi autocratic and democratic style government. Many of the things are still not known to the public.

later stages. When will those later stages come? Oops sorry you don't know am sure.

I think there are projects that China didn't meet the deadlline realistic speaking, but we never show off an uncompleted project. Even with Laoning, we have wait until the detail paint job done before declare to the public for it first sea trial.

where are the start and end deadlines first of all?
Meeting them is not even in consideration here as far as Chinese are concerned.

Do you know what stage is your A/C. Do you know when its supposed to complete? Do you know if its completed 10%, 20% or 50%? Then when it is released in 2020 or 2025 how do you know its on time? Let me guess everything in China is on time, as CCP said so.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

where are the deadlines first of all?

our deadline is when we finish it 100% and not 30%...that's chinese way of management