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Yeah they buy rural property to convert it into cheap, third grade housing societies. Islamabad/Rawalpindi is a mess because of that, with some people making trashy housing schemes as far as Rawat. Rawalpindi also gets treated as a stepchild by successive Punjab governments. The land mafia situation in no other Punjab city is as bad as it is in Pindi. Even SSP was brought into Rawalpindi by the land grabbers.

And as I said, Chaudharies and Musharraf's cronies bought huge swathes lands near "new Islamabad airport" despite it being in Punjab. The outsiders' greed is unsatiable. After all, they don't feel any connection to the land or anything. And Pindi absorbing rural areas is fine, but I think Islamabad shouldn't be added with more Pothwar land.

I will not have problem if similar thing is implemented all over Pakistan and not on region basis. Why should we allow foreigners in our land? Gujranwala and Lahore divisions are most industrilized and rich divisions in Punjab and get most of workers from other regions including thousands of FATA people who work in Sialkot factories.

Remitances, industries and god given good agriculture land have made lots of people in these 2 divisions rich. These people then look to invest in Islamabad.

Similarly i don't expect poor Baloch people from rural areas to buy plots in Gwader. Mostly people from Karachi city will buy plots in Gwader and after that Baloch and Sindhi people. I think punjabis and pashtuns from KPK will not bother with Gwader. Rich KPK Pashtuns would rather invest in Bahria town Rawalpindi and same is the with central punjabis.

Putting restriction on who buys land in Gwader will mean end of it before it even begins.
 
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So I want to invest in Pakistan, but advised not to by almost everyone here. Their reason being is Kabza mafia. Since the mafia knows we're foreigners and have no time to fight a lenghty court battle about the ownership of property, they happily take over it. Plus if all else fail, they threaten to kidnap/kill if the owner visits Pakistan.


Is this true still? There is much to invest in and I rather not invest in something that is a complete worry.

When I lived in Pakistan, this guy who was building the house died. So these 2 families (pakhtoon) fought over ownership of dead man's land, saying it belonged to them. Funny thing is, the two were also distance relatives and neighbours.

I prefer to invest in peshawar/adjoining areas.

Do not invest in ANY property which is not completed and doesn't belong to Bahria or DHA Lahore & Karachi. Even DHA Islamabad have robbed people by selling plots and not developing it since 8 years..

I have few very close relatives who have been robbed by Eden Housing society as well as DHA Islamabad - Their crime? they invested in housing schemes that were not fully developed. After taking 60-80% of total amount, the projects were delayed for indefinite period of time. Someone I know is waiting for 8 years now for DHA islamabad to develop what they promised to deliver in 2005!
 
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Do not invest in ANY property which is not completed and doesn't belong to Bahria or DHA Lahore & Karachi. Even DHA Islamabad have robbed people by selling plots and not developing it since 8 years..

I have few very close relatives who have been robbed by Eden Housing society as well as DHA Islamabad - Their crime? they invested in housing schemes that were not fully developed. After taking 60-80% of total amount, the projects were delayed for indefinite period of time. Someone I know is waiting for 8 years now for DHA islamabad to develop what they promised to deliver in 2005!

paragon society in lahore is very reputed one and has stellar integrity. They have a scheme going on , Give us X amount of money, along with the land, we will build the house on it. 3 years back my brother bought land on which 1 Kanal house was be build for 10-12 million rs and great thing about is no matter how much currency fluctuate, they wouldn't charge you extra for construction work and it took 3 years of installment to pay the amount. Next month, they would hand over the property and the house to him.

Paragon society is near to royal Golf course, airport and ring road is both near to it. It is at perfect location.
 
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So I want to invest in Pakistan, but advised not to by almost everyone here. Their reason being is Kabza mafia. Since the mafia knows we're foreigners and have no time to fight a lenghty court battle about the ownership of property, they happily take over it. Plus if all else fail, they threaten to kidnap/kill if the owner visits Pakistan.


Is this true still? There is much to invest in and I rather not invest in something that is a complete worry.

