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I find it quite amusing that on Pakistan Defense Forum an Irani moderator allows his fellow Irani ppl to threaten, ridicule, abuse Pakistan.

But can not take a little joke made about Iran and starts issuing warnings, infractions etc to Pakistani members.

Well... amusing! Do you find it amusing too @waz, @Indus Pakistan @Oscar @Horus @Slav Defence

Are we going to allow PDF becoming a propaganda tool like Fars News etc?

If we are to ban members for chest thumping and threatening each other, nuking each other (which I suppose too many Pakistani members like to do) from behind monitors, then we should ban +90% of Pakistani members as well as Iranian members and, let's just say it, 90% of all forum members.

This is indeed a Pakistani forum whose staff have also decided to have mods from other nationalities as well. If you don't like that, you can raise the issue in GHQ section. Meanwhile, you can also keep yourself from trolling and posting posts of no value which are against forum rules.

About me being Iranian, well I believe I have been the harshest here towards Iranian trolls or those who post spams. Being a mod here for nearly 7 years, I have learned a thing or two about dealing with trolls, regardless of nationality.

@The Eagle @WebMaster @Horus
This is the thread, over which he is going nuts, and supporting Mullah rhetoric.

A Pakistani Forum, supporting mullah rhetoric, hmmmmm.....

The easier approach, for you as a 'professional' member would be not to share totally off topic posts in a thread which is, again, against forum rules.
If you believe you didn't deserve a 'soft warning' for your post, raise the issue in GHQ section.
 
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If we are to ban members for chest thumping and threatening each other, nuking each other (which I suppose too many Pakistani members like to do) from behind monitors, then we should ban +90% of Pakistani members as well as Iranian members and, let's just say it, 90% of all forum members.

This is indeed a Pakistani forum whose staff have also decided to have mods from other nationalities as well. If you don't like that, you can raise the issue in GHQ section. Meanwhile, you can also keep yourself from trolling and posting posts of no value which are against forum rules.

About me being Iranian, well I believe I have been the harshest here towards Iranian trolls or those who post spams. Being a mod here for nearly 7 years, I have learned a thing or two about dealing with trolls, regardless of nationality.

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There are at least two Irani members who are very hostile towards Pakistan and write very insulting posts. It is not just about nuking etc.

And their posts stay and they go on writing more with immunity.

Now I understand your pov, but I think it would be fair to expect that same rules are applied to them and they are not allowed to ridicule Pakistan as well.

Or at least have the courtesy to take jokes if you think they should be allowed to make fun of us.
 
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To all those thinking they are funny, which they obviously are not, a pre-warning or infraction was issued. Next time, it's an infraction for all.

Hi, naturally, the thread was not intended to offend or insult but for an unknown reason spread into political satire, which I also engaged in. The comments were mild, but the moderator made the correct decision on cleaning up the thread, considering the topic is not a light matter.
 
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they helped the yanks with toppling taliban and today they cannot make up their mind!!
And what did Pakistan under Musharaf do in 2001? Give land, air, sea bridges to USA to invade Afghanistan and even handed over PAF Jacobabad, PAF Shamsi to USAF.

If we are to ban members for chest thumping and threatening each other, nuking each other (which I suppose too many Pakistani members like to do) from behind monitors, then we should ban +90% of Pakistani members as well as Iranian members and, let's just say it, 90% of all forum members.

This is indeed a Pakistani forum whose staff have also decided to have mods from other nationalities as well. If you don't like that, you can raise the issue in GHQ section. Meanwhile, you can also keep yourself from trolling and posting posts of no value which are against forum rules.

About me being Iranian, well I believe I have been the harshest here towards Iranian trolls or those who post spams. Being a mod here for nearly 7 years, I have learned a thing or two about dealing with trolls, regardless of nationality.



The easier approach, for you as a 'professional' member would be not to share totally off topic posts in a thread which is, again, against forum rules.
If you believe you didn't deserve a 'soft warning' for your post, raise the issue in GHQ section.
Salam, Sep., not seen you around here for a while. Hope everything is cool.
 
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Iran Almost Invaded Afghanistan in 1998

Tehran avoided a potentially costly war

https://warisboring.com/iran-almost-invaded-afghanistan-in-1998/

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In late 1998 Iran readied its armed forces for an invasion of Afghanistan. Last-ditch diplomacy defused tensions and prevented a potentially destructive conflict.

On Aug. 8, 1998, the Taliban, which then ruled around 90 percent of Afghanistan, seized the city of Mazar-e-Sharif. During the invasion, Taliban forces murdered 10 Iranian diplomats and a journalist in the city’s Iranian consulate.

