Indus! Indus! Indus!

[Nilgiri]

When they do they are huge. 2010 floods effectively inundated the entire Indus riverine zone from north to 1,000 miles right south on the Arabian Sea. This dam will stabilize the zone.

Indus indus indus, is your new cha cha cha song?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Indus indus indus, is your new cha cha cha song?

I think I would have made a great propagandist. Put me in charge of Pakistan Information Ministry and in 10 years you would have a generation of uber-nationalists praying to the green flag and ready to spill blood for the Indus.

 

[ali_raza]

we wont..at this moment you still have water shortage DURING WINTER OFF PEAK SEASON..
first solve that problem via dam builidng

though afterwards a barrages like sindh and KPK lft bank are planned(previoulsy would be kalabagh dam now justa low head barrage)


or can make huge fisheries..
second is more likely in Pakistan with fluctuating water levels..look at tarbela for example

we already have that barrage it’s called jinnah barrage

I think I would have made a great propagandist. Put me in charge of Pakistan Information Ministry and in 10 years you would have a generation of uber-nationalists praying to the green flag and ready to spill blood for the Indus.

indus is such a blessing i cannot even explain cos most our country men lack knowledge to grasp these things
indus is a system nit just one river.
it orignates from lake mansrover in tibet later it joins with shyok.and then its called indus befor that its not a river but just a small stream.
anyway all along its way countless small big water bodies join with mighty indus
its yearly water discharge is 280-350 million acre feet.
we get 60-70% of all of it
india gets 25% rest is afghanistan and china with small portions
we have a huge canal system which is 140 maf so still we r surplus right
but no we waste 20 maf water bad practices like shady canals evaporations and sufaida trees(5 maf) just feom this monster.
then we throw away 20-30 maf into sea depending on season
but ironically we r short on water
because this whole gravy train comes for 4 summer months and then 8 months we get nothing much from indus
the people who say we don’t eed dam need to be shot
we need laws which can completely stop water to the farmers who doesn’t go drip irrigation or sprinklers irrigation
which is 70% funded by world bank btw
we have 200 acre land on drip
and there should be ban on sugar can cultivation
close all sugar mills
hybrid crops should be introduced
at least triple the yeald
this country can feed half the world if some one with a little vision comes
not like ik who disappoints me
cos he got no balls
he loves the country but toothless
gen zia type man is wht we needs

 

[Joe Shearer]

Pakistan needs full-focus on water management to nullify any advantage India might try to obtain from occupied Kashmir.

While Pakistan will continue to reap benefits of its conquest of Azad Kashmir---that connected us to China and its vast markets and also to Central Asia---while Pakistani take over of Azad Kashmir/Gilgit-Baltistan cut India off from Central Asia routes, thereby containing it within a large physical space that is geostrategically useless.

Now if Pakistan builds a massive network of dams, water storage facilities, and efficient water distribution system--Indians' threat for creating water shortages in Pakistan will be nullified without firing a single bullet.

Win-Win for Pakistan

India never obstructed the flow of water to Pakistan, or created water shortages. If you get pleasure out of winning victories in your mind, be our collective guest.

Greatest geo strategic decision we ever made was to free Azad Kashmir and GB

Contact your Head of Department for an update. The geostrategic decision was to annex Kashmir - the whole of Kashmir - by force, not just Pakistan-Administered Kashmir.

Like I’m looking at studies I did on the Canadian system. They have issues maintaining their ecosystem. Plus Pakistan has the Indus River Dolphin but I don’t think it’ll be an issue here


I guess you can breed fish in dams but is there an effect on the local ecosystem?

There is always an effect on the local ecosystem. People designing and building dams have to balance the economic benefits against the ecological damage. In every case.

how is a dam going to be feed water to a river ? dams can store water. it is a lot of cheap electricity

By regulating water flow. Retain excess water in seasons of water flow increase, release stored water in seasons of shortage. Feeding your canal systems is done downstream, not from these upstream regulators.

 

[AUz]

India never obstructed the flow of water to Pakistan, or created water shortages. If you get pleasure out of winning victories in your mind, be our collective guest.

What does that mean? Even if we go by your take, just because india hasn't built storage dams on Indus and other Pakistani rivers yet---it doesn't mean it wont in future. So Pakistan needs to shore up its internal water storage capacity to nullify(to a large extent) any possible Indian missteps upstream in the future

And please, I am not a bharti to have to imagine mythical victories and self-masturbate like you lot has to do, thanks to the humiliating history of your capital Delhi being ruled by foreign powers for almost a 1000 years!.

I have seen educated computer scientist aunties here in the bay area talking about how Hindus "won" against Mughals/Islam/Muslims because Hindus didn't convert. I was like yeah sure aunty----mighty superpowers of their era like British, French, the Ottomans, Mughals, the U.S etc all lost to the conquered places like India, Myanmar, parts of Africa, Bulgaria, Iraq etc since a lot of these places didn't convert to either Islam or Christianity.

And the aunty was SO gullible that she literally said yes exactly beta.....unironically

Btw, run-of-the-river dams are not totally innocuous for the downstream populations, esp in hostile context like that of Indo-Pak. But oh well, another discussion at other time.

 

[padamchen]

What does that mean? Even if we go by your take, just because india hasn't built storage dams on Indus and other Pakistani rivers yet---it doesn't mean it wont in future. So Pakistan needs to shore up its internal water storage capacity to nullify(to a large extent) any possible Indian missteps upstream in the future

And please, I am not a bharti to have to imagine mythical victories and self-masturbate like you lot has to do, thanks to the humiliating history of your capital Delhi being ruled by foreign powers for almost a 1000 years!.

