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[Nike]

@ardezzo its not nice when u are very cherry picking on your arguments. Even if Ahok is wrong on those one occassion he had made public apologize several times, even before MUI declared their fatwa and after that, once again is Islam cant forgave him? is our religion very vengeful? is his public remorse mean nothing? what kind of justice you want to held. This my last reply to you i kinda pissed off about your attitudes here

 

[pr1v4t33r]

There will always be a small numbers of HARDLINERS and large numbers of SILENT MAJORITY. The problem is, you only need 1 to 5 hardliner to kill hundreds of people like in Bali bombing. 1 hardliner is too many while millions of silent majority is nothing.

I won't say nothing, because if they are disturbed, millions of silent majority can become millions of headache for this nation. We need them calm to keep this nation sane.

That's why strong law enforcement is not only needed but a must. The majority of Indonesian (not only muslim but all) only want a peaceful living and continue on with their daily life. Life is already hard for most, so the elite shouldn't put more unecessary burden on them. The State role is crucial and important to keep things work orderly and all that.

 

[MacanJawa]

This dude registered yesterday and bring shit up, please this indonesia military thread don't bring anything that don't related

 

[faries]

CSAR Helicopter EC725 Cougar of Indonesian Air Force. Image credit to Adrianus Darmawan.

Indonesian Air Force Para (Paskhas) sniper school 2016 with Denel NTW-20 anti material rifle 20mm/14.5mm. Image credit : sigit_tn6aau2001 & FSM FB Page.

 

[Su-35SM3 Flanker-N]

the radicals call themselves as Muslim when they are conducting their terror acts and suppressing the minorities, in the view of the ones who is being oppressed the one who attacking them is came as Muslim first not yhe other faith, meanwhile the majority yet moderates ones just keep silent or keep have not my business attitudes about the so called "minority" acts. This kind of attitudes is actually very dangerous in the long runs. The moderates should expressing their voices more and limiting the radicals movement by real actions.

There will always be a small numbers of HARDLINERS and large numbers of SILENT MAJORITY

The problem is, you only need 1 to 5 hardliner to kill hundreds of people like in Bali bombing.
1 hardliner is too many while millions of silent majority is nothing.

I disagree that most Indonesian muslims are called "silent majority". If they are truly silent, we won't see the relative stability that we have today.

Muslims are at the forefront in eradicating terror, both in education and law enforcement areas. I can't remember how many times I hear in khutbah Jum'at and pengajian that these terror acts are not appropriate. We often call these terrorists as modern khawarij that spread chaos in the society with their uncompromising principles. Mosques in my areas now have banners that forbid the entry of any people with ISIS and radicalism intentions.

The problem is that FPI and other similar organizations are gaining more followers everday now. since they are getiing more "political support".. If no one will put a stop to this madness then soon God forbid they might have a bigger power than NU or Muhammadiah and will bring chaos to the country with their twisted way of thinking..

NU and Muhammadiyah have much more comprehensive network and influence across the country.

That's the power of media. FPI is actually a media darling and it's an interesting topic to attract audience and readership. A few FPI members that do bad things, the whole world knows. But, when Muhammadiyah opens a new hospital and higher education institution, that contribute so much and positively to the society, who wants report it? It's boring...

 

[ardezzo]

@ardezzo its not nice when u are very cherry picking on your arguments. Even if Ahok is wrong on those one occassion he had made public apologize several times, even before MUI declared their fatwa and after that, once again is Islam cant forgave him? is our religion very vengeful? is his public remorse mean nothing? what kind of justice you want to held. This my last reply to you i kinda pissed off about your attitudes here

Ahok insult the Qur'an thus the religion, so it's beyond us, human, to forgive.
All we ask simply bring him to the court of justice like other blasphemers, show to the world that everybody is equal before the law.

This dude registered yesterday and bring shit up, please this indonesia military thread don't bring anything that don't related

I use to be silent reader, but couldn't stand idly when someone say that "minority being oppressed by the Moslem majority in Indonesia". I have to clear things up.

I do hope that this will be last post here.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

OK, noted. I believe forgiveness is abundant, and God is the most forgiving. There's no point lingering on this issue here. So let's continue with Indonesian military news.

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

www.defence.pk/threads/philippines-gdp-grows-7-1-in-q3-fastest-among-asian-markets.461454/

^^^
Gw kira udahan, eh malah pada lanjut disini

Sorry ini bukan forum ahokers etc

 

[mandala]

Preparing the Leopard 2RI MBT's 120mm ammunition during the Indonesian Army Combined Exercise in Natuna. Credit to TNI-AD.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BND_w99hZdn/

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Gw kira udahan, eh malah pada lanjut disini

Wah, jangan dibangkitin lagi itu threadnya... OOT.

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

Pindad develop new SPR 3 (R300)

Credit to @IMF

Sniper from Kostrad

CSAR Helicopter EC725 Cougar of Indonesian Air Force. Image credit to Adrianus Darmawan.

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Indonesian Air Force Para (Paskhas) sniper school 2016 with Denel NTW-20 anti material rifle 20mm/14.5mm. Image credit : sigit_tn6aau2001 & FSM FB Page.

@IMF

 

[pr1v4t33r]

More update on PT.DI

 

[Marhaenisme]

I hope PAL and Palindo shipyard show their newly ship there.

BTW Sorry OOT Udah lah stop bahas hal2 politik yg nyerempet2 ke agama mayoritas dan minoritas itu semua gk relevan dengan konsep awal negara kita berdiri, malu lah kalian berdebat gk ada ujung nya di sini di lihat orang2 luar...thx

 

[NKRI]

Elang IndoPura 2016

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

More update on PT.DI

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