On Sept. 3 the Taliban released five Iranian truck drivers it had taken hostage, but denied knowledge of the diplomats’ fates. Three days later, U.S. spy satellites spotted 70,000 Iranian troops and 150 tanks massing on the Afghanistan border.

“They’ve got some forces assembled and they’re making noises,” one anonymous U.S. intelligence source told the Associated Press. “They certainly are positioned for something.”

One week later, Taliban leader Mullah Omar in a letter to United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan admitted the Taliban had killed the Iranian diplomats during the takeover of Mazar-e-Sharif. But Omar blamed renegade members for the massacre.

Iranians were eager for revenge. War seemed unavoidable. “I think that whether we like it or not, we are heading toward some kind of military confrontation with the Taliban,” remarked Sadegh Zibakalam, Tehran University’s professor of politics.

One hard-line Iranian newspaper argued that while Tehran needed to teach the Taliban a lesson, “this lesson must follow a thorough understanding of all the aspects and consequences.”

Omar’s admission that the Taliban killed the diplomats raised tensions by mid-September. Even though the Iranian military’s border presence rapidly rose, peaking at 200,000 on Sept. 20, Western diplomats doubted that Iran actually would launch a direct military assault. At best, they predicted, Tehran would support an assault by 8,000 anti-Taliban Afghan fighters Iran also was assembling on the border.

However, anti-Afghan proxies arguably would have posed little real danger to the Taliban. Factions that Iran supported against the Taliban in the Afghan civil war, such as the Shi’ite Hezb-i-Wahdat group, primarily were based in Bamiyan province, situated in the center of the country hundreds of miles from the Iranian border.

To make matters worse, the Taliban captured the provincial capital of Bamiyan during its stand-off with Iran.

Afghans invoked the disastrous Soviet war in the country, which had ended 10 years earlier with a demoralized Red Army withdrawing from the country. “As thousands of Iranian troops mass across the border, Afghans are preparing to turn their land into the inhospitable host that has doomed invading armies over the centuries,” Dexter Filkins reported in The Los Angeles Times in early October 1998.

“Afghan history is replete with examples of how our people sacrificed everything to defend their country,” Mullah Ajahjan Mutaasim, commander of Afghan forces on the country’s western border with Iran, told Filkins. “The Russians know this. They attacked us and got a fitting reply.”

Were Iran to have launched an incursion and captured the city of Herat, which is close to its border and has a Sh’iite Muslim minority, Naseerullah Babaar, a former Pakistani general and a Taliban founder, predicted doom for Tehran.

“Even if Iran could take Herat, then what?” Babaar asked. “If they then tried to move out from there, they would get bogged down like the Russians. They would be stuck trying to defend themselves in Herat. It’s not possible.”

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At top — BBC reporters with the Taliban in 1998. BBC capture. Above — Al Qaeda celebrates in 1999. CNN capture

A Middle East analyst in Islamabad also expressed doubt that Tehran recklessly would send its troops into the country. “The Taliban are so poor they have nothing to lose and would fight for years. On the other hand, Iranian leaders have stirred up such a storm of emotions they cannot back down now. We expect some kind of strike, but not a full-scale war.”

Facing nine divisions of the Iranian army were dug-in Taliban forces numbering just 10,000. But thousands more armed Afghans were taking up arms to resist any potential Iranian attack.

“There is no question that Iran has the capacity to attack,” said James Rubin, a U.S. State Department spokesman. “Whether they do or not is another question.”

“We are not worried about Iran,” Taliban spokesman Wakil Ahmed Mutawakil said. “Iran will not attack.”

Nevertheless, the Taliban leaders announced that if Iran did attack, they would fire surface-to-surface missiles over the border at Iranian cities. Religious scholars told Afghans that any Iranian attack would justify jihad against Iran.

Afghans briefly set aside their disagreements to face a common external threat. The Taliban even handed out guns to civilians living in the border regions with Iran.

Some predicted a region-wide sectarian war if Iran invaded, since it would pit Shia Iran against Afghanistan’s Sunni-majority population. “This would be divisive for the Muslim world,” argued Moshahid Hussein, Pakistan’s communications minister. “This is the most strategically volatile area in the world.”

Babaar speculated that the tribesmen of northeast Pakistan, who are ethnic Pashtuns like most of the Taliban’s members are, would fight Iranian troops. Then India, Pakistan’s long-time foe, would clamp down harder on Muslim separatists in the disputed Kashmir region in a bid to distract Pakistan.

Iran sought to disentangle itself from a possible war with Afghanistan while simultaneously saving face. Mohammad Khatami, Iran’s president at that time, went to the United Nations General Assembly seeking assistance from the international community.

