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[anas_nurhafidz]

From kaskus...Roll out of N219 that was scheduled today canceled, Maybe Thursday.

 

[Indos]

You might want to hear about our MLRS capability from the President Director himself (PT Indo Mesin Utama)

 

[pr1v4t33r]

From kaskus...Roll out of N219 that was scheduled today canceled, Maybe Thursday.

Jokowinya ke Surabaya sama Madura hari ini. Roll out nunggu Jokowi katanya

The problem with Su-35 is on the TOT requirement, Russia is very tricky to deal with especially on contract term. Without good maintenance technology transfers it would be harder to maintain them in high level of combat readiness. In fact from 5 Su-27 we acquire from Russia, currently only two aircraft can still fly, the rest is out of action and maybe being cannibalized for spare parts

That's why we ask for maintenance facilities to be built here. Plus the sudden increase of SU-35 unit that we will aquire, the latest number is 32. Air force is pretty much fixated on this one.

Hi all. Salam hormat untuk sesepuh2 Indonesia di sini. Mohon petunjuk dan bimbingannya.

Welcome aboard comrade!

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

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Jokowinya ke Surabaya sama Madura hari ini. Roll out nunggu Jokowi katanya



That's why we ask for maintenance facilities to be built here. Plus the sudden increase of SU-35 unit that we will aquire, the latest number is 32. Air force is pretty much fixated on this one.



Welcome aboard comrade!

But the latest number and budget proposed to the house of representative (DPR) is only for 12 unit bro.
32 unit maybe the minimum order requirement from Russian side in order to give some of the "TOT". So it still has be proposed to DPR for this new scheme.

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

[photo: F-16 52ID TS1620 @Didik]

The Indonesian Air Force will intensify air patrols in the South China Sea due to the increasing tensions in the South China Sea.

-Indonesian Air Force F-16C/D and Hawk 100/200 jets will routinely patrol the region to anticipate any kind of possibilities.

-The routine air patrols will go under the name "Operation Baruna Nusantara"

-It's worth noting that China invited Indonesia for a joint military exercise, but the Commander of the Indonesian Armed Forces declined.

-The planes are based in Roesmin Nurjadin AFB in Pekanbaru, Sumatra.

-Other airbases will also be used for the operation such as airbases in Pontianak and Jakarta.

Laut China Selatan memanas, F-16 dan Hawk milik TNI rutin patroli | merdeka.com

 

[Krakatau Class]

Theres no official confirmation about F-16 V it seems that our government didnt show interest to the offer although the Air Force would be happy having them because of easier maintenance and the fact that its airframe can be extended to serve for longer years.
The problem with Su-35 is on the TOT requirement, Russia is very tricky to deal with especially on contract term.
Without good maintenance technology transfers it would be harder to maintain them in high level of combat readiness.
In fact from 5 Su-27 we acquire from Russia, currently only two aircraft can still fly, the rest is out of action and maybe being cannibalized for spare parts

Couldn't agree more with our government consideration with showing we're not interested with their offer.
Since the competitor (Su-35) has better attributes than the viper and the most "funny" thing while the others were offered the F-35, we were "only" offered the viper. Even though yeah absolutely it's impossible to get that F-35 deal since we are not US close ally.
Is that for real that it's only 5 of our Su-27 available now ?

From kaskus...Roll out of N219 that was scheduled today canceled, Maybe Thursday.
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Fly Baby Fly

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

After Acquired NC-212 our Army also expected with CN-295 in 2017

 

[Krakatau Class]

Welcome aboard comrade!

Thank you so much brother.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

But the latest number and budget proposed to the house of representative (DPR) is only for 12 unit bro. 32 unit maybe the minimum order requirement from Russian side in order to give some of the "TOT". So it still has be proposed to DPR for this new scheme.

DPR pretty much eager to push through this deal forward. About how we finance the deal, Government will have to come up with a sound plan. This kind of deal will be financed through multi years financing plan, so 12 for the first year is OK. The battle for TOT will be tricky, even now, some say that PTDI refuse to become partner for accepting the TOT from Russia. This is one problem. But, let's hope for the best outcome.

 

[Krakatau Class]

DPR pretty much eager to push through this deal forward. About how we finance the deal, Government will have to come up with a sound plan. This kind of deal will be finance through multi years financing plan, so 12 for the first year is OK. The battle for TOT will be tricky, even now, some say that PTDI refuse to become partner for accepting the TOT from Russia. This is one problem. But, let's hope for the best outcome.

