Investigators say attackers were misled about target in Peshawar

[Trango Towers]

Interesting.

I am surprised why Pakistan has not yet emphatically and comprehensively won it’s war on terror yet. The militants, in majority of cases, are clearly idiots.

And TTP is appearing as more a circus than a militant outfit.

1. If they were targeting an Intelligence Post, were they not able to identify the college? I am sure that the college did not come up in the intervening night of Thursday-Friday. So, the confusion, does it imply a deliberate policy followed inPakistan of ‘hiding’ their intelligence offices inside premises housing educational institutes? Or was it deliberate ‘leak’ to achieve the objective as has been achieved?

2. Another interesting tidbit is that the attackers were carrying arms, ammunition and IEDs indicating plans for prolonged gunfight. Beats logic. If indeed the aim was to neutralise the “Spy Agency Office”, it would be a light, fast and mobile raid followed by quick extrication from the target. In a built up area and relatively public space, easily achieved.

3. Somehow one must learn from Pakistan based terrorists on how none of the suicude vests are ever used by terrorists. Interesting. So, and here am being sarcastic, are the idiots told the suicide vests are bullet proofs?

4. And if they wanted to strike, why would you target a place on Friday? To minimise collateral damage? In an apparent “Spy Agency Office”? RIP Logic ... or is it a OPERATION CYA?


From above, I really wonder how TTP as an organisation is actually surviving! Clearly a bunch of incompetent and downright stupid terrorists.

PS: Rather strange that it came on a Friday that would ensure minimal collateral damage and casualties, clearly indicates the three idiots being misled about the attack and objective and be perfectly timed in the aftermath of Faisalabad Interchange and criticism as followed.

War is pretty much won but isolate rouge incidents are impossible to stop.

 

[punit]

@punit TTP has shortage of no questions asked militants i.e Uzbek, tajiks,Chechen,hard-cores etc that's why they had to trick the attackers.
@hellfire Read it again.

So you mean to say if TTP leadership asks it's cadre to attack a non military target they will ask questions ?

 

[BATMAN]

CCTV cameras were installed but not working at Peshawar Agriculture Institute. If the cameras weer working and someone was monitoring them , the Terrorist attack would have been observed and students warned or may be another armed security guard sent inside the building before the terrorists, to put up some resistance. After the single security guard at the gate was killed, the terrorists had no barriers in the way and could do what they wanted. Instead of heroism, we need precautions to stop the menace of terrorism.
Similar thing happened at Bacha Khan university attack. CCTV was installed and functional but nobody was watching. Terrorists could be seen climbing the wall and moving towards students accommodation.

Those cameras were not working by design or by chance, but handlers of terrorists knew it all!
Hostile foreign agencies are sharing resources in Pakistan, otherwise its not possible for every foreign agency to sink that deep in our society.
We can't win this war without educating people, who are playing in hands of this coalition of hostile foreign agencies, operating out of neighboring states.

I agree, that there must be a common and secure design for a check post, certified by specialists. Appointing one watch-man is criminal, when we know he's their to die.

Sometimes, I'm surprised at the insensitivities of Pakistanis towards a human being. it looks like the rule to live in Pakistan is to form tribes and live like mafia.

After APS India deserved nuke... but our nation continue to watch Indian movies.
Anyone who go watch Indian movie in cinema, have his hands tainted in blood of Pakistanis.

 

[qazwasx]

So you mean to say if TTP leadership asks it's cadre to attack a non military target they will ask questions ?

I am saying they have lost their most of hard-core(brainwashed) recruits, it takes time and resources to convince(brainwash) someone to attack unarmed students than say the guys who are hunting them like dogs i.e ISI.

 

[punit]

I am saying they have lost their most of hard-core(brainwashed) recruits, it takes time and resources to convince(brainwash) someone to attack unarmed students than say the guys who are hunting them like dogs i.e ISI.

If you believe this ... Your choice. I m out.

 

[Darth Vader]

Interesting.