Javad Zarif, then Iran’s deputy foreign minister, called on the U.N. Security Council and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation to play a more active role in resolving the crisis. “The military build-up in Iran is prepared to defend our national interests by all means necessary,” he said. “But we have a strong preference for a diplomatic solution.”

On Oct. 8, 1998, Tehran claimed its army on the border fought a three-hour battle with the Taliban and killed several of its fighters. The Taliban denied any close fighting had taken place but claimed that Iran launched cross-border artillery bombardments over the course of the preceding three days.

Following over a week of shuttle diplomacy Lakhdar Brahimi, a U.N. special envoy, said that tensions had abated and that the prospect of war likely had passed. After meeting with Brahimi, the Taliban released 26 Iranian prisoners.

Iran and the Taliban held talks in Dubai the following February. During the talks, Taliban spokesman Mutawakil told the Iranians that his group intended to punish the diplomats’ murderers.
Would that Iran invaded Afghanistan back then....afsoos aysa nahien howa.
 
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Many off topic posts removed and warnings issued to those participating in it.

There are at least two Irani members who are very hostile towards Pakistan and write very insulting posts. It is not just about nuking etc.

And their posts stay and they go on writing more with immunity.

Now I understand your pov, but I think it would be fair to expect that same rules are applied to them and they are not allowed to ridicule Pakistan as well.

Or at least have the courtesy to take jokes if you think they should be allowed to make fun of us.

As I said above, warnings have been issued to ALL members participating in this, not just Pakistani members.

And I don't have any problems with any jokes, believe me, I don't even care as long as they obey forum rules.
 
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I think it would be prudent at this point just to close off the thread entirely: nothing of value will come out of it anyways.

Such a threads come out of members daily period !
 
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http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9809/15/iran.afghan.tensions.02/index.html

Taliban threatens retaliation if Iran strikes

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Iranian military on alert

September 15, 1998
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TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- The war of words between Iran and Afghanistan's militant Taliban escalated into more serious threats Tuesday, as the Taliban warned its military would retaliate if Iran attacked Afghanistan.

"Iran must know that if the soil of Afghanistan is attacked, we will target Iranian cities and the entire responsibility will rest with Iranian authorities," Taliban spokesman Wakil Ahmed told the independent Afghan Islamic Press.

"We do not want a war with Iran, but if Iran attacks we will take all possible necessary measures," Ahmed added.

The Taliban warning comes after Iran's leading religious leader Tuesday put the country's military on alert in a further escalation of the crisis with Afghanistan over the killing of Iranian diplomats there.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, successor to the Ayatollah Khomeini and commander-in-chief of the country's half-million-strong armed forces, told senior commanders of the Revolutionary Guards "The situation of Afghanistan is a highly crucial issue."

Bodies of diplomats returned

He spoke only hours after the bodies of seven Iranian diplomats, killed when they were caught up in factional fighting in Afghanistan five weeks ago, were brought back to emotional scenes at Tehran's international airport.

Iranian President Mohammad Khatami, heading thousands of tearful mourners including Cabinet ministers, top armed forces officers, international diplomats and bereaved relatives, said at a solemn airport ceremony on Monday night: "I assure you that we will defend the integrity and honor of the sacred system of the Islamic Republic of Iran to the best of our ability."

The fundamentalist Taliban on Thursday admitted killing the diplomats during the takeover of the northern Afghan city of Mazar-i-Sharif, the capital of Afghan opposition to the Taliban. Taliban said the diplomats were killed by militiamen acting without instruction from the government.

Iran wants to try those responsible

Iran wants those responsible for the deaths of the diplomats to be tried in Iranian courts, but the Taliban said that, if the killers are caught, they will be tried in Afghanistan.

Khamenei demanded on Monday that Pakistan, which Iran holds partly responsible for the murders, drop its support of the Taliban. Pakistan has called on Iran and Afghanistan to exercise restraint, but says it is not responsible for what happens in Afghanistan.

Pakistan was the first of only three countries to recognize the Taliban government, and as many as 40 percent of the militia members studied in religious schools in Pakistan.

Ahmed responded to Khamenei's statements, saying that Iran is blatantly interfering in Afghanistan's internal affairs and that the language used by Khamenei is unbecoming of his status and reflects "his mental ineptitude."

Iran has massed tens of thousands of troops on the Afghanistan border and threatened live fire exercises since the diplomats were killed.

Iran says Shiites were massacred

Iran says that thousands of Shiite Muslims were massacred in Mazar-i-Sharif when the Taliban took the city from Afghan forces opposed to the Taliban. Amnesty International and the United Nations have supported the Iranian claim.

