Invigilators strip two Dalit girls in exam hall

[lem34]

cuz hinduism belives in continuing cycle of birth, life, death and rebirth, if someone has born in a dalit house means he/she must have committed grave sins in her past life which he/she has to pay back in the current life to attain moksha,

i.e bottom of the story is if born as a dalit then someone must have committed grave sins in their pas life which needs to be paid back in current life to purify themselves..

Sir thank you for that informative and true explanation

 

[oFFbEAT]

cuz hinduism belives in continuing cycle of birth, life, death and rebirth, if someone has born in a dalit house means he/she must have committed grave sins in her past life which he/she has to pay back in the current life to attain moksha,

i.e bottom of the story is if born as a dalit then someone must have committed grave sins in their pas life which needs to be paid back in current life to purify themselves..

Yes that is the Hindu belief....

BUT, Hinduism is not the state religion of India....

Many evil practices of Hinduism have been banned by law....and that's why today, in India, you see people getting punished for holding such views and causing harm to other individuals based on it.......the conviction of the Perpetrators in this case is an example....

BUT, Pakistanis follow their religious book strictly......and that's why SECTARIANISM is so much prevalent in Pakistan.....due to which religious minorities are killed by masses....

 

[Peacefull]

Sir thank you for that informative and true explanation

You can call me Miss if you like.

 

[lem34]

Yes that is the Hindu belief....

BUT, Hinduism is not the state religion of India....

Many evil practices of Hinduism have been banned by law....and that's why today, in India, you see people getting punished for holding such views and causing harm to other individuals based on it.......the conviction of the Perpetrators in this case is an example....
...

Now then now then. Let me explain to you something. Your political leaders can legislate that London is a suburb of Dehli. And anyone who disagrees will be punished.

That does not change the location of London nor does it stop two dalit girls being stripped in the 21st century in India

You can call me Miss if you like.

Sorry Miss. You can call me whatever you want lol

 

[notsuperstitious]

Now then now then. Let me explain to you something. Your political leaders can legislate that London is a suburb of Dehli. And anyone who disagrees will be punished.

That does not change the location of London nor does it stop two dalit girls being stripped in the 21st century in India

You are a liar and a troll. As the invigilators in question have been terminated from their jobs and a police case has been filed against them under prevention of atrocities act - an act legislated by india that carried severe punishments, for protection of dalits.

Why then do you keep repeating that idiotic london example, do you suffer from some serious comprehension issues? Boy you are some weird broken record, repeating the same stuff over and over.

A crime is committed and the system adequately deals with it, this is how countries operate, despite your infinite repetitive rants that does not change.

 

[Peacefull]

Yes that is the Hindu belief....

BUT, Hinduism is not the state religion of India....

All the evil practices of Hinduism have been banned by law[/B]....and that's why today, in India, you see people getting punished for holding such views and causing harm to other individuals based on it.......the conviction of the Perpetrators in this case is an example....

BUT, Pakistanis follows their religious book strictly......and that's why SECTARIANISM is so much prevalent in Pakistan.....due to which religious minorities are killed by masses....

I completely agree with you many of the evil practices like sati, child marriages, etc etc has been banned,

But the hindu philosophy is based on four castes correct me if i am wrong

1) Brahman
2) Khastriya
3) Vysha
4) Dalit,

Main goal of hinduism here to acheive moksha complete freedom and to attain it one must have to go through multiple cycles of life and birth,

i.e if someone is born dalit he must have committed grave sins in her past life
vice versa if someone is brahman tht means he must have committed some good deeds in thier past lives so they are born as brahmans gods decision

Just stating the obiviuos here based on my extensive research if i am wrong i would like to know when and how... thx in advance

On the other hand hinduism is not a state religion of india as india is a secular democracy agreed, but hinduism is a religion of majority of indians - and caste system is not in the indian law, as indian law protects its minorities it also protects its majority intersts so Hindus are free to practice their religion based on their sacred books and beliefs..