I am surprised why Pakistan has not yet emphatically and comprehensively won it’s war on terror yet. The militants, in majority of cases, are clearly idiots.

And TTP is appearing as more a circus than a militant outfit.

1. If they were targeting an Intelligence Post, were they not able to identify the college? I am sure that the college did not come up in the intervening night of Thursday-Friday. So, the confusion, does it imply a deliberate policy followed inPakistan of ‘hiding’ their intelligence offices inside premises housing educational institutes? Or was it deliberate ‘leak’ to achieve the objective as has been achieved?

2. Another interesting tidbit is that the attackers were carrying arms, ammunition and IEDs indicating plans for prolonged gunfight. Beats logic. If indeed the aim was to neutralise the “Spy Agency Office”, it would be a light, fast and mobile raid followed by quick extrication from the target. In a built up area and relatively public space, easily achieved.

3. Somehow one must learn from Pakistan based terrorists on how none of the suicude vests are ever used by terrorists. Interesting. So, and here am being sarcastic, are the idiots told the suicide vests are bullet proofs?

4. And if they wanted to strike, why would you target a place on Friday? To minimise collateral damage? In an apparent “Spy Agency Office”? RIP Logic ... or is it a OPERATION CYA?


From above, I really wonder how TTP as an organisation is actually surviving! Clearly a bunch of incompetent and downright stupid terrorists.

PS: Rather strange that it came on a Friday that would ensure minimal collateral damage and casualties, clearly indicates the three idiots being misled about the attack and objective and be perfectly timed in the aftermath of Faisalabad Interchange and criticism as followed.

Few Points
1
It could Be Attackers were given false information there could be a leakout in Past Intelligence services gave warnings the areas weeks before the attack but on Local level nothing was Done.
Hiding Intelligence offices inside educational institutes in small areas be it Pakistan and India are any other country there are different kinds of Safe locations some to just pass info or or Safe houses and few other kinds to create a local background story for that so even there was one for it me it could be 2 reasons 1 if there is leak out scenario or 2nd TTP scums were told this was Intelligence office so they could just start shooting
2
They were not spies neither these Scums were needed the scenario you are making is most for hit and run most of these attacks are to maximise casualty rate and terror.
3
they had vests when they fail they use these to take themselves out
But in Most of the time it was Pakistani Forces Response time which have helped and scums were not able to do anything
4
I dont think Friday is a holiday in Pakistan only a half day, but target was clear
Spy Office seems BS story given to these scums by there handlers
Pakistani Forces has destroyed there capability so much , much of these Scums Live in Afghinstan
Now its a common thing Terrorist will come from Afghanistan and attack Pakistani Schools
and People still doesn't Wanna learn and do something about
Pakistani forces must create a buffer zone inside Afghanistan as Afghan people are not able to clear these scums themselves ask Nato and Pakistan To join forces Simple thats the only way to Save Pakistani and Afghan lives
otherwise is hiding your trash under the table instead cleaning , and Pakistan have no other option than to clean this mess for the safety of its Citizen .

 

[alphapak]

Are the teachers in KPK schools, college and universities allowed to carry guns?
I think it would be good idea if the teachers are trained to fight off terrorists.

 

[RescueRanger]

I think it would be good idea if the teachers are trained to fight off terrorists.

Err, no!

https://www.dawn.com/news/1187586

Teachers don't want to be security guards! We asked them! Courses were run throughout Pakistan from Karachi to Azad Kashmir!

 

[Maarkhoor]

Interesting.

I am surprised why Pakistan has not yet emphatically and comprehensively won it’s war on terror yet. The militants, in majority of cases, are clearly idiots.

And TTP is appearing as more a circus than a militant outfit.

1. If they were targeting an Intelligence Post, were they not able to identify the college? I am sure that the college did not come up in the intervening night of Thursday-Friday. So, the confusion, does it imply a deliberate policy followed inPakistan of ‘hiding’ their intelligence offices inside premises housing educational institutes? Or was it deliberate ‘leak’ to achieve the objective as has been achieved?