The Iranians are predominately Shiite Muslims while the Taliban group which has been conquering Afghanistan over the past several years is a Sunni Islamic group which is less tolerant in its attitudes than most Sunnis. The conflicts between the Sunni and Shiite divisions of Islam are considerable, and along the Iran-Afghanistan border they involve ethnic or tribal differences as well.

Analysts said they didn't believe Iran is preparing for a full-scale attack on the Taliban, but did not rule out limited strikes into Afghanistan, where the Taliban hold about 90 percent of the country.

Correspondent Peter Bergen and Reuters contributed to this report.



IRAN: EXECUTION OF DIPLOMATS IN AFGHANISTAN MOURNED


Eng/Farsi/Nat Iran has gone into official mourning over the deaths of nine of its diplomats and one journalist who were executed by Taliban forces in Afghanistan one month ago. Vowing it will avenge the killings, Iran has announced that it will be sending 200-thousand more troops for war games on the Afghan border. Iran, meanwhile, is expecting the Taliban authorities to handover the diplomats' bodies on Monday. Black flags and banners line the streets of Tehran and hang from buildings. They mark three days of mourning for the nine Iranian diplomats and one journalist who were executed by Taliban forces in Afghanistan a month ago. On nearly every street corner, the traditional Martyr's shrine with its neatly coloured light-bulbs and photos are displayed to inform passersby of the murders. People have been gathering for various mourning ceremonies and to listen to sermons by religious leaders. But there is also anger and calls for revenge on the streets - and the government have accused Afghanistan of committing "war crimes." Seemingly unperturbed by the grim memories of eight years of war with Iraq, the anger and sentiments are such that more bloodshed is seen as necessary. A mother of a soldier killed in the war with Iraq doesn't believe he died in vain. SOUNDBITE: (Farsi) "Of course this is a U-S conspiracy! As a Martyr's mother, I declare that I am willing to give my other children too for the path of Islam and Revolutionary Islam and for the innocent of the innocents." SUPER CAPTION: Mother of a Martyr But others - like this man taking part in Friday prayers - are more cautious. SOUNDBITE: (Farsi) "We must obey our leaders and not show a rash reaction, this is what they want, to humiliate us." SUPER CAPTION: Man at demonstration Iran's respected religious leader, and former President, Hashemi Rafsanjani, has taken on the responsibility to comfort the families of the martyrs and to promise revenge. He used the weekly Friday prayer's sermon to attack the Taliban. SOUNDBITE: (Farsi) "The Taliban have been lying to us for one month not telling us about the murders. They have planned to draw Iran into the trap of making rash decisions." SUPER CAPTION: Former President Hashemi Rafsangani He then called for revenge and his words were widely reported in the Iranian media. SOUNDBITE: (Farsi) "I commiserate with the family of the murdered martyrs. I promise them that the blood of their children will be avenged. They will see themselves that we will avenge the death of their kids." SUPER CAPTION: Former President Hashemi Rafsangani Promises for revenge seem to have been taken seriously by the Iranian armed forces. Tanks and more than two hundred thousand Revolutionary Guards are already positioned on the border with Afghanistan - and hunreds of thousands now look set to join them. The country's military is confident. SOUNDBITE: (Farsi) "The Taliban are so pathetic that we do not need all our troops to wipe them out. But if we are to punish anyone, at any time, we will do so forcefully." SUPER CAPTION: Military Commander The question now is - can the President Khatami's government, already besieged and troubled by many internal political problems, deal with another major international crisis? Iranian journalist and political analyst Jahangir Jahanbagloo doubts another conflict is around the corner. SOUNDBITE: (Farsi) SUPER CAPTION: Jahangir Jahanbagloo, journalist and political analyst Meanwhile on Sunday, Afghanistan's religious rulers rejected an Iranian demand to turn over the renegade Taliban soldiers responsible the killings.

