Indonesia Turning Away From ASEAN?

[nufix]

yes, you can seek your role outside the bloc. there is no place for self proclaimer leader, nor big brother for you in asean. not even in 1,000 years.

need mirror viet?

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

need mirror viet?

Don't bother with him he got his head so far up his own arse he can't even see shit.

 

[terranMarine]

the beggar Viet needed to release some phoop after too much pho

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

A more balanced article...

Indonesia Remains Committed to Asean, Envoy Says
By Jakarta Globe on 08:24 am Dec 08, 2014
Category Featured, Front Page, News, Politics
Tags: Asean, Joko Widodo

SingaporeanPrime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, left, and IndonesianPresident Joko Widodo arrive for the Asean-US Summit at the Myanmar International Convention Center in Myanmar's capital Naypyidaw on Nov. 13, 2014. (AFP Photo/Mandel Ngan)

Jakarta. Indonesia remains very committed to the Association of Southeast Asian Nations and it is involved in finding solutions to the grouping’s problems despite the emphasis of President Joko Widodo’s government on pressing domestic issues, the country’s envoy to the regional bloc said.

In an interview with the Jakarta Globe, Indonesian Ambassador to Asean Rahmat Pramono said many foreign leaders and diplomats were concerned that Indonesia’s preoccupation with domestic issues would see the country scale down its involvement in regional and global matters.

“There are no grounds for these doubts. President Joko Widodo has guaranteed that Indonesia would actively participate in efforts to make the world a more peaceful place,” Rahmat said.

He said Joko was aware of Indonesia’s constitutional duty to play an active role in creating and maintaining world peace.

“As far as Asean is concerned, Indonesia will continue to be actively involved in the community building process,” Rahmat said.

In fact, the ambassador said, his main focus now was preparing for the launch of the Asean Economic Community by the end of next year.

“All our resources are geared to meet the requirements for a regional community, such as the free movement of people, goods and services, as well as closer people-to-people contacts,” he said.

Just after his inauguration in October, Joko attended three crucial global meetings — the APEC meeting in China, the Asean Summit in Myanmar and the Group of 20 Summit in Australia.

Experts have praised Joko’s performance at the gatherings, saying that he showed other leaders that Indonesia would not isolate itself from the world as many have feared.

But Joko has insisted that he would prioritize diplomatic relationships that provide significant benefits for Indonesia.

“Our [foreign] policy is free and active: befriend all countries but [we will put first] those who benefit our people the most,” Joko said. “What’s the point of having many friends but we only get disadvantages? Many friends should bring many benefits.”

His comments follow similar sentiments from Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi last month. The country’s first female foreign minister said “pro-people” diplomacy would be the soul of Indonesia’s foreign policy, a shift from former president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono’s “thousand friends, zero enemies” principle, which was seen in the country’s increasing presence and roles in international forums.

Joko used his time at the Asean Summit to showcase his vision of turning the world’s largest archipelago into a global “maritime axis.” At the G-20 Summit in Brisbane last month, he renewed his vow to make Indonesia’s business climate more investor friendly by implementing tax reforms and cutting fuel subsidies to pay for infrastructure development.

Rahmat said Indonesia’s two foreign policy priorities are securing the country’s territory and protecting its migrant workers abroad.

“We will finalize our border agreements with all Asean countries plus Timor-Leste,” he said.

He added that Indonesia would also push for a legally binding labor treaty within the Asean region.

Indonesia Remains Committed to Asean, Envoy Says - The Jakarta GlobeIndonesia Remains Committed to Asean, Envoy Says - The Jakarta Globe

 

[NarThoD]

yes, you can seek your role outside the bloc. there is no place for self proclaimer leader, nor big brother for you in asean. not even in 1,000 years.

Pfft how important Vietnam in the eyes of the world? I don't want to mock your country. But patience has it own limit

Economy?
Geopolitics?

No?

Then shut up or you'll make your country's image much worse in this forum

 

[dichoi]

the beggar Viet needed to release some phoop after too much pho

chinese invented beggars band first in China, there is big job of Chinese.

 

[NarThoD]

Don't bother with him he got his head so far up his own arse he can't even see shit.

There are rule in this world


1. Vietnam never false
2.if Vietnam doing something wrong. Check above rule

 

[dichoi]

There are rule in this world


1. Vietnam never false
2.if Vietnam doing something wrong. Check above rule

I think Hua people control economy of Indonesia like Thai land, is this right ?

