Interceptor missile mission a ‘failure’

[Jamwal's]

Ok here is another one affirming.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/recent-interceptor-missile-test-failure-report-679863

If you guys know any international paper that covered this story please share because 'the diplomat' is also sceptical now.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/05/did-india-hide-a-failed-supersonic-missile-test/
"It is not possible to independently verify either claim at this stage. Interestingly, however, there were no pictures or videos of the May 15 launch or of the interceptor missile in flight published, something which is otherwise regularly done by Indian authorities."

The whole point of starting the thread was not mud slinging but to understand why DRDO lied .Is it because they were trying to create a false sense of power imbalance in the region.A simple statement could have have came by now, to clarify or rebuke Hindu but there's silence.

All of these quoting the Hindu as a source, moreover the level of ambiguity is good for us.

 

[Tripoli]

Ok here is another one affirming.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/recent-interceptor-missile-test-failure-report-679863

If you guys know any international paper that covered this story please share because 'the diplomat' is also sceptical now.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/05/did-india-hide-a-failed-supersonic-missile-test/
"It is not possible to independently verify either claim at this stage. Interestingly, however, there were no pictures or videos of the May 15 launch or of the interceptor missile in flight published, something which is otherwise regularly done by Indian authorities."

The whole point of starting the thread was not mud slinging but to understand why DRDO lied .Is it because they were trying to create a false sense of power imbalance in the region.A simple statement could have have came by now, to clarify or rebuke Hindu but there's silence.

@MilSpec It not me its your own country that calls it a variant of Prithvi..Please dont target the messenger.

@Joe Shearer @Arsalan Check it out.

 

[GodToons]

Ok here is another one affirming.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/recent-interceptor-missile-test-failure-report-679863

If you guys know any international paper that covered this story please share because 'the diplomat' is also sceptical now.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/05/did-india-hide-a-failed-supersonic-missile-test/
"It is not possible to independently verify either claim at this stage. Interestingly, however, there were no pictures or videos of the May 15 launch or of the interceptor missile in flight published, something which is otherwise regularly done by Indian authorities."

The whole point of starting the thread was not mud slinging but to understand why DRDO lied .Is it because they were trying to create a false sense of power imbalance in the region.A simple statement could have have came by now, to clarify or rebuke Hindu but there's silence.

@MilSpec It not me its your own country that calls it a variant of Prithvi..Please dont target the messenger.

Bro.. atleast read the sources you are mentioning as evidences to your arguments..

your links is using The Hindu as source of the report and quoting extensively. Apart from Hindu, no other media has picked up the story implies the credibility of the Hindu source.

DRDO as an agency do not bull shit, recent examples are admission of Nirbhaya and Aakash test when they are not successful.

 

[cerberus]

Ok here is another one affirming.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/recent-interceptor-missile-test-failure-report-679863

If you guys know any international paper that covered this story please share because 'the diplomat' is also sceptical now.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/05/did-india-hide-a-failed-supersonic-missile-test/
"It is not possible to independently verify either claim at this stage. Interestingly, however, there were no pictures or videos of the May 15 launch or of the interceptor missile in flight published, something which is otherwise regularly done by Indian authorities."

The whole point of starting the thread was not mud slinging but to understand why DRDO lied .Is it because they were trying to create a false sense of power imbalance in the region.A simple statement could have have came by now, to clarify or rebuke Hindu but there's silence.

@MilSpec It not me its your own country that calls it a variant of Prithvi..Please dont target the messenger.

Do you read any of the sources before posting shows how objective you

All source's just quoting hindu as its primary source

Nothing less when do you guys start regarding media

You guys are famous to call news groups geo news & Dawn as traitor when its goes against narrative of your Army. Specially Zarb-e-azab

 

[Counterpunch]

I can't understand whats this hullabaloo all about?
Pakistan's test do fail at times and so happens with rest of the countries. Technology is not immune to failures and the ever evolving parameters validation attempts testify in itself that there are things that are required to be improved and there are still things that are required to be corrected in every costly launch

We are growing low on quality. Could hardly read beyond the first page

 

[livingdead]

I would trust Hindu than DRDO any day.. infact even Times of India is more credible than DRDO

I can't understand whats this hullabaloo all about?
Pakistan's test do fail at times and so happens with rest of the countries. Technology is not immune to failures and the ever evolving parameters validation attempts testify in itself that there are things that are required to be improved and there are still things that are required to be corrected in every costly launch

We are growing low on quality. Could hardly read beyond the first page

its about hiding failure... there was no need.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Hindu is the most anti-Hindu newspaper in India.

They are the best in the Business when it comes to

1) Communist propaganda - Readers would not even have a slightest hint of it

2) Use of very decent and polished language - Very well sugar coated

3) Highly recommended for kids who wants to develop good grammar & vocabulary. Parents can be assured that the kid would not being exposed to X-rated language or pictures

As a kid I use to read three news papers

The Hindu - Communist POV

Newstime - TDP POV

DC - Congress POV and of course the movie ads & timings



Once you are tied to an ideology your point of view is already biased. So how can you question others who do not subscribe to yours?

Only a independent non-ideological person has the right to question the stand taken by the ideologists - be it Communists, or Socialists or Islamists or Hindutvavaadis.

For the simple reason that independence and opposition to prevailing ideology is itself an ideology.
Any who have problems with this need to understand Russell's Paradox, instead of coming up with stunning summations that speak to us of our failure to educate our youth.