AFGHAN/IRANIAN BORDER: TALIBAN BUILDING UP THEIR FORCES


Pashtu/Natsound Rare video footage taken on the Afghan-Iranian border shows that the ruling Taliban still seem to be building up their forces there. Taliban leaders say they have moved 20-thousand troops to the border in response to what they call Iran's war games. The Taliban has banned media from Afghanistan but recent pictures from the country show people eeking out a harsh existence under the ever-watchful eye of the armed Taliban militia. A member of the Taliban prays by his tank. Religion and armed force go hand-in-hand in this war-torn country. These pictures, shot clandestinely, are the first in many months to show the bleak existence led by Afghanistan's long-suffering people. The hard-line Taliban controls most of Afghanistan. The office of its leader, Mullah Omar, is in this street in Jalalabad. The Taliban also control the capital Kabul - these pictures show the battering the city has taken over the years of fighting. In a recent string of victories, the Taliban has captured many key areas from the opposition alliance including the strategic city of Mazar-e-Sharif. Most of the Taliban, or students of Islam, are Sunni Pashtuns. The opposition alliance comprises various ethnic and religious minorities including the Shiites, Tajiks, Uzbeks and Hazaras. The Taliban has banned foreign media from entering the country and as a result it has been difficult for the outside world to get a look into the strict Islamic country for some time now. From this footage close to the border with Iran, it is clear that the Taliban is building up its forces after renewed threats from Tehran that it will attack. The threat follows the killings of eight Iranian diplomats and an Iranian journalist by the Taliban after the August 8th capture of the northern Afghan city of Mazar-e-Sharif. The Taliban has moved 20-thousand troops to the border and military vehicles can be seen lined up in areas close to its border with Iran. The Iranian armed forces held military exercises on the border with Afghanistan on Wednesday, which could heighten tensions along the border of the two countries. But the Taliban say they have no worries. SOUNDBITE: (English) "We don't want any interference in our domestic issues and we should be allowed to live the way we want to and if anyone interferes we know how to respond to them." SUPER CAPTION: Taliban member These recent pictures also show a rare sight - landmarks and sights in Herat province. This mosque is over 600 years old and is still in good condition. Photography is also prohibited here and anyone caught taking pictures would be jailed and have their camera destroyed. Corruption is widespread - the vehicles on the roadside are said to have been smuggled from Europe and are sold at a tenth of the price. Along the street is the Herat stadium - where the Taliban regularly carries out public executions. Poverty is rife in the country. In the Loghar province refugees make a home of sorts near a lake. There are constant reminders of the Taliban everywhere. Fighting has been raging in Afghanistan since the Soviet Union invaded in 1979 - they withdrew ten years later and a coalition of Muslim rebel forces crushed the country's communist regime in 1992 . Since the Taliban started fighting three years ago it has promised to bring peace to the region - but people in the country say this promise has yet to become a reality.

IRAN: BODIES OF IRANIANS KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN ARRIVE HOME


Natural Sound Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has ordered the military and top civilian officials put on full alert, hours after the bodies of seven Iranians killed in neighbouring Afghanistan arrived home. Tensions between Iran and Afghanistan have been running high since the Taliban Islamic militia admitted last Thursday to killing eight Iranian diplomats and a journalist last month. Iran has gone into official mourning over the killings and has vowed to avenge them. Amid calls for a retaliatory strike on Afghanistan, the bodies of seven Iranians killed by the hardline Taliban arrived home late Monday night. The dead were diplomats and a state news agency reporter working in the former anti-Taliban stronghold of Mazar-e-Sharif. The Taliban militia captured the desert city on August 8 and admitted last week that 8 Iranian diplomats and the reporter were killed in the siege. Iran has massed tens of thousands of troops on its border with Afghanistan, and there have been widespread calls for revenge. President Mohammad Khatami was on hand for the arrival ceremony, where weeping relatives grieved for their dead. Remains of the seven Iranians returned were carried off a military plane by Iran's honour guard. It was not clear when or if the other two bodies would be returned. The return came a day after Khamenei warned that the actions of the Taliban were leading to a regional crisis, and urged Muslim countries to intercede. Also on Monday, the Revolutionary Guard, Iran's elite fighting force, announced in a statement its readiness to take action. The Guard said it was awaiting orders from Khamenei, who is also commander-in-chief of Iran's armed forces. Iran has blamed Pakistan, widely seen as an ally of the Taliban, for the carnage in Afghanistan where thousand of died in the bloody civil war. Khamenei has said that unless Pakistan stops supporting the Taliban and persuades the militia's leaders to end the country's civil war, the entire region will be in danger. Pakistan denies it supports the hardline Islamic militia, which has banned women from work and education and forced men to grow beards in the 90 per cent of Afghanistan it controls. Analysts say the deaths of the nine Iranians may reflect a new Taliban policy targeting Shiite Muslims. Most Taliban are Sunni Muslims, while Iranians, and much of the Taliban's remaining opposition, adhere to the Shia sect of Islam. Iran, alleged to be backing the alliance fighting the Taliban, has urged the formation of a government uniting all Afghan factions and religious and ethnic backgrounds.