2. Another interesting tidbit is that the attackers were carrying arms, ammunition and IEDs indicating plans for prolonged gunfight. Beats logic. If indeed the aim was to neutralise the “Spy Agency Office”, it would be a light, fast and mobile raid followed by quick extrication from the target. In a built up area and relatively public space, easily achieved.

3. Somehow one must learn from Pakistan based terrorists on how none of the suicude vests are ever used by terrorists. Interesting. So, and here am being sarcastic, are the idiots told the suicide vests are bullet proofs?

4. And if they wanted to strike, why would you target a place on Friday? To minimise collateral damage? In an apparent “Spy Agency Office”? RIP Logic ... or is it a OPERATION CYA?


From above, I really wonder how TTP as an organisation is actually surviving! Clearly a bunch of incompetent and downright stupid terrorists.

PS: Rather strange that it came on a Friday that would ensure minimal collateral damage and casualties, clearly indicates the three idiots being misled about the attack and objective and be perfectly timed in the aftermath of Faisalabad Interchange and criticism as followed.

You meant to say it was false flag like Indian did?
Friday was chosen because of there are virtually a zero security since most of the students and teachers left for their home towns, only families of some teachers and hostel student remain inside.
By the way are you Raj47?

Interesting.

I am surprised why Pakistan has not yet emphatically and comprehensively won it’s war on terror yet. The militants, in majority of cases, are clearly idiots.

And TTP is appearing as more a circus than a militant outfit.

1. If they were targeting an Intelligence Post, were they not able to identify the college? I am sure that the college did not come up in the intervening night of Thursday-Friday. So, the confusion, does it imply a deliberate policy followed inPakistan of ‘hiding’ their intelligence offices inside premises housing educational institutes? Or was it deliberate ‘leak’ to achieve the objective as has been achieved?

2. Another interesting tidbit is that the attackers were carrying arms, ammunition and IEDs indicating plans for prolonged gunfight. Beats logic. If indeed the aim was to neutralise the “Spy Agency Office”, it would be a light, fast and mobile raid followed by quick extrication from the target. In a built up area and relatively public space, easily achieved.

3. Somehow one must learn from Pakistan based terrorists on how none of the suicude vests are ever used by terrorists. Interesting. So, and here am being sarcastic, are the idiots told the suicide vests are bullet proofs?

4. And if they wanted to strike, why would you target a place on Friday? To minimise collateral damage? In an apparent “Spy Agency Office”? RIP Logic ... or is it a OPERATION CYA?


From above, I really wonder how TTP as an organisation is actually surviving! Clearly a bunch of incompetent and downright stupid terrorists.

PS: Rather strange that it came on a Friday that would ensure minimal collateral damage and casualties, clearly indicates the three idiots being misled about the attack and objective and be perfectly timed in the aftermath of Faisalabad Interchange and criticism as followed.

@RescueRanger

Sir read the above crap which shows how Indian top defence analyst analysis things...
Poster may be A missile expert Raj47.

 

[RescueRanger]

You meant to say it was false flag like Indian did?
Friday was chosen because of there are virtually a zero security since most of the students and teachers left for their home towns, only families of some teachers and hostel student remain inside.
By the way are you Raj47?


@RescueRanger

Sir read the above crap which shows how Indian top defence analyst analysis things...
Poster may be A missile expert Raj47.

Going through the posts now sir.

 

[nair]

And APS was marked as future solider preparation School. Load of bullshit. the writer trying to proof that noble jehadis of TTP will not attack a non military target

Look at the timing of the attack...... Not in one angle, but in multiple angles.....You will get the answer....

 

[Arsalan]

Interesting.

I am surprised why Pakistan has not yet emphatically and comprehensively won it’s war on terror yet. The militants, in majority of cases, are clearly idiots.

Who have? Please do share!

, not only that they immediately found out where they came from and who trained them in a very short duration of time.

