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nobody is saying that, but how do you interpret stats. god's will?Being Pakistani has nothing to do with it.
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Hindu doesn't allowed cousin marriage so why the hell you born mentally retard.nobody wants to ban these marriages, they will never be banned. However contributing to 30 percent of genetically defective children when you are only 3%(of children born) is scary. May be its something else, like faulty gene among pakistanis. Is it food habits? Its surely way higher than average in UK.
@persona_non_grata the rest 97 percent contribute to 70 percent defects(probably due to late marriage, alcohol, drugs etc), still it looks like less risk than those faced by pakistanis
I beg to differ.They probably have had cousin marriages for few generations since this genetic problems is not present in Pakistan. In Islam, cousin marriage is allowed but that does not mean you only marry cousins !!!
First cousin marriages in Pakistani communities leading to 'appalling' disabilities among children - Telegraph
First cousin marriages in Pakistani communities leading to 'appalling' disabilities among children
Baroness Flather, a cross-bench peer, says it is 'absolutely appalling' that first cousin marriages in Pakistani communities are leading to 'so much disability among children'
By Steven Swinford, Deputy Political Editor
5:33PM BST 07 Jul 2015
Couples who are getting married should be forced to have a DNA test first to ensure they are not cousins amid growing concern about incest within Pakistani communities, Britain's first Asian peer has claimed.
Baroness Flather, a former Tory who now sits as a cross-bencher, said in the House of Lords that it is "absolutely appalling" that first cousin marriages in Pakistani communities are leading to "so much disability among children".
She said: "There are a lot of first-cousin marriages in certain communities, particularly among Pakistanis who come from the Pakistani Kashmir area. We know so much about DNA now, but there is so much disability among the children, which is absolutely appalling.
"You go to any such family and there will be four or five children, at least one or two of whom will have some disability. That is absolutely unacceptable, and if we cannot do anything about it, is it fair to the children?"
Baroness Flather, a former barrister who was born in the Pakistani city of Lahore when it was part of India, said: "Never mind the parents — it is not fair to the children that they should be allowed to become disabled because of a social practice. It is a social practice which does not belong in today’s age, when we know so much about DNA. There should at least be some rule which says that you must have a DNA examination before your marriage can be registered."
First-cousin marriages, which are are legal in the UK, are practised within Britain’s Pakistani community, as well as among some Arab and African families. Medical data previously suggested that while British Pakistanis were responsible for 3 per cent of all births, they accounted for 30 per cent of British children born with a genetic illness.
The noble Baroness Flather also raised concerns about Sharia law, under which women struggle to get a divorce.
She said: "I know I am probably talking about Muslims, but we now have this business of sharia marriages. It is appalling that the man can get a divorce by just asking for it, while a woman may have to wait years, and may still not get it. She can get a British divorce, but not a sharia divorce.
Noble Lords may ask, “Why does that matter?”, and I asked that of those women. They replied, “It means that we can’t go to Pakistan”.
"If they go there, the husband can come and take the children away, no matter what age they are. In any case, the husband can take the children from a sharia marriage when they are seven. All marriages should be automatically registered in this country. It is not fair to the women that some British women — they are British women when they come here — are treated in a different and unacceptable way from others.
This might be the case with our familyI have seen cases where paternal and maternal grand parents were cousins so were the parents.
Exactly!!!Look at the bright side, never mind the IQ or other issues, inbreeding keeps the family property in safe hands.
Is there any thing wrong with it?Pakistanis marry with cousins for generations.
One good reason why?First cousin marriages should be banned.
I wont get personal and abuse you back in same token because I wont want to abuse your parents... I am not reporting you so enjoy your freedom.Hindu doesn't allowed cousin marriage so why the hell you born mentally retard.
I think incest cause this.
One good reason why?
Is that a reason?Inbreeding? Or is that okay for you?
Unfortunately the study is flawed , as there are many folks who have cousin marriages yet they have no issues and have healthy live families
The whole cousin none cousin thing is a western culture thing, there is no Islamic basis for it
Its clearly defined who you cannot marry i.e your direct family
Cousins are distant
Raise of risk 1-2% is not sufficient
The problem is very simple let me explain , western culture expect you to go dating and clubing and pick up women , and find a mate , so they find any possible excuse in any other format, you play the slut machines game untill you find a match , and hit jackpot
Your cousin is not your sister, and her DNA makeup is different from your father or mother , and yours, whats wrong if you find a women who you know her morals are good and she has good family values
How many people who are not cousines have kids with Autism in western society?
Many and the numbers are rising ? So should we ban all these other type of marriges
There are many mixed couple marriges that also have miscarries , or have kids with problems
As @AZADPAKISTAN2009 is explaining that this doesn't mean these defects r due to "inbreeding "..They could be due to multiple reasons. In my family there hasn't been a single such defect. I have an uncle with some disabilities and his parents are not cousins. So....
As per our Prophet Muhammed (PCBH) The First choice to you and your Sister will be 1st cussion from your Uncle.(Fathers brothers) Second is from your Aunt (Father Sisters) Then your Uncle (Mother brothers and then Mothers Sisters) If you do not have suitable partner the can go outside.
My second point is that you can not be sure unless make a full check up of both families if going to marry outside of family. In family you may know if there are some medical issues. But Majority of people married outside with out knowing anything about other family in regards with medical issue.
So choice is only as our Prophet and 12 Imams guideline.
You are a traitor, how dare you malign pak fauj in the last thread ,and here you are exposing country's internal problems to your enemies.
You should be booked under blasphemy law and executed
Just sarcasm,
And @trolls please don't bother to reply
Btw good discussion
So choice is only as our Prophet and 12 Imams guideline.
ALL foreigners in the UK are crazy. The Polish think their so hard doing drugs and walking in the park shirtless, the Indians blast their music so loud you would think they are deaf, and the Africans drool like babies.
As far as i know there is no strict rule in islam which says that you should only marry your cousins and no one else.