Iran - Military manoeuvres near Afghan border


T/I: 10:54:18 Iranian television has reported that major military exercises were expected to take place on the Iranian-Afghan border on Friday (02/10). This follows two weeks of tension on the border where Afghanistan's ruling Taliban movement is also building up forces. SHOWS: 1.05

Iran confrontation with Taliban at 1998 over killing diplomats in Mazar Sharif


Iran confrontation with Taliban ( Afghanistan ) at 1998 over killing diplomats in Mazar Sharif


Iran - Interior Minister Abdollah Nouri Impeached, Bodies Of Iranians Killed In Afghanistan Arrive


(9 Apr 2000) Iran - Interior minister Abdollah Nouri impeached 82282 APTV Tehran, Iran - 21 June 1998 Hard-line lawmakers impeached Iran's moderate interior minister. But President Mohammad Khatami swiftly countered by naming Abdollah Nouri to the newly created post of deputy president. Hard-liners backed by the Ayatollah Khomeini's successor, Ali Khamenei, have waged a campaign to discredit Mohammad Khatami and his allies since he became president. Thirty-one hard-line deputies started impeachment proceedings against Interior Minister Abdollah Nouri last month. They accused him of jeopardising the Islamic nation's stability and allowing a rally last month protesting the hard-line clergy's influence in Iran. General shot Majlis Majlis Speaker Nateq Nouri Various of Majlis members talking and conferring Various of Majlis members talking and conferring Majlis general shot Government Spokesman Mohajerani. Presidential Deputy Habibi and Minister Nouri Majlis member Mohajerani and Nouri Habibi pan to Mohajerani Nouri and deputy Speaker pull back to general shot Nouri takes stand Nouri speaking Iran - Bodies of Iranians killed in Afghanistan arrive home 88994 APTV Tehran, Iran - 14 September 1998 (SOUND QUALITY AS INCOMING) Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has ordered the military and top civilian officials put on full alert, hours after the bodies of seven Iranians killed in neighbouring Afghanistan arrived home. Tensions between Iran and Afghanistan have been running high since the Taliban Islamic militia admitted to killing eight Iranian diplomats and a journalist last month. Iran has gone into official mourning over the killings and has vowed to avenge them. Various unloading of coffins Families of killed diplomats holding photos of the dead Coffins pass President Mohammad Khatami Pull out of Khatami to wide shot Soldiers carrying coffins Crowd gather around Khatami shouting "Death to the Taliban" Iran - Military manoeuvres near Afghan border W008270 APTN Afghanistan/Iran Border - recent (Iranian commentary - logo in vision) Iranian television has reported that major military exercises were expected to take place on the Iranian-Afghan border on Friday (02/10). This follows two weeks of tension on the border where Afghanistan's ruling Taliban movement is also building up forces. Helicopter firing rockets; Rockets blowing up on ground; Various troops moving into trenches; Tank firing; Various helicopter firing rockets; Rockets exploding; Various tanks driving, helicopter flyover; Planes dropping missiles; Missiles explode
 
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White House Fight Against Terrorism Press Conference, Pakistan - Missile reaches wrong target, Execu


(31 Dec 1998) 86707 USA: White House Fight Against Terrorism Press Conference APTV/POOL Washington, D.C., United States - 20 August 1998 The United States has warned that its fight against terrorism won't end with Thursday's strikes on Sudan and Afghanistan. The Clinton administration says the attacks were aimed at a network of radical groups affiliated with Osama bin Laden. The U-S says bin Laden and his followers are believed to be responsible for a series of terrorist attacks that culminated with the embassy bombings in east Africa. But while top officials warn they won't back down from terrorists, they admit there is concern about possible retaliation attacks against U-S targets. Pool SOUNDBITE: (English) Madeleine Albright, U.S. Secretary of State "This is a long term battle that we are engaged with, fighting against a group of people who are determined to disrupt the way of life our society and others want to follow and that we believe this has been a very successful operation but it is a part of a long term battle against terrorism - the terrorists who have in fact declared war on us." APTV 2 Satellite photos of Afghanistan sites W006854 Pakistan - Missile reaches wrong target WTN Islamabad, Pakistan - 21 August 1998 (audio as incoming) A US missile aimed at suspected terrorist targets in Afghanistan slammed into a Pakistan border area killing up to six people and triggering an official protest according to a foreign office spokesman. The official protest came at the end of a day when religious activists burned US flags and torched effigies of US President Bill Clinton in demonstrations across Pakistan. Anti-US demonstrators gathering near US embassy; CU of demonstrators setting US flag alight; Demonstrators stamping on burning flag and chanting 88862 Iran - Execution of Diplomats in Afghanistan Mourned APTV Tehran - 11 September 1998 Iran has gone into official mourning over the deaths of nine of its diplomats and one journalist who were executed by Taliban forces in Afghanistan one month ago. Vowing it will avenge the killings, Iran has announced that it will be sending 200-thousand more troops for war games on the Afghan border. Iran, meanwhile, is expecting the Taliban authorities to handover the diplomats' bodies. Black flags and banners line the streets of Tehran and hang from buildings. Black mourning flags in Tehran streets People crying for the martyrs Crowd shouts "death to the Taliban" Hashemi Rafsanjani at Friday prayers sermon SOUNDBITE: (Farsi) Former president Hashemi Rafsanjani "The Taliban have been lying to us for one month not telling us about the murders. They have planned to draw Iran into the trap of making rash decisions." Exiled leader Burhanuddin Rabbani at prayers SOUNDBITE: (Farsi) Former president Hashemi Rafsanjani "I commiserate with the family of the murdered martyrs. I promise them that the blood of their children will be avenged. They will see themselves that we will avenge the death of their kids." 88994 Iran - Bodies of Iranians Killed in Afghanistan Arrives Home APTV Tehran, Iran - 14 September 1998 (sound quality as incoming) Soldiers carrying coffins Coffins pass President Mohammad Khatami Pull out of Khatami to wide shot Coffins passing Khatami Coffins being paraded W007957 USA - Taliban press conference demanding recognition APTN New York - 24 September 1998 (Audio as incoming) SOT, Abdul Hakeem Mujahid, Taliban ambassador to UN, in English: "Our demands is from the UN that to give the seat of Afghanistan to the Islamic Republic, the legitimate government of Afghanistan because after that we will take our obligations and we will take our responsibilities." 94516 Afghanistan - Taliban Declare Bin Laden Innocent APTN
 
