That's the thing. Airlines don't want the best, they want something that is cost effective. Habibie is a great engineer and made a good aircraft, however I don't think he understood the airline market that well back then. Had he attempted to market it as a tactical transporter. I would say it would have been more successful and the IMF would not have insisted on dropping the project.
No, instead we will get viper and F16's second hand altogetherSoo.. instead of new Vipers, these old tired Falcons are what we are getting now...?
F-16 fanboys are probably smiling ear to ear full of happiness now....
They can just scatter those in various empty military airfields and be used as decoys or something... I bet it will look real good in satellite recon pics..
the norway falcon is one of the consideration , we still have a possibility to get EDA from US with much more lower flight hours .
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When? MoD is the one who decides "when", weapon arms procurements is dynamic, you can't decide "when" it might actually happen except from the MoD itself
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I dont like another second hand F16, I dont think used F16 isnt worth upgrading to Viper if we looking at the perspective of LCC. But at least the sound of us getting new Viper is heard again for now. Buckle up, September is around the corner we might see more unconfirmed news that can be worth gossiping
Monch defense one of large defense news outlet in Europe cover Indonesia order of Astros
https://www.monch.com/mpg/news/land/7292-indonesia-receives-more-astros-systems.html#
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INDONESIA RECEIVES MORE ASTROS SYSTEMS
A further batch of ASTROS II Mk6 area saturation artillery rocket systems has been delivered to Indonesia: 27 launchers and a significant number of rockets.
Indonesia ordered two batteries (36 vehicles) of the Brazilian ASTROS II system in 2012. These vehicles already equip two rocket artillery battalions and MON understands that the new vehicles are destined for the mixed rocket/tube artillery battalion of the newly formed (2018) 3rd Army Division in Sulawesi and Papua. An alternative rationale, however, is that they may be replacement units for the 1st and 2nd Divisions, since 14 ASTROS systems are now on detached duty protecting Natuna Island.
Since the signature of the original 2012 purchase of 36 units was signed there has been no notification from the MoD for any further orders. However, in February 2019, Lt Gen Moch Fachrudin, the Army’s Deputy Director of Personnel, visited Avibras’ factory in São José dos Campos, São Paulo, supposedly to guarantee that a new Indonesian order, for 56 vehicles, would be delivered by the established deadline.
Santiago Rivas and Florencia Lucero Heguy in Buenos Aires for MON
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Avibras ASTROS II multiple launch rocket systems being delivered to Indonesia. (Photo: via authors)
DetailsPublished: 03 August 2020
Indonesia Receives More ASTROS Systems
A further batch of ASTROS II Mk6 area saturation artillery rocket systems has been delivered to Indonesia: 27 launchers and a significant number of rockets.Indonesia ordered two batteries (36 vehicles) of the Brazilian ASTROS II system in 2012. These vehicles already equip two rocket artillery b...
so the new batch of order is 56 instead what we guessed before of around 27 or the likes.
I assume the number might have something to do with them wanting to get into the Matador missile program.