RICH coming from someone who recover mobile phones, have them analyzed and trace the maps back to Pakistan, all while the firing is still underway. (read Uri)
or do i even need to mention a certain bird species?

Cut the trolling, if you have NOTHING positive to contribute, please don't do it here.

 

[Ocean]

Your pita shri

ROFL
People dont worry about @hellfire i am a keen follower of this person on other forum though that forums seems to have closed or something now. So according to him India had already tipped off Usa about OBLs presence in abbottabad (and guess what when??) yes back then in 2005 . Yea he said that

He is the sherlock holmes who knows everything before it happens but thats another thing he only discloses that he already knew that this thing will happen once that event has actually taken place

He goes off with : See ihad already told you, Collate my post # 288888 from page 199 of thread "When i was as beautiful as sheela ki jawani" to page number 204 post number 100008 of thread "Zandu balm laga lo piya where the butthurt is " and see i had already predicted these events

 

[jetray]

RICH coming from someone who recover mobile phones, have them analyzed and trace the maps back to Pakistan, all while the firing is still underway. (read Uri)
or do i even need to mention a certain bird species?

Cut the trolling, if you have NOTHING positive to contribute, please don't do it here.

Save yourself some embarrassment, it was quoted by your own ppl.

 

[Hellfire]

they mag have thought that the police would be busy giving security to 12 rabbi ul awal procession. that's how an illeterate and brainwashed person would think.

And would that brain which could fathom a vacuum in security arrangements, not be able to appreciate the fact that no one would be around on that day in the place they were attacking? Be it an Intelligence site itself?

Strange, isn't it?

secondly they were cornered and all students were moved to safety, then they were killed

Kindly do explain this bit. I am not sure I get the correct meaning here ...

they never used suicide vest because there were no target and thats the reason it took 2 hours to clear them.

And what makes you think that the TTP cadre is very selective in only attacking the police and law enforcement agencies?

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...a-hospital-lawyer-killed-160808050839643.html

Here is an example to debunk that premise.

third point is that they wanted to fight long to make it a big attack and show their precense to the world, which they were not able to do during recent past.

This point I agree with..

Thanks

So now u wanna troll that we ourselves did it well by that Rundi logic we can also say u your self did Mumbai

Your perception here? Or did you fail to correlate my criticism of the Army not backing the GoP against the radical group at the Faislabad Interchange?

Very astute observation on your country's view point oft narrated here over Mumbai attacks. It remains a different perspective that the view is not shared by any nation in the world.

Reverting back to the topic at hand. Let us assume a correlation in 'peaceful' capitulation of GoP at interchange thanks to Army and ISI being paid back with gratitude to deflect the criticism coming their way from both domestic and international observers.

Possibility of a grateful radical group, acting not necessarily in consonance with the organisations, but under assumption of 'helping' them in quid pro quo?

@hellfire Read the whole article, the ttp leadership knew that it was an educational institute it was only the suicide bombers which did not know.They were tricked into attacking the university so they are motivated that they are fighting ISI and not students.

Again my dear member, since when has TTP made that fine a distinction? And since when has the common uneducated Pakistani been so aloof as to the attacks carried out by TTP that this line can hold? Even the most gullible will be hard pressed to digest that line.

Are you doing it willingly or really can't comprehend the OP?

What ever suits you. I think I am quite clear to those who can correlate the incidents as occurred at Faislabad Interchange the other day and the dastardly attack at Peshawar. What missed you? Limitations of the intellect to correlate and analyse?

And APS was marked as future solider preparation School. Load of bullshit. the writer trying to proof that noble jehadis of TTP will not attack a non military target.


You mean to say suicide bombers were so noble that they will not attack a non military target ?

It is indeed a narrative being pushed and that is what has raised my 'antennae' if you will, over the whole thing stinking and some zealot sitting in backdrop playing a longer game ....

there should be a limit to idiocy

I agree. Crosses all in this incident.

three suicide bombers are sent to blow up a place
they dont us ethe vests because maybe they were afraid to die? or maybe they figured they were mislead with the target?