Realistically speaking 32 will be a win win for us and Russia.
Since we need to increase the number of our fighter and on the other side Russia will ask larger amount of order in order to grant the TOT to us.
But unfortunately, DPR-ly speaking it has to be 12

 

[Nike]

Tarakan`s foreign aircraft intrusion still being investigated: Indonesian military
Selasa, 10 November 2015 14:39 WIB | 538 Views

Balikpapan, E Kalimantan (ANTARA News) - The Indonesian Air Force (TNI-AU) investigators on Tuesday continued their probe into the intrusion of a light aircraft piloted by US Navy Lieutenant Colonel James Patrick Murphy, a military officer stated.

"The pilot is still being questioned at the Tarakan Airbase, and we are treating him well," Spokesman of the Mulawarman Regional Military Command Colonel Andi Gunawan stated here on Tuesday.

The company leasing the Cessna propeller engine aircraft, with registration number N96706 that Murphy piloted, had yet to notify a permit for using an emergency route while flying from the Philippines to Singapore, he affirmed.

The pilot revealed to TNI investigators that he had attempted to avoid bad weather, but both the US embassy in Jakarta and the aircraft leasing company could not confirm about the air space violation, he clarified.

When questioned about Murphys status as a US Navy personnel, he replied that the Tarakan Airbase authority was still awaiting the results of the security clearance procedure being handled by the TNI headquarters.

The Cessna propeller engine aircraft was forced to land by two TNI Sukhoi jet fighters at 2:31 p.m. local time on Monday in Tarakan, North Kalimantan.

According to an initial investigation, the Cessna aircraft was piloted by Murphy, a US Navy Reserve who was on leave. He took off from Hawaii to the Philippines and was headed to Singapore.

However, he violated the Indonesian airspace during the flight to Singapore.(*)

Tarakan`s foreign aircraft intrusion still being investigated: Indonesian military - ANTARA News

MenPAN RB Yuddy Chrisnandi (tengah berpeci) tiba untuk menjadi inspektur upacara peringatan Hari Pahlawan di atas kapal perang KRI Banda Aceh di perairan Teluk Jakarta, Selasa (10/11). Upacara yang diikuti para anggota TNI, Polri, purnawirawan dan keluarga para pejuang tersebut mengambil tema Semangat Kepahlawanan adalah Jiwa Ragaku. (ANTARA FOTO/Sigid Kurniawan)

Polisi lalu-lintas menghentikan sejumlah kendaraan dan mengheningkan cipta sejenak untuk memperingati Hari Pahlawan, di kawasan bunderan HI, Jakarta, Selasa (10/11). Kegiatan tersebut sekaligus dalam rangka menghormati jasa-jasa para pejuang dalam mempertahankan kemerdekaan. (ANTARA FOTO/Muhammad Adimaja)

 

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[anas_nurhafidz]

Drifting

 

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[Jakartans@PkDef]

Couldn't agree more with our government consideration with showing we're not interested with their offer.
Since the competitor (Su-35) has better attributes than the viper and the most "funny" thing while the others were offered the F-35, we were "only" offered the viper. Even though yeah absolutely it's impossible to get that F-35 deal since we are not US close ally.
Is that for real that it's only 5 of our Su-27 available now ?

Getting the F35 is not impossible but now it still on 1st batch production and the priority is for partner countries which is participate in the initial investment since the development. Even Singapore cannot get it right now but when all the delivery to the investing country has finished the F35 will enter mass production it will be available to other country include Indonesia.
So the reason we are not being offered F35 is not because we are not close ally but because the priority of the 1st batch production.

The Su-35 of course has better attributes to the viper but having only a squadron of them will not give any effect at all while Australia will get 4-5 squadrons of F35. So basically we are not getting stronger with a few Su-35 when our neighbors start acquiring F-35 in bigger number. Even the current Singapore Air force F-15 SG fleet still get advantage against our small qty of Su-35. And without comprehensive maintenance technology transfer it would be more harder for us to keep those Super Flankers at the high level of readiness.

And currently based on some insight information only 2 out 5 of our Su-27 still airworthy, (we have 11 Su-30 and 5 Su-27).
Apart from all euphoria in getting Su-35 Super Flanker, we must bear in mind that Russian machines costly to maintain.

Me personally will be more happy of having two or three full squadron of used F-16 (ex USAF) capable of firing AMRAAM missile or F-16V rather than only 1 squadron of Su-35 Super flanker. Because our airspace is too huge to be protected by small number of fighters no matter how advance the tech.

Not to mention Su-35 itself is only an 'emergency' stop-gap by Russian air force since their PAKFA is still not ready yet and cannot enter mass production at least for the next 5 years from now.

Realistically speaking 32 will be a win win for us and Russia.
Since we need to increase the number of our fighter and on the other side Russia will ask larger amount of order in order to grant the TOT to us.
But unfortunately, DPR-ly speaking it has to be 12

I personally would be happy IF we get 32 of Super Flanker, but if its only 12, better those Desert Falcon in large numbers + AMRAAM