Iran and Israel, archenemies or potential friends?

[ihealugo]

Since there are many Arabs in Israel, it is easy to ask around what Arabs think about Iran. They think you are animals for supporting Assad and call you their second worst enemy, the first being Israel, of course. HAMAS has abandoned Syria and thus Iran cut off their funding and the West Bank Arabs think you do them more harm rather than good.

this had these feeling from when once they deafeted persian empire , they think we are their slave that became free!

 

[PteX]

this had these feeling from when once they deafeted persian empire , they think we are their slave that became free!

That is my point, they feel like you owe them your lives and should be subordinate to them.
If you write in google the phrase "Shia are..." the automatic results are "Shia are Kafir", "Shia are not Muslims", "Shia are wrong"... etc.

 

[ihealugo]

i know that oo , Ptex if just palestine people lived with israel , thing would be over , but if we don't fight for now , life will be boring wouldn't it ?

 

[Surenas]

Since there are many Arabs in Israel, it is easy to ask around what Arabs think about Iran. They think you are animals for supporting Assad and call you their second worst enemy, the first being Israel, of course. HAMAS has abandoned Syria and thus Iran cut off their funding and the West Bank Arabs think you do them more harm rather than good.

It's mutual:

Hatred of Arabs deeply rooted in Persians, says Iranian intellectual

The relationship between Arabs and Persians has always been a source of controversy, not only owing to the contemporary power struggle in the region, but also because of a long history of rivalry that formed an integral part of the national psyche of both people. Iranian intellectual Sadek Zibakalam provides deep insight into the different levels of this enduring animosity.

“I think the majority of Iranians of all types hate Arabs, and I believe they hate us, too,” Sadek Zibakalam, who is also a professor at the University of Tehran, said in an interview with the Iranian weekly Sobh Azade.

Zibakalam said there is a link between racism and a lack of education, and pointed out that this is the case in Europe, where people who express hatred against Jews or Muslims or foreigners are mostly uneducated. However, the situation tends to be different in Iran.

“The phenomenon of hating Arabs is very common among intellectuals in Iran,” he said.

He added that religious people also frequently express their resentment of Arabs, which usually comes in the form of curses directed at Sunnis.

“As a matter of fact, Iranians’ constant attacks on Sunnis stem from their hatred of Arabs.”

This hatred, Zibakalam argued, is not the product of the current hegemony conflict in the region, as many people might suspect, but has its roots in history.

“Persians will never forget their defeat at the hands of Arabs in the Battle of Qadisiya 1,400 years ago. It is as if a fire keeps seething under the ashes and is waiting for the right moment to explode,” he said.

Iran’s attempts to gain supremacy in the region are not triggered by political ambition as much as by a racist drive that pushes Iranians to prove they are superior, the professor said.

“Whenever Iran issues any fiery statement about our neighbors in the U.A.E, Qatar, or Kuwait, you can easily detect that they revolve around a belief that Persians are superior. Listen to our foreign minister, parliament speaker, or even mosque imams, and you will notice that derogatory tone they use and which focuses on the racial and not the political superiority of Persians.”

He cited the example of the U.A.E., which many Iranians, politicians and clergy derides in their statements.

“They would say that if Iranians just blow some air across the Persian Gulf, they would wipe the U.A.E off the map,” he said.

When asked whether the stance of the people is similar to that of the government as far as hatred of Arabs is concerned, Zibakalam replied in the affirmative.

“Yes, people are like the government, and may be even more racist and intolerant.”

For example, he said, when a couple of years ago the U.A.E said it was not going to drop its opposition to Iran’s occupation of three disputed Islands in the Gulf and referring to the “Persian Gulf,” large numbers of people rallied in front of the U.A.E embassy in Tehran with a cake that had 35 candles: they were making fun of the U.A.E’s 35-year history, compared to Iran’s 2,500.”

He added that Iranians also criticize their compatriots who travel to Arab countries. For example, they always ask why they would go and spend their money in Arab countries, while they never do the same with Turkey, where huge numbers of Iranians go.

“This even applies to religious trips to the Arab world, while if Mecca or Karbala were in Turkey or Malaysia, Iranians would not have a problem with people going there,” Zibakalam said.

He added that Persian racism against Arabs becomes very clear in language, and that the establishment of the Persian Language Institute was intended to carry out a plan to remove Arabic words from the Persian language.

“Arabic words that have been in the Persian language for more than 1,00 years would be removed even though they are mentioned in great literary works like The Shahnameh and the poetry of Rumi, all of which are parts of our history.”

 

[ihealugo]

But israel is the same as iran in one thing :
both want to make their safety by their own tech and manpower ! but others ...

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

For your information, Khomeini offered that to Yaser Arafat (if I'm not mistaken) that Palestinians come and settle in Khuzestan province of Iran, but Arafat didn't accept.
...

Thanks, I did not know.

it does make complete sense for YA to not accept, it would have left him for no reason to fight his cause.

 

[Surenas]

Thanks, I did not know.

it does make complete sense for YA to not accept, it would have left him for no reason to fight his cause.

I'm glad he refused. What in god's name should we do with thousands of Palestinians? They only cause misery. They are better treated in Israel than in Jordan or Syria.

 

[ihealugo]

I'm glad he refused. What in god's name should we do with thousands of Palestinians? They only cause misery. They are better treated in Israel than in Jordan or Syria.

i forgot something , about 2 million afghans are in iran , so this for abii that told we need to help them (no we must kick their as$ they killed many iranians for money , or they killed girls for their jewls ! )
and we wouldn't have problem to deal with about 10,000 of them but more could be a treat for our security !

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Israel and Iran will be buddies one day . Both the country's leaders just need to be little more tactful rather than sabre rattling and confrontational .Sounds unlikely today , but we will most certainly see it in a few decades .

 

[Surenas]

i forgot something , about 2 million afghans are in iran , so this for abii that told we need to help them (no we must kick their as$ they killed many iranians for money , or they killed girls for their jewls ! )
and we wouldn't have problem to deal with about 10,000 of them but more could be a treat for our security !

Yes, there are many Afghans in Iran. Some cause trouble, but most of them work hard. We should keep working with Afghanistan to make at least Eastern-Afghanistan save enough so these people can slowly return.

 

[PteX]

i know that oo , Ptex if just palestine people lived with israel , thing would be over , but if we don't fight for now , life will be boring wouldn't it ?

********.com - Hamas Official Admits "Palestinians" are not from Israel!
Unlike Persians who are an ancient people, there never was anything called "Palestinian" before 67'.
They even admit it.

 

[Surenas]

********.com - Hamas Official Admits "Palestinians" are not from Israel!
Unlike Persians who are an ancient people, there never was anything called "Palestinian" before 67'.
They even admit it.

Besides the Arabs in your country, what do ordinary Israeli's thinks of Iranians?

 

[IranZamin]

Besides the Arabs in your country, what do ordinary Israeli's thinks of Iranians?

who gives a s.hit what a bunch of immigrated gypsys think about our country. It seems you care alot, but you forgot these people are nobody, they are just imported from crappy EU countries into Palestine and they get Israeli passports

 

[Surenas]

who gives a s.hit what a bunch of immigrated gypsys think about our country. It seems you care alot, but you forgot these people are nobody, they are just imported from crappy EU countries into Palestine and they get Israeli passports

I care. At least those 'immigrated gypsies' have turned their country in a oasis of civilization in a sea of backwardness.

 

[ihealugo]

well , if we return to qur'an israel existed from a long time ago but they were seprated because Moses commanded them . now they are back in their lands , it's no problem but the important thing is how they came back ...

with murdering ...