Indonesia Maritime defence and security issue

[William Hung]

No ball to fight for your own citizen right just say it. I afraid your anti-China pact wll only do more harm than benefit.

Respectable countries never protect criminals who have committed crime on foreign soil, they let the law decide. When Viet fisherman illegally fish on Filipino water, the Viet govt never protest once the Filipino court proves that the Viet fishermen has broken their law.

As respectable countries, the Viet acknowledges the illegal fishermen acts and ask the Filipino to pardon on humanitarian ground. As respectable and responsible friends, the Filipino usually release the Viets fishermen.

However, China has always fight for the their criminal fishermen and reject the rule of law. And what do you call people who rejects the rule of law and fight for criminals?

So I don't know why you talk about balls. There are now 9 Chinese fishermen in Filipino custody. China rejects the Filipino rule of law and warned the Filipino about facing certain consequences. But those Chinese poachers are in Filipino prison for almost a year now without any intervention from China. So what did you say about balls again?

 

[Aepsilons]

Impressive to see Indonesia has a 'No Tolerance' Policy.

Indonesian friends, you remind me of how Japanese Coast Guard treat illegal North Korean fishermen into Japanese Maritime Territory:

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

we face this issue on a much larger scale from indian fishermen... n fuk we are still show em mercy...

 

[William Hung]

Vietnam can't defend their fishermen anywhere. This shows your Viet government is feckless and impotent - better at arresting their own citizens lest they offend the Chinese government too much.

Yes yes, no guts to stand up against Indonesia, just says it.

There are now 9 Chinese fishermen in a Filipino prison. China has always warned the Philippines from day 1 to release those Chinese poachers or face consequences.

But the Chinese fishermen has been locked in Filipino prison for almost 1 year now.

So China is gutless and impotent according to you.

we face this issue on a much larger scale from indian fishermen... n fuk we are still show em mery...

Illegal poaching is a serious issue no matter who is carrying out those activities. It affects the food sources of the future generation.

I applaud the Indonesian govt for taking this hard stance. And I applaud the Viet members who understand this issue.

Only criminals will fail to see this serious poaching issue and try to talk about balls and fighting for the illegal poachers.

 

[taka]

 

[Indos]

No need to use any provocative tone here mate

Respect for all Vietnamese here who understand our act

 

[BoQ77]

Yes yes, no guts to stand up against Indonesia, just says it.

We respect the Indonesian EEZ,
As you know Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, ... agreed the COC for overlapped areas.

So why Vietnam has to stand up for illegal fishing ? We would protest if Indonesian authority sink the boat with fishermen on board

 

[cirr]

I see that the Viet govt is not defending their fishermen when thise fishermen breaks foreign law. This shows the Viet govt has responsibility and respect for foreign laws.

Unlike China, who keeps on moaning and crying about their illegal Chinese poachers who have killed endangered marine species. Even though with their moaning and crying, the Chinese govt still can't do anything to save their imprisoned chinese fishermen.

So you are saying that your government，whichever it might be because you hide your flag for despicable reasons，should leave its fishermen to their own fate？

Yours is indeed a government of the people，by the people，for the people。

Vietnam can't defend their fishermen anywhere. This shows your Viet government is feckless and impotent - better at arresting their own citizens lest they offend the Chinese government too much.

He is basically saying that the Chinese coast guards should shoot to kill next time Vietnamese fishermen are found violating Chinese territorial waters in their pursuit of a meagre existence。

 

[xunzi]

This is just a message send by Indonesia that was carefully graft to target the Vietnamese poacher. Everyone knows the Vietnamese are jealous of Indonesia growing cloud within ASEAN and they are competing for leadership role. One must teach these Vietnamese a lesson if you want to put them in line.

 

[Nike]

please no need to pit us against any country, everything is about the same when facing with our law and order within our territory. Either it will be Chinese, Vietnamese, Australian, Philippine, Malaysian all of them will be treated equally and no one will be spared

 

[xesy]

Sorry for the act of our fishermen.

 

[Ayan81]

wait till you read the news when some chinese fishermen are caught in indonesian waters and their boats blown, you can expect different tones coming from chinese here.

 

[xunzi]

please no need to pit us against any country, everything is about the same when facing with our law and order within our territory. Either it will be Chinese, Vietnamese, Australian, Philippine, Malaysian all of them will be treated equally and no one will be spared

Only innocent actually believe this is not carefully craft. The Philippines have been poaching in Indonesia but you only arrest them, fine, and release. Same with anyone. You chose the Vietnamese to send a message to the rest for obvious reasons. Philippines recently signed a demarcation line agreement. Malaysia and Indonesia have beef. Any miscalculation or action can be interpret as hostile. China is obviously too powerful and we are on good term. So this left the Vietnam as a good target to flesh muscle. Blowing up a ship is just a message send but the one chosen is important.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

This is just a message send by Indonesia that was carefully graft to target the Vietnamese poacher. Everyone knows the Vietnamese are jealous of Indonesia growing cloud within ASEAN and they are competing for leadership role. One must teach these Vietnamese a lesson if you want to put them in line.

Not really the Thai's boat will suffer the same fate & so will every boat to come:

Thailand illegal fishing boats captured, waiting similar fate

December 14th, the execution day. 5 thailand illegal fishing boat in waiting mode...

 

[Nike]

Only innocent actually believe this is not carefully craft. The Philippines have been poaching in Indonesia but you only arrest them, fine, and release. Same with anyone. You chose the Vietnamese to send a message to the rest for obvious reasons. Philippines recently signed a demarcation line agreement. Malaysia and Indonesia have beef. Any miscalculation or action can be interpret as hostile. China is obviously too powerful and we are on good term. So this left the Vietnam as a good target to flesh muscle. Blowing up a ship is just a message send but the one chosen is important.

nah, it is not true, we had been fighting against illegal poacher and fishing for so long including against Phil. and Chinese. And believe me, we don't giving any shit against them, regardless from whatever country they come.