You think they were misled? How did you reach that conclusion?

Friday was the birthday of the Prophet @ idiot
best time to send a message

Isn't that blasphemy my dear?

So you mean to say if TTP leadership asks it's cadre to attack a non military target they will ask questions ?

That is PDF logic nowadays, apparently. You become an apologist for a militant just because an Indian member has raised flags, all seemingly unrelated yet significant act of terror in immediate aftermath of a public capitulation of the State to radicals ..... amazing thought process in play, never have I seen this.

@Oscar Now I recall what you meant long back

Few Points
1
It could Be Attackers were given false information there could be a leakout in Past Intelligence services gave warnings the areas weeks before the attack but on Local level nothing was Done.
Hiding Intelligence offices inside educational institutes in small areas be it Pakistan and India are any other country there are different kinds of Safe locations some to just pass info or or Safe houses and few other kinds to create a local background story for that so even there was one for it me it could be 2 reasons 1 if there is leak out scenario or 2nd TTP scums were told this was Intelligence office so they could just start shooting

So, you mean to imply the possibility of the same being projected as a 'safe house' or 'harbour' for Intel operatives? Fair enough. Then kindly explain which embedded agent will agree to being an agent when the terrorist purportedly asked a question as to veracity of the place being a safe house?

They were not spies neither these Scums were needed the scenario you are making is most for hit and run most of these attacks are to maximise casualty rate and terror.

Have you met any terrorist who is happy to die when the time to pass has come? I have certainly not met any. Suicide vests are meant as weapons of last resort in case surrounded .... or until and unless there is a specific plan calling for a suicide attack. In the latter case, the individual will be quietly inserted into the target area with a team 'fronting' for him/her and creating a distraction.

Seriously!

they had vests when they fail they use these to take themselves out
But in Most of the time it was Pakistani Forces Response time which have helped and scums were not able to do anything

How much time elapsed since advent of SFs and neutralisation of 'suicide vest borne' terrorists?

I dont think Friday is a holiday in Pakistan only a half day, but target was clear

It was Eid Maldun Nabi ...a publoc holiday.

Pakistani Forces has destroyed there capability so much , much of these Scums Live in Afghinstan

Agreed. So you mean to say they woke up in Afghanistan and attacked and did not undertake a recon mission to ascertain their target? What kind of antithetical logic are you presenting?

Now its a common thing Terrorist will come from Afghanistan and attack Pakistani Schools, and People still doesn't Wanna learn and do something about

More like can't do. Ceding space to the radicals at Interchange is exactly the part that moves in this direction ....

Pakistani forces must create a buffer zone inside Afghanistan as Afghan people are not able to clear these scums themselves ask Nato and Pakistan To join forces Simple thats the only way to Save Pakistani and Afghan lives
otherwise is hiding your trash under the table instead cleaning , and Pakistan have no other option than to clean this mess for the safety of its Citizen .

I doubt they have the will or the capability to undertake that without undermining their own security exponentially.

I on the other hand, am all for undertaking a deliberate offensive to re-establish the authority of the Pakistani State on all it's territories and across all institutions without exceptions.

A great write up :

https://www.dawn.com/news/1329822/smokers-corner-curbing-the-mullah

Who have? Please do share!

Point is, the affair stinks. Especially in light of the 'surrender' of Pakistani State in front of the radicals at the interchange and a disunited house presented by the State.
It creates an impression of some radical sitting and managing the national discourse by acts of terror.

ROFL
People dont worry about @hellfire i am a keen follower of this person on other forum though that forums seems to have closed or something now. So according to him India had already tipped off Usa about OBLs presence in abbottabad (and guess what when??) yes back then in 2005 . Yea he said that

Joke is on you sweetie. For the first time I said it in 2008 in my previous avtaar. Then in present avtaar repeated it a few times earlier too.

Go sift through the data bank .. it will be found somewhere in 2009-12 period too