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Investors pull $27bn out of UK in one month amid fears of Scotland’s exit – report — RT Business

Published time: September 14, 2014 20:03
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Almost $27 billion of financial assets were pulled out of Britain in August in the run up to Scotland’s vote on independence, according to a new report by a London-based consultancy comparing the capital outflow to the Lehman Brothers collapse in 2008.

The financial outflow of 16.8 billion pounds ($27 billion) in August was the biggest since the white heat of the 2008 financial crisis when the US bank Lehman Brothers went bust, according to a CrossBorderCapital report compiled by the consultancy and released on Friday.

“Sterling outflows have been an issue since the end of June, but they really gathered pace in August and now look like intensifying again with the possibility of Scottish independence coming to the front of investors’ minds,” said Michael Howell, the managing director of the CrossBorder Capital.

The consultancy pointed out that the figures also dwarfed the selling of UK assets around the 2010 general election, afrer which there were several days of uncertainty over who would form the government.

Howell added that UK outflow was more than double the combined outflow from Germany and Australia and only Japan is currently seeing a faster rate of capital outflow from the country. This year UK has experienced a net 127 billion pound outflow ($206bn), while in 2013 a net 39 billion pounds ($63bn) flowed into the nation’s economy, he added.

The daily equity flow data pointed to “some of the largest UK equity selling on record, demonstrating investor concerns ahead of the Scottish referendum next week,” said Morgan Stanley on Friday.

Scotland is to vote in a referendum on its independence from Britain on Thursday, with opinion polls displaying a narrow gap between the pro-independence campaigners and those against the exit from the union. The latest ICM/Sunday Telegraph poll showed the biggest ‘Yes’ share of the referendum campaign, with 54 percent reporting an intention to vote ‘yes’ and 46 percent ‘no’.

The new liquidity report comes as the world’s leading investment banks warned of the financial folly Scotland would face if it votes for leaving the 307 year union with the UK.



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'Yes' campaign people gather for a rally outside the BBC in Glasgow, Scotland September 14, 2014. (Reuters/Paul Hackett)



On Friday, Deutsche Bank issued a paper criticizing independence and saying that it would be one of the greatest historic mistakes ever made.

A ‘yes’ vote for Scottish independence on Thursday would go down in history as a political and economic mistake as large as Winston Churchill’s decision in 1925 to return the pound to the Gold Standard or the failure of the Federal Reserve to provide sufficient liquidity to the US banking system, which we now know brought on the Great Depression,” said Chief economist David Folkerts-Landau.

Deutsche Bank described the desire for independence as ‘incomprehensible’ saying it will entail negative consequences.

Three retail giants joined the debate in a letter to the Scottish Daily Record newspaper on Friday. Sir Ian Cheshire, of B&Q-owner Kingfisher, Marc Bolland, chief executive of Marks & Spencer, and James Timpson, of cobbler and key-cutter Timpson agreed that consumers north of the border will suffer from the country’s exit

We are concerned about the greater complexity of trading across a national border coupled with the uncertainty over big issues such as the single currency and membership of the EU,” the joint letter read.

Within our group there is first-hand experience of trading across national borders – in France, Ireland and across the world. Our experience is that it always leads to more red tape and higher costs and we feel it is important to share this experience.”

We know that running a separate pricing system in Scotland will mean taking the difficult decision as to whether or not to pass on the increased costs through higher prices to Scottish consumers.

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Seriously!

There is very little chance of Scotland breaking away from Union.

Markets are acting like they always act towards low probability events. Even if Scotland breaks away, Economic position of Britain would be better off in long term. It is Scotland which would suffer.
 
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I SUPPORT SCOTLAND'S BID TO GAIN LIBERATION FROM IMPERIAL BRITAIN. GO SCOTLAND! YOUR DESTINY AWAITS YOU!~ AND MAY WALES FOLLOW!!!!!!! AFTER CENTURIES OF ABUSE AND HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, A NEW DAWN AWAITS!!!!
 
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I SUPPORT SCOTLAND'S BID TO GAIN LIBERATION FROM IMPERIAL BRITAIN. GO SCOTLAND! YOUR DESTINY AWAITS YOU!~ AND MAY WALES FOLLOW!!!!!!! AFTER CENTURIES OF ABUSE AND HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, A NEW DAWN AWAITS!!!!


Actually the Scots are treated quite well these days.

They are guaranteed to get 10 per cent extra funding per person as compared to rest of UK. In Scotland university tuition and elderly care is free unlike the rest of UK.
 
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Actually the Scots are treated quite well these days.

They are guaranteed to get 10 per cent extra funding per person as compared to rest of UK. In Scotland university tuition and elderly care is free unlike the rest of UK.

'These days' is because Britain got scared. 10% Phueey. I SUPPORT SCOT FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!

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Seriously!

There is very little chance of Scotland breaking away from Union.

Markets are acting like they always act towards low probability events. Even if Scotland breaks away, Economic position of Britain would be better off in long term. It is Scotland which would suffer.
nonsense scotland has all the Oil and gas
 
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This is not true at all. Without Scotland there is no UK. North Ireland and Wales will be next. A seat at the security council for a tiny little island with huge population density and no natural resources. Be serious for a moment.