I can't understand whats this hullabaloo all about?
Pakistan's test do fail at times and so happens with rest of the countries. Technology is not immune to failures and the ever evolving parameters validation attempts testify in itself that there are things that are required to be improved and there are still things that are required to be corrected in every costly launch

We are growing low on quality. Could hardly read beyond the first page

It spiralled down very rapidly with insisting that the DRDO never lies, because it is the Indian Defence Research and Development Organisation, and linking that to The Hindu's unwillingness to play along with the myth-making of the bhakts. So it was very conveniently the atoot ang of Indian defence against a Commie (because it is not pro-bhakt) rag. No contest.

 

[dadeechi]

The whole point of starting the thread was not mud slinging but to understand why DRDO lied .Is it because they were trying to create a false sense of power imbalance in the region.A simple statement could have have came by now, to clarify or rebuke Hindu but there's silence.

Indian ABM is a total failure like Indian nuclear tests.

The question is not about what The Hindu is reporting but Why?

India was suppose to procure at least a dozen S-400s for a deal worth more than $10 Billion but since the incumbent government is west leaning they have not been closing the deal. Hindu by reporting this news is forcing the government to take some action on that front.

On the other hand nuclear tests were classified as success by the previous government to allow them to agree to sign CTBT, FMCT agreements.

I can't understand whats this hullabaloo all about?

The issue is less about the tests and more about who published the news.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

It spiralled down very rapidly with insisting that the DRDO never lies, because it is the Indian Defence Research and Development Organisation, and linking that to The Hindu's unwillingness to play along with the myth-making of the bhakts. So it was very conveniently the atoot ang of Indian defence against a Commie (because it is not pro-bhakt) rag. No contest.

DRDO has NO reason to lie

We have been struggling with Nirbhay Missile and Kaveri engine and LCA 's problems

Did DRDO lie about about these projects

Whereas The Hindu is Borderline " SEDITIOUS " ( My favourite word in this world :Sedition )

It has always PREACHED Compromises with China and Pakistan

And even on Kashmir it is soft towards the separatists

And there is no doubt about Their Pro communist ideology

Why would they like to see India getting stronger and standing upto China

The issue is less about the tests and more about who published the news.

DRDO 's credibility is a MILLION times more than The Hindu News paper

 

[MilSpec]

@MilSpec It not me its your own country that calls it a variant of Prithvi..Please dont target the messenger.

Does it now? Please show me who does so?

 

[Tripoli]

DRDO has NO reason to lie

We have been struggling with Nirbhay Missile and Kaveri engine and LCA 's problems

Did DRDO lie about about these projects

Whereas The Hindu is Borderline " SEDITIOUS " ( My favourite word in this world :Sedition )

It has always PREACHED Compromises with China and Pakistan

And even on Kashmir it is soft towards the separatists

And there is no doubt about Their Pro communist ideology

Why would they like to see India getting stronger and standing upto China



DRDO 's credibility is a MILLION times more than The Hindu News paper

I agree DRDO most of the time does not lie however the sensitive nature of an ABM system and its far reaching effects on neighboring nations might have force it do so. The missile could have succeeded in some parameters and failed in others.
Success or failiure in this case depends upon the interpretation of the results.(which I believe are not public yet)

 

[Joe Shearer]

I agree DRDO most of the time does not lie however the sensitive nature of an ABM system and its far reaching effects on neighboring nations might have force it do so. The missile could have succeeded in some parameters and failed in others.
Success or failiure in this case depends upon the interpretation of the results.(which I believe are not public yet)

I suspect that what actually happened is that someone in DRDO was careless in briefing the press and used imprecise language. Usually these scientists are precise to a fault, and seem to be obsessed with why something happened, rather than what happened; they are not the skilful wordsmiths that the MNCs employ.

Now if a hawk-eyed science/industry/defence correspondent saw this imprecision and pounced on it, it causes worry, because coming from The Hindu, it makes a lot of impact - not among the imbecile fan-boys who prowl the Internet looking for their favourite word, sedition, but among thinking people.

The rest was the impact of the jobless pouncing onto a cause du jour.

Best ignored until DRDO clarifies.

 

[EXPERIMENT]

I suspect that what actually happened is that someone in DRDO was careless in briefing the press and used imprecise language. Usually these scientists are precise to a fault, and seem to be obsessed with why something happened, rather than what happened; they are not the skilful wordsmiths that the MNCs employ.

Now if a hawk-eyed science/industry/defence correspondent saw this imprecision and pounced on it, it causes worry, because coming from The Hindu, it makes a lot of impact - not among the imbecile fan-boys who prowl the Internet looking for their favourite word, sedition, but among thinking people.

The rest was the impact of the jobless pouncing onto a cause du jour.

Best ignored until DRDO clarifies.

That was a thread shutting argument. Still cannot think of how to counter that.

 

[Joe Shearer]

That was a thread shutting argument. Still cannot think of how to counter that.

?

What's to counter? Don't you agree with the reconstruction? I thought that was the only logical way things could have proceeded. If you agree, just step right up and say so!

 

[dadeechi]

DRDO 's credibility is a MILLION times more than The Hindu News paper

I would say DRDO's patriotism is unquestionable while their credibility is debatable. That does not mean that they are lying but only that they have under delivered.

On the other hand The Hindu, well the less said the better...