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Iran Almost Invaded Afghanistan in 1998

Tehran avoided a potentially costly war

https://warisboring.com/iran-almost-invaded-afghanistan-in-1998/

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In late 1998 Iran readied its armed forces for an invasion of Afghanistan. Last-ditch diplomacy defused tensions and prevented a potentially destructive conflict.

On Aug. 8, 1998, the Taliban, which then ruled around 90 percent of Afghanistan, seized the city of Mazar-e-Sharif. During the invasion, Taliban forces murdered 10 Iranian diplomats and a journalist in the city’s Iranian consulate.

On Sept. 3 the Taliban released five Iranian truck drivers it had taken hostage, but denied knowledge of the diplomats’ fates. Three days later, U.S. spy satellites spotted 70,000 Iranian troops and 150 tanks massing on the Afghanistan border.

“They’ve got some forces assembled and they’re making noises,” one anonymous U.S. intelligence source told the Associated Press. “They certainly are positioned for something.”

One week later, Taliban leader Mullah Omar in a letter to United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan admitted the Taliban had killed the Iranian diplomats during the takeover of Mazar-e-Sharif. But Omar blamed renegade members for the massacre.

Iranians were eager for revenge. War seemed unavoidable. “I think that whether we like it or not, we are heading toward some kind of military confrontation with the Taliban,” remarked Sadegh Zibakalam, Tehran University’s professor of politics.

One hard-line Iranian newspaper argued that while Tehran needed to teach the Taliban a lesson, “this lesson must follow a thorough understanding of all the aspects and consequences.”

Omar’s admission that the Taliban killed the diplomats raised tensions by mid-September. Even though the Iranian military’s border presence rapidly rose, peaking at 200,000 on Sept. 20, Western diplomats doubted that Iran actually would launch a direct military assault. At best, they predicted, Tehran would support an assault by 8,000 anti-Taliban Afghan fighters Iran also was assembling on the border.

However, anti-Afghan proxies arguably would have posed little real danger to the Taliban. Factions that Iran supported against the Taliban in the Afghan civil war, such as the Shi’ite Hezb-i-Wahdat group, primarily were based in Bamiyan province, situated in the center of the country hundreds of miles from the Iranian border.

To make matters worse, the Taliban captured the provincial capital of Bamiyan during its stand-off with Iran.

Afghans invoked the disastrous Soviet war in the country, which had ended 10 years earlier with a demoralized Red Army withdrawing from the country. “As thousands of Iranian troops mass across the border, Afghans are preparing to turn their land into the inhospitable host that has doomed invading armies over the centuries,” Dexter Filkins reported in The Los Angeles Times in early October 1998.

“Afghan history is replete with examples of how our people sacrificed everything to defend their country,” Mullah Ajahjan Mutaasim, commander of Afghan forces on the country’s western border with Iran, told Filkins. “The Russians know this. They attacked us and got a fitting reply.”