When I lived in Pakistan, this guy who was building the house died. So these 2 families (pakhtoon) fought over ownership of dead man's land, saying it belonged to them. Funny thing is, the two were also distance relatives and neighbours.

I prefer to invest in peshawar/adjoining areas.

the noora who you support will safe your arse...dont worry, invest freely.. :lol:
 
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7,000+ Pakistanis own Rs 1100 billion properties in Dubai

ISLAMABAD: In what reads like a script from the dark side, Pakistan’s super rich have made merry in one of the world’s luxury capitals away from the prying eyes of their compatriots. The physical distance has long seemed to work.

For the first time, Geo News can disclose that Pakistanis have bought properties worth an estimated Rs1.1 trillion in the heart of Dubai in the past one-and-a half-decade. Interestingly, the majority of them did not disclose these properties in their annual returns and were said to be moving their assets out of the country to avert getting caught in the event of a serious crackdown on this unaccounted-for money.

According to a confidential document available with Geo News, around 7,000 plus super rich Pakistanis bought luxury residential villas/flats/estates in 12 renowned localities in the Emirati capital. The documents contain particulars of some 34,000 rich families from 118 countries in all.

Such is the spending spree of these wealthy Pakistanis that they have become the biggest overseas property buyers in Dubai — leaving behind even investors from India, the United States, Britain and the rest of the world thanks to the Rs1.1 trillion they shelled out for these properties.

This list of the who’s who includes politicians, some of whom are members of parliament, retired generals, former judges, real estate tycoons, businessmen, bureaucrats, lawyers, actors, singers, and some media personalities.

Startling revelations came at a time when the country’s top court directed the SBP, SECP, IB, ISI, MI, Foreign Office and FIA to share their information about foreign bank accounts and foreign assets held by the Pakistani citizens.

The story of these wealthy ladies would not have been a great bone of contention had financial propriety been in the all clear for all buyers, most of them luckily attached with their billionaire husbands. However, according to the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) officials, hardly 2 per cent of these buyers disclosed any foreign properties in their annual returns. An overwhelming majority never disclosed their foreign offshore wealth, thus violating declaration laws governing foreign assets.

The authorities admit that a now-dormant investigation by FIA was able to trace only 100 investors in the past two and a half years. The regulators — FBR, FIA, SECP and SBP — failed to question the legitimacy of the transfer of funds to buy those properties and no action had been taken yet.

Based on investigations over the past four months both in Pakistan and Dubai by this correspondent for Geo News (Aaj Shahzaib Khanzada Ke Sath), an estimated 5,000 Pakistanis bought properties in their names since 2002 while around 2,000 Pakistani nationals owned properties as ‘benamis’. Nearly 5,600 Indians, 887 Canadians, 799 Americans, 400 Britons, 194 Afghans, 332 Australians and 83 New Zealanders also splurged on the high-end property market. The rest came from the 113 countries.

Pakistanis bought over 967 villas/residential properties in luxury areas of Greens; 75 precious flats in Emirates Hills; 165 properties in Discovery Garden (residential and commercial); 167 flats in Jumeirah Island; 123 residential properties in Jumeirah Park; 245 plush flats in Jumeirah Village; 10 properties in Palm Deira; 160 in Palm Jabel Ali; 25 properties in Palm Juemirah Shorelines; 234 properties in International City; and 230 in Dubai Cilicon.

The rest of properties were bought elsewhere in Dubai. Around 200 Pakistanis, who hold Canadian citizenship; 50 with Australian nationality; and four Pakistanis holding New Zealand citizenship own residential properties in Dubai.

The base price (lowest value units) of a property in Dubai market was AED1,000,000 and upper end properties were worth as much as AED15,000,000, according to some recognised property consultants in Dubai. They claim the estimated value of 7,000 properties owned by Pakistanis in Dubai, UAE, totaled: AED35,000,000,000 (approximately, US$9,529,000,000 or Pakistani Rs1,004,663,897,187).