Without Scotland there is no uk just England. Why do you think the english are in complete panic mode begging the Scotts not to vote yes. Because england will be better off without them ? Ahaha silly premise.


Seriously!

There is very little chance of Scotland breaking away from Union.

Markets are acting like they always act towards low probability events. Even if Scotland breaks away, Economic position of Britain would be better off in long term. It is Scotland which would suffer.
 
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Many other separatist movements within the EU are just waiting for the outcome of the Scotland referendum. Here in Germany, the Bayern Partei (Bavaria Party) is such one movement, others are Catalan, Basque (both in Spain and France), Corsica, Sardinia and many, many more.

Of course, a positive outcome of the Scotland referendum will also automatically give the Novorussia movement a huge moral boost.
 
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nonsense scotland has all the Oil and gas

North Sea's Oil and Gas field have been extensively exploited. What after Oil and Gas run out? How would Scotland balance books after a decade?


This is not true at all. Without Scotland there is no UK. North Ireland and Wales will be next. A seat at the security council for a tiny little island with huge population density and no natural resources. Be serious for a moment.

Without Scotland there is no uk just England. Why do you think the english are in complete panic mode begging the Scotts not to vote yes. Because england will be better off without them ? Ahaha silly premise.

Yes, England would be at loss, if Scotland break away. I am not denying that and i wish that Scotland remain part of UK. There are a lot of downside of Scottish secession on strategic ( Defence and Foreign affairs) level . What i am contesting is that Scottish secession would be financially ruinous for England. It would not be.Today, England heavily subsidize other constituents of the Union. Without English Subsidies, Scotland would find it difficult to maintain it's current living standard.

And you are right regarding Northern Ireland, which has high probability of seceding , but wrong about Wales. Wales is most backward part of UK, and is completely dependent on Revenue raised from England. While Scotland has high probability of forming a functioning state due to Tourism and Hydrocarbon revenue, Wales has no possibility of surviving on it's own. It would become a Low-Income to Mid Income country, if it secede.
 
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North Sea's Oil and Gas field have been extensively exploited. What after Oil and Gas run out? How would Scotland balance books after a decade?

they are superior to english men their culture and genes are more Scandinavian and Russian. They will find a way out.
 
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North Sea's Oil and Gas field have been extensively exploited. What after Oil and Gas run out? How would Scotland balance books after a decade?




Yes, England would be at loss, if Scotland break away. I am not denying that and i wish that Scotland remain part of UK. There are a lot of downside of Scottish secession on strategic ( Defence and Foreign affairs) level . What i am contesting is that Scottish secession would be financially ruinous for England. It would not be.Today, England heavily subsidize other constituents of the Union. Without English Subsidies, Scotland would find it difficult to maintain it's current living standard.

And you are right regarding Northern Ireland, which has high probability of seceding , but wrong about Wales. Wales is most backward part of UK, and is completely dependent on Revenue raised from England. While Scotland has high probability of forming a functioning state due to Tourism and Hydrocarbon revenue, Wales has no possibility of surviving on it's own. It would become a Low-Income to Mid Income country, if it secede.

England is bankrupt. They need the north sea oil revenues just to pay interest on their debt. Scotland will be fine. They have what 6 million people? Their poulation density is one of the worlds lowest. They dont need england and your comments havent really proven otherwise.

Im not saying the first few years will be the easiest. They need to create their own nation. That is never easy. But they have al the tools and resources to do so. England on the otherhand is nothing but a money laundering hub for the wealthy. If these people start to lose confidence in a weak tiny little island that has been diminised in front of te wole world, they will move their dirty money elsewhere and into other assets and england will collapse on itself.

Its kool though. I can see you dont really understand much of this.
 
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England is bankrupt. They need the north sea oil revenues just to pay interest on their debt. Scotland will be fine. They have what 6 million people? Their poulation density is one of the worlds lowest. They dont need england and your comments havent really proven otherwise.

Im not saying the first few years will be the easiest. They need to create their own nation. That is never easy. But they have al the tools and resources to do so. England on the otherhand is nothing but a money laundering hub for the wealthy. If these people start to lose confidence in a weak tiny little island that has been diminised in front of te wole world, they will move their dirty money elsewhere and into other assets and england will collapse on itself.

Its kool though. I can see you dont really understand much of this.

Let's see.

Anyway i don't think Scotland would secede.
 
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Many other separatist movements within the EU are just waiting for the outcome of the Scotland referendum. Here in Germany, the Bayern Partei (Bavaria Party) is such one movement, others are Catalan, Basque (both in Spain and France), Corsica, Sardinia and many, many more.

Of course, a positive outcome of the Scotland referendum will also automatically give the Novorussia movement a huge moral boost.

I support the freedom movements of Bavaria from clutches of Nazi Germany!!!! GO BAVARIA!!!!
 
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I support the freedom movements of Bavaria from clutches of Nazi Germany!!!! GO BAVARIA!!!!

FYI, the Nazi movement was strongest in Bavaria, the party HQ of the NSDAP was in Munich. Learn some history first before making yourself look like an ignorant fool in this forum.
 
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