 

[Peacefull]

Hi mods whats wrong with this thread ? it seems i cant go to the 31 page ?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...ag-behind-then-other-minorities-india-30.html

 

[oFFbEAT]

Now then now then. Let me explain to you something. Your political leaders can legislate that London is a suburb of Dehli. And anyone who disagrees will be punished.

That does not change the location of London nor does it stop two dalit girls being stripped in the 21st century in India......

Ha ha ha....what childish logic.....

I have already stated earlier that, LAWS cannot make a country 100% crime free.....it can only act as a deterrent....

Human mind is unpredictable.....no-one can guarantee who will commit what crime next......science is not so developed yet....

Therefore making LAWS to intimidate criminal minds is the best people can do.......

BUT, I think, Pakistanis believe just the opposite......
Since LAWS cannot guarantee safety...therefore LAWS are useless.....so there is no need to make LAWS to protect the minorities in Pakistan...... what a tragedy......

 

[ashokdeiva]

I completely agree with you many of the evil practices like sati, child marriages, etc etc has been banned,

But the hindu philosophy is based on four castes correct me if i am wrong

1) Brahman
2) Khastriya
3) Vysha
4) Dalit,

Main goal of hinduism here to acheive moksha complete freedom and to attain it one must have to go through multiple cycles of life and birth,

i.e if someone is born dalit he must have committed grave sins in her past life
vice versa if someone is brahman tht means he must have committed some good deeds in thier past lives so they are born as brahmans gods decision

Just stating the obiviuos here based on my extensive research if i am wrong i would like to know when and how... thx in advance

On the other hand hinduism is not a state religion of india as india is a secular democracy agreed, but hinduism is a religion of majority of indians - and caste system is not in the indian law, as indian law protects its minorities it also protects its majority intersts so Hindus are free to practice their religion based on their sacred books and beliefs..

Sorry mate, your understanding is completly wrong, The vedas does not talk about caste based on any thing including varna. the enitire veda scripture is lost and only a very few remain.
Hinduism was introduced with these caste based on varna by elites and Raja Gurus who divided the people to establish their supremecy. and caste was primarly based on occupation.
1) Brahman -> people who occupty prist job
2) Khastriya -> PEOPLE who occupied warior job including being Rajas
3) Vysha -> people who were record keepers and adminstrative executives
4) Sudras(and not Dalits) => people who were scavangers who ensured the cleanlyness of the city (which was the noble job but because of their proximity to human waste they were untoucables at those times and not now)

 

[lem34]

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A crime is committed and the system adequately deals with it, this is how countries operate, despite your infinite repetitive rants that does not change.

this is your judicial system:

Discrimination in Judiciary

India’s subordinate courts have a backlog of over 22 million cases while the 21 high courts and the Supreme Court have 3.5 million and 32,000 pending cases (2006). In subordinate courts, over 15 million cases are filed and an equal number disposed of annually by about 14,000 judges! Every year a million or more cases are added to the arrears. At the current speed, the lower courts may take 124 years for clearing the backlog. There were only 13 judges for every million people.

Recently a parliamentary committee blamed the judiciary for keeping out competent persons of downtrodden communities from “through a shrewd process of manipulation”. Between 1950 to 2000, 47% of Chief Justices and 40% of Judges were of Brahmin origin!. Dalits and Indian aborigines are lesser than 20 out of 610 judges working in Supreme Court and state high Courts. “This nexus and manipulative judicial appointments have to be broken, it urged”. [Parliamentary standing committee report on Constitutional Review, Sudarshan Nachiappan]. Among 12 states with high-Muslim population, Muslim representation in judicial sector is limited to 7.8%. (Justice Sachar Report).

According to the National Crime Records Bureau, only 31 per cent criminal trials are completed in less than a year. Some take even more than 10 years. According to its study, Crime in India 2002, nearly 220,000 cases took more than 3 years to reach court, and about 25,600 exhausted 10 years before they were completed. The term of the Liberhan Commission, formed 14 years ago to probe the demolition of the Babri mosque in Ayodhya and originally given a mandate of three months, has been extended again!

