Indonesia Pushes Ahead with Iver Huitfeldt Frigate Variant.

[Indos]

@Indos
I am aware of the tragic accident of KRI Klewang, but how investigation has came out to be? I have had eyes on some technical reports regarding to incident stating that composition of composites which led some parts to be highly flammable and caused the fire, and inefficient ventilation of the places which maintenance were conducted also led this to happen. but what are the chances of sabotage?

So far there is no news that saying there is sabotage possibility on the incident

My question is rather, i remember 4 boats were planned, 1st has caught fire and burnt down (luckily without any critical equipments were installed-i suppose- and no casualties) but has 2nd or 3rd vessel been commissioned? Hadn't builder North Sea Boats already started construction of the 2nd vessel after launching the 1st?

There is not yet another boat being commissioned. I saw some picture that people said as the second boat being constructed but until Today there is no second boat being launched. The first boat hasnt been delivered to our Navy so it hasnt been paid. Maybe there was insurance company which paid the lost. According to the news being circulated, they are researching a better material.

The vessel undoubtedly will have great use in the future as PB or FAB and fits perfect to be unmanned , and i still have doubts for larger variants with landing platform due to economical limits of composite boat building,but who knows. Trimaran is still a nice concept that steel or aluminium construction could have been worked through.
i know ongoing R&D of Saab for unmanned version but Indonesia seems out of this unmanned project as of now. Also, Indonesian Navy seems a bit unwilling to operate large composite - unorthodox trimaran vessel. Especially considering TNI has given up on Chinese systems and faced towards European alternatives for radars, CMS or missles, and Klewang FAB was planned to be equipped with Chinese systems, what are the chances or modifying remaining boats?.

I dont think Klewang is designed to use Chinese system, as far as I know they will use Saab system, including the weapon since the company has close cooperation with Saab. Currently they are developing unmanned vessel with Saab called Bonefist and has been shown in 2016 Indodefense. I also show Klewang design with Saab system and weapon some time ago

Lundin Bonefish

Given the current situation, i assumed they were busy with converting the design for European systems (millenium gun-which i believe suits much better than Bofors- + MM40 + Radars), before launching 1st vessel of the series; or did they scrap the project and preferred to have just 1 as an experimental vessel, or maybe 4 of the first batch of the vessels as a patrol boat?

They maybe just scrapped the entire project after the lost. As I said the Klewang is design to use Saab system, not Chinese one since the start.

which i still didn't quite understood why Indonesia has gone for KCR40-KCR60 designs instead of investing in single hull composites and creating series of multi purpose boats? . Especially assuming these vessels will be acquired in mass numbers, composite hull could have had benefits while building and operating -maintaining.
I can instead ask this question in a new thread if it attracts people.

Yup, they look like to be used as hit and run missile boat operating near our soars. I am not an expert but as far as I know KCR40 use composites while KCR60 uses steel. Until so far Navy is still building KCR 60 in PT PAL and they dont give any new contract for KCR 40.

 

[ANMDT]

I dont think Klewang is designed to use Chinese system, as far as I know they will use Saab system, including the weapon since the company has close cooperation with Saab. Currently they are developing unmanned vessel with Saab called Bonefist and has been shown in 2016 Indodefense. I also show Klewang design with Saab system and weapon some time ago

I knew this , yet still some Indonesians (not in the forum) have kept insisting on Chinese missiles, so i assumed that to be true , by considering adoption of Chinese systems back then.

KCR40 use composites

details of KCR40 highly resembles steel construction, especially the deck. If KCR40 was composites, they would also construct KCR60 by composites (as they concern about RCS)

They maybe just scrapped the entire project after the lost. As I said the Klewang is design to use Saab system, not Chinese one since the start.

It would be a big loss for Indonesian navy if they had scrapped the project.

Thanks by the way, i just needed to ask if there was any news which hasn't been mentioned in the web, or the forum.

 

[PeacefulWar]

Yup individual protestors and stuff voice entirety of their govt/people on some issue.

I guess we should afford the same argument and logic to Hong Kong protestors....oh wait.

You are funny.
No denying we have some HKers protesting.
But you India have freedom soldiers and Maoist soldiers who are actually massacre your pussy army and polices in daily basis.
You really want discuss this topic?