 

[cirr]

chinese invented beggars band first in China, there is big job of Chinese.

R@ts galore.

 

[dichoi]

R@ts galore.

r@t do his job in Peking 1972, begged his master for join.

 

[NarThoD]

I think Hua people control economy of Indonesia like Thai land, is this right ?

Control economy? Nope
Our economy holder are Javanese minangkabau and Chinese minority Google bakrie group. Salim group.

How about Vietnam? Chinese majority?

 

[dichoi]

Control economy? Nope
Our economy holder are Javanese minangkabau and Chinese minority Google bakrie group. Salim group.

How about Vietnam? Chinese majority?

In Vietnam, economy is controlled by state own companies and other foreigner investors: Japan, Korean, Taiwanese etc.

Chinese minority people in Vietnam is around 850,000 people. they do best in retail market only.

As I know that the Minangkabu people is very smart people in Indonesia. is this right ?

 

[NiceGuy]

Pfft how important Vietnam in the eyes of the world? I don't want to mock your country. But patience has it own limit

Economy?
Geopolitics?

No?

Then shut up or you'll make your country's image much worse in this forum

We r in the center of ASEAN region, from VN, US-Russia can control the whole ASEAN. we have the best naval base (Cam Ranh bay) in the region . Thats why both Russia-US wanna own Cam Ranh base .

U r big bro just bcz u have big territory. U r just like Sahara desert, big..... but just a big desert, thats all.

 

[Viet]

Pfft how important Vietnam in the eyes of the world? I don't want to mock your country. But patience has it own limit

Economy?
Geopolitics?

No?

Then shut up or you'll make your country's image much worse in this forum

first, ASEAN is an economic club. second, all members have equal rights. last, the bloc acts on consensus. All of these principles seem NEW to you and other Indo members.

I just said if you are against these rules and unhappy, you can leave. the topic of this thread is indonesia wants to go.

Vietnam is happy within the bloc. We don't seek a leadership role.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

I think Hua people control economy of Indonesia like Thai land, is this right ?

Control economy? Nope. Our economy holder are Javanese minangkabau and Chinese minority Google bakrie group. Salim group. How about Vietnam? Chinese majority?

In Vietnam, economy is controlled by state own companies and other foreigner investors: Japan, Korean, Taiwanese etc. Chinese minority people in Vietnam is around 850,000 people. they do best in retail market only. As I know that the Minangkabu people is very smart people in Indonesia. is this right ?

In Indonesia, the biggest corporation are belong to Government, The state-owned enterprises. There are more than 140 business unit, that gain profit margin around $167 BIllion/years (1$=Rp12000) and increasing every years. This income almost the same as the Indonesian state budget/years, which is also increasing every year (please defferentiate our state budget with our GDP, our GDP itself almost $1Trillion/years), helping to push forward our development plan across the country.

For the richest person, mostly form java, minang, chinese, etc...
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We r in the center of ASEAN region, from VN, US-Russia can control the whole ASEAN. we have the best naval base (Cam Ranh bay) in the region. Thats why both Russia-US wanna own Cam Ranh base. U r big bro just bcz u have big territory. U r just like Sahara desert, big..... but just a big desert, thats all.

You're in the center of ASEAN geographically, but the ASEAN gravity is located down south. Indonesia also control the busiest sea trading channel in the world, and once we tighten our maritime control with our maritime axis policy, Indonesian clout within ASEAN and Indian & Pacific Ocean will be more prominent.

Indonesia is desert? big but just desert? wow... that's what uninformed mind will tell about Indonesia's rich natural wealth. Indonesia's land and sea is full of treasure that ready for grab. We are naturally rich, very very rich. And with the leadership and political will from current administration, Indonesia ready to reap its harvest time.
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first, ASEAN is an economic club. second, all members have equal rights. last, the bloc acts on consensus. All of these principles seem NEW to you and other Indo members. I just said if you are against these rules and unhappy, you can leave. the topic of this thread is indonesia wants to go. Vietnam is happy within the bloc. We don't seek a leadership role.

Nobody against anything. Any country can leave ASEAN but not Indonesia, since we are the Founder of ASEAN. ASEAN is Indonesian diplomacy artworks. I guess we are all happy then. Let's move on..


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