For evaluation purposes, the properties were broadly divided into four categories. Understanding that upper end properties are lesser in number, the valuation estimates were calculated as 10% high end properties (700 units) @ AED15,000,000 each; 20% upper-mid-level properties (1,400 units) @ AED10,000,000 each; 20% mid-level value properties (1,400 units) @ AED5,000,000 each, and 50% lowest value properties (3,500 units) @ AED1,000,000 each.

Despite repeated requests officially delivered to them by Geo News, the FBR, SBP and FIA chose to remain silent on the issue. This correspondent made repeated requests via emails, WhatsApp and text messages to 1,200 prominent Pakistanis who own properties in Dubai, out of which only eight buyers responded in the past three weeks.

Similarly, neither the Pakistan mission in the UAE nor the Dubai Land Department responded to the queries made by Geo News. This correspondent met more than two dozen officials concerned of the FBR, SPB and FIA in Pakistan and a number of Pakistanis and property consultants in Dubai.

The said authorities, however, admitted that a large number of Pakistani citizens were found in possession of properties such as luxurious flats, apartments and other valuable properties worth billions of rupees and the funds were transferred to the UAE through illegal channels in violation of the Foreign Assets’ Declaration Regulations 1972 and the rules and regulations of SBP.

“The FIA wrote to (the) Pakistani Mission in Dubai on Aug 17, 2015 but no response (has been) received yet. A letter was also written to Dubai authorities through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs but no response was received. FIA sought details of Pakistani citizens who purchased properties in foreign countries and declared the same before the SBP w.e.f 1990 till to 2017. The SBP officially informed the FIA through a letter written on Sep 23, 2015 that no Pakistani citizen intimated about his/her belongings of immoveable properties outside Pakistan under the provision of foreign assets (declaration),” revealed a senior official of FIA overseeing progress into this case.

He conjectured that funds invested in properties in the UAE and other countries had mostly been transferred through ‘hundi’ and ‘hawala’ network and thus no money trail can be found for such transactions. Foreign tax administrations were also not cooperating in furnishing full particulars of Pakistani owners of properties within their territorial jurisdiction to Pakistani tax authorities, he added.

All such persons or individuals who have acquired properties abroad and have not reported those in their wealth statements filed with the FBR can be prosecuted criminally under Sections 192 and 192-A of the Income Tax Ordinance 2001 in addition to other penal provisions of the said ordinance.

They are also in violation of the provisions of Anti Money Laundering Act for having reportedly channeled their (mostly ill gotten) money abroad through illegal instruments such as ‘hundi’ and ‘hawala’.

The Foreign Assets’ Declaration Law reads: “Any person who owns any moveable or immoveable properties, not being foreign exchange, in any country other than Pakistan, shall declare before SBP its description and value and the income derived from it. It [Law] shall all apply to all citizens of Pakistan i.e. any person employed in any capacity in foreign country or a wage earner residing in a foreign country.”

Apparently, the buyers couldn’t care less.

Speaking in the Geo News programme 'Aaj Shahzeb Khanzada kay Sath', Adviser to the Prime Minister on Finance Miftah Ismail said a person bringing dollars to Pakistan neither paid any tax nor could be questioned by the FBR.

According to Miftah, people first send money abroad Hawala and later whiten that through amnesty scheme. But the government wants to bring a new scheme through the practice.

Miftah said the government wanted to introduce an amnesty scheme during the current tenure. Actually, it would be wrong to describe it an amnesty scheme as they were going to end the amnesty scheme, Miftah said.

He said their objective was to bring a scheme to encourage the Pakistanis to invest in the country and give a chance for regularising the money to those having assets in or outside the country.

Tax expert Shabbar Zaidi said no amnesty scheme for foreign assets had ever been given in Pakistan, adding that the new initiative would be different from the previous ones because of being comprehensive to settle the international issues.

He said given the changes at international level, it was essential for the Pakistanis to declare their foreign assets to protect themselves and their wealth. People must understand that it was an international issue, not local, Zaidi stressed.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/277433-7-000-pakistanis-own-rs1-100-bn-properties-in-dubai#_
 
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Nowadays DONOT invest or buy Property in Islamabad or Lahore, Prices are massive and it is going to fall soon.
 
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