I have seen educated computer scientist aunties here in the bay area talking about how Hindus "won" against Mughals/Islam/Muslims because Hindus didn't convert. I was like yeah sure aunty----mighty superpowers of their era like British, French, the Ottomans, Mughals, the U.S etc all lost to the conquered places like India, Myanmar, parts of Africa, Bulgaria, Iraq etc since a lot of these places didn't convert to either Islam or Christianity.

And the aunty was SO gullible that she literally said yes exactly beta.....unironically

Btw, run-of-the-river dams are not totally innocuous for the downstream populations, esp in hostile context like that of Indo-Pak. But oh well, another discussion at other time.

The aunties know what life and identity is about.

You do not.

 

[AUz]

The aunties know what life and identity is about.

You do not.

Yeah, sure

 

[padamchen]

Yeah, sure

Were those aunties descendants of converts or still following their ancestral faith unmolested?

 

[Joe Shearer]

What does that mean? Even if we go by your take, just because india hasn't built storage dams on Indus and other Pakistani rivers yet---it doesn't mean it wont in future. So Pakistan needs to shore up its internal water storage capacity to nullify(to a large extent) any possible Indian missteps upstream in the future

And please, I am not a bharti to have to imagine mythical victories and self-masturbate like you lot has to do, thanks to the humiliating history of your capital Delhi being ruled by foreign powers for almost a 1000 years!.

I have seen educated computer scientist aunties here in the bay area talking about how Hindus "won" against Mughals/Islam/Muslims because Hindus didn't convert. I was like yeah sure aunty----mighty superpowers of their era like British, French, the Ottomans, Mughals, the U.S etc all lost to the conquered places like India, Myanmar, parts of Africa, Bulgaria, Iraq etc since a lot of these places didn't convert to either Islam or Christianity.

And the aunty was SO gullible that she literally said yes exactly beta.....unironically

Btw, run-of-the-river dams are not totally innocuous for the downstream populations, esp in hostile context like that of Indo-Pak. But oh well, another discussion at other time.

By that logic, the fact that you haven't gone stark, raving mad yet doesn't mean that you won't in future.

It takes someone totally unbalanced to come out with this kind of justification: NO amount of internal water storage capacity will nullify blockage of water upstream. Think it out.

As for the rest, do keep up with aunties who are educated computer scientists and keep yourself updated, as you seem to be hinting that they and your refutations of them is the source of much of your innovative thinking.

The mention of the run-of-the-river dams was in line with the rest of your post, as you seem not to understand what run-of-the-river means; if you did, you would not see them as threats.

Don't bother to reply; if this is a specimen of your thinking, save it for your exams.

 

[AUz]

By that logic, the fact that you haven't gone stark, raving mad yet doesn't mean that you won't in future.

Lol, totally childish. india is Pak's enemy and Pak's water originating in Kashmir can be used by that enemy to coerce Pak in future. Hence, preparations are warranted. Your logic of me going mad is totally out of line here.

It takes someone totally unbalanced to come out with this kind of justification: NO amount of internal water storage capacity will nullify blockage of water upstream. Think it out.

Lol, you....like most indians AND Pakistanis dont really know the actual issue at hand. You seem to mistakenly think that massively large rivers like Indus or Ganga etc can be just 'cut-off' completely at the source. This is hilariously ignorant. Look it up....*MOST* of the water that Indus carries through Punjab/Sindh into river is generated *within* Pakistan via glacier melt, ice caps, and so on in Himyalas/GB etc. india can only hinder a portion of water supply in Indus in the future, potentially. It can't just cut it off completely. Hence, to deal with possible Indian cutting into water share of Indus---Pakistan should built better and comprehensive storage capacity to nullify that Indian move as much as possible. This is basic water management....to store water to deal with future shortages for some reason (whether droughts, climate change, and so on). Along with water storage, efficient use of water resources in agriculture will go a lonnnngggggg way. Anyways...

The mention of the run-of-the-river dams was in line with the rest of your post, as you seem not to understand what run-of-the-river means; if you did, you would not see them as threats.

Run-of-the-river dams are not totally innocuous. Yes, they are no way near as threatening as larger Hydro-storage dams to Pakistan. But still, run-of-the-river dams do impact water availability in the river....even if for the time being.

Anyways, bye.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Lol, totally childish. india is Pak's enemy and Pak's water originating in Kashmir can be used by that enemy to coerce Pak in future. Hence, preparations are warranted. Your logic of me going mad is totally out of line here.

Oh, quite. Let it remain.

Lol, you....like most indians AND Pakistanis dont really know the actual issue at hand. You seem to mistakenly think that massively large rivers like Indus or Ganga etc can be just 'cut-off' completely at the source. This is hilariously ignorant. Look it up....*MOST* of the water that Indus carries through Punjab/Sindh into river is generated *within* Pakistan via glacier melt, ice caps, and so on in Himyalas/GB etc. india can only hinder a portion of water supply in Indus in the future, potentially. It can't just cut it off completely. Hence, to deal with possible Indian cutting into water share of Indus---Pakistan should built better and comprehensive storage capacity to nullify that Indian move as much as possible. This is basic water management....to store water to deal with future shortages for some reason (whether droughts, climate change, and so on). Along with water storage, efficient use of water resources in agriculture will go a lonnnngggggg way. Anyways...

The reference is entirely to the volume of water flowing downstream from the point of impoundment.f

Run-of-the-river dams are not totally innocuous. Yes, they are no way near as threatening as larger Hydro-storage dams to Pakistan. But still, run-of-the-river dams do impact water availability in the river....even if for the time being.

Anyways, bye.

In other words, even if it doesn't affect the water availability, it affects the water availability.

If you say so.