 

[oFFbEAT]

I completely agree with you many of the evil practices like sati, child marriages, etc etc has been banned,

But the hindu philosophy is based on four castes correct me if i am wrong

1) Brahman
2) Khastriya
3) Vysha
4) Dalit,

Main goal of hinduism here to acheive moksha complete freedom and to attain it one must have to go through multiple cycles of life and birth,

i.e if someone is born dalit he must have committed grave sins in her past life
vice versa if someone is brahman tht means he must have committed some good deeds in thier past lives so they are born as brahmans gods decision

Just stating the obiviuos here based on my extensive research if i am wrong i would like to know when and how... thx in advance

On the other hand hinduism is not a state religion of india as india is a secular democracy agreed, but hinduism is a religion of majority of indians - and caste system is not in the indian law, as indian law protects its minorities it also protects its majority intersts so Hindus are free to practice their religion based on their sacred books and beliefs..

As I said earlier......It doesn't matter what the Hindu philosophy is.....since Hinduism is not the state religion of India.

Indian constitution is based on human rights.....not on religious dogmas.....

BUT, there are people of all religions in India....and some of them are bound to be extremists.....and therefore LAWS are there to check this extremism.......unlike Pakistan, where EXTREMISM is the LAW......

 

[Peacefull]

Sorry mate, your understanding is completly wrong, The vedas does not talk about caste based on any thing including varna. the enitire veda scripture is lost and only a very few remain.
Hinduism was introduced with these caste based on varna by elites and Raja Gurus who divided the people to establish their supremecy. and caste was primarly based on occupation.
1) Brahman -> people who occupty prist job
2) Khastriya -> PEOPLE who occupied warior job including being Rajas
3) Vysha -> people who were record keepers and adminstrative executives
4) Sudras(and not Dalits) => people who were scavangers who ensured the cleanlyness of the city (which was the noble job but because of their proximity to human waste they were untoucables at those times and not now)

To sum this up quickly, Hinduism has caste system or not ?

Is it wrong for me if i said ?

Bharma the Great God

1) Brahman was born from Bramhas mouth ?
2) Khastriya was born from arms of Bramha ?
3) Vysha was born from stomach of Bramha ?
4) Shudra was born from feet of Bramha ?

thx

 

[Peacefull]

I have also asked, if a White woman or a black african wants to conver to hinduism what would their castes be ?

Can women be priests in Hinduism ?

 

[Peacefull]

My questions are based on my quest for hindu religion and i was introduced to it through Yoga and not to forget the Kama sutura (i.e Tantra), as my interests have gone deeper i would like some answers, i am glad my indian friends can help me out,

Thx

 

[ashokdeiva]

To sum this up quickly, Hinduism has caste system or not ?

HINDUSISM in its present form has caste system, but the word caste is no where mentioned in Vedas or Upanishads that are the base of Hinduism

Is it wrong for me if i said ?
Bharma the Great God

no, its your freedom and there is nothing wrong for you to ask and gain knowledge on some thing you do not know or mis informed off,

1) Brahman was born from Bramhas mouth ?
2) Khastriya was born from arms of Bramha ?
3) Vysha was born from stomach of Bramha ?
4) Shudra was born from feet of Bramha ?

thx

this is complete false, this is propagated by some fools.

I have also asked, if a White woman or a black african wants to conver to hinduism what would their castes be ?

Can women be priests in Hinduism ?

as the great Swami Vivekananda once told, you don't have to become a Hindu to search/realize for God.
and if a any one from other race want to become a Hindu, they do not need to be part of a caste to become a Hindu as its not a mandatory requirment. All you just need to say is i belive in the Vedas, Upanishad and Gita that is more than enough to you to proclaim yourself as a Hindu