Were Iran to have launched an incursion and captured the city of Herat, which is close to its border and has a Sh’iite Muslim minority, Naseerullah Babaar, a former Pakistani general and a Taliban founder, predicted doom for Tehran.

“Even if Iran could take Herat, then what?” Babaar asked. “If they then tried to move out from there, they would get bogged down like the Russians. They would be stuck trying to defend themselves in Herat. It’s not possible.”

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At top — BBC reporters with the Taliban in 1998. BBC capture. Above — Al Qaeda celebrates in 1999. CNN capture

A Middle East analyst in Islamabad also expressed doubt that Tehran recklessly would send its troops into the country. “The Taliban are so poor they have nothing to lose and would fight for years. On the other hand, Iranian leaders have stirred up such a storm of emotions they cannot back down now. We expect some kind of strike, but not a full-scale war.”

Facing nine divisions of the Iranian army were dug-in Taliban forces numbering just 10,000. But thousands more armed Afghans were taking up arms to resist any potential Iranian attack.

“There is no question that Iran has the capacity to attack,” said James Rubin, a U.S. State Department spokesman. “Whether they do or not is another question.”

“We are not worried about Iran,” Taliban spokesman Wakil Ahmed Mutawakil said. “Iran will not attack.”

Nevertheless, the Taliban leaders announced that if Iran did attack, they would fire surface-to-surface missiles over the border at Iranian cities. Religious scholars told Afghans that any Iranian attack would justify jihad against Iran.

Afghans briefly set aside their disagreements to face a common external threat. The Taliban even handed out guns to civilians living in the border regions with Iran.

Some predicted a region-wide sectarian war if Iran invaded, since it would pit Shia Iran against Afghanistan’s Sunni-majority population. “This would be divisive for the Muslim world,” argued Moshahid Hussein, Pakistan’s communications minister. “This is the most strategically volatile area in the world.”

Babaar speculated that the tribesmen of northeast Pakistan, who are ethnic Pashtuns like most of the Taliban’s members are, would fight Iranian troops. Then India, Pakistan’s long-time foe, would clamp down harder on Muslim separatists in the disputed Kashmir region in a bid to distract Pakistan.

Iran sought to disentangle itself from a possible war with Afghanistan while simultaneously saving face. Mohammad Khatami, Iran’s president at that time, went to the United Nations General Assembly seeking assistance from the international community.

Javad Zarif, then Iran’s deputy foreign minister, called on the U.N. Security Council and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation to play a more active role in resolving the crisis. “The military build-up in Iran is prepared to defend our national interests by all means necessary,” he said. “But we have a strong preference for a diplomatic solution.”

On Oct. 8, 1998, Tehran claimed its army on the border fought a three-hour battle with the Taliban and killed several of its fighters. The Taliban denied any close fighting had taken place but claimed that Iran launched cross-border artillery bombardments over the course of the preceding three days.

Following over a week of shuttle diplomacy Lakhdar Brahimi, a U.N. special envoy, said that tensions had abated and that the prospect of war likely had passed. After meeting with Brahimi, the Taliban released 26 Iranian prisoners.

Iran and the Taliban held talks in Dubai the following February. During the talks, Taliban spokesman Mutawakil told the Iranians that his group intended to punish the diplomats’ murderers.
Guess who would have saved 200,000 kidnapped Irani soldiers back then??
 
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"IRAN: EXECUTION OF DIPLOMATS IN AFGHANISTAN MOURNED"

Can someone give me a small history lesson? Was it not the current Mullah regime in Iran which had kidnapped/injured or even killed some of the american diplomats during their revolution?

Or am I mistaken? If not, then it sounds like Karma... a bad one thought.
 
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kidnapped/injured or even killed some of the american diplomats during their revolution?
I wanna to know the names & where they were kidnapped/injured or even killed.
 
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In all fairness, killing diplomats is not fine. Iran had the right to take any action. Taliban should have punished who did that.
 
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I wanna to know the names & where they were kidnapped/injured or even killed.

I don't know if Google is banned in Iran or not but...

Fifty-two American diplomats and citizens were held hostage for 444 days from November 4, 1979, to January 20, 1981, after a group of Iranian college students belonging to the Muslim Student Followers of the Imam's Line, who supported the Iranian Revolution, took over the U.S. Embassy in Tehran.

There is also a thread running about the knife wielding mob who attacked and held hostage British diplomats.

What else do you wanna know my friends? Their family names? how family backgrounds, how many times they married or got divorced? How many kids they had? Where they went to kindergarten/school and whom they had their first crush? What are their toilet routines? :-)

BTW, can you give us the names of those diplomats who were kidnapped by Talibans?
 
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