Indonesia Defence Forum

[pr1v4t33r]

maybe suddenly there civilian in target radius but who know?

Uh.....sudden blue-on-blue occurance/possibility?

I think it's pretty safe. This munition can loiter up to 30 minutes before striking any confirmed target. We can just redirect it to hit another targets within its striking radius, which is 60 km.

This mini cruise missile can even search and destroy enemies hiding in reverse slope area. So, it's quite precise and accurate.

 

[toke115]

Indonesian National Police

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I think recoilless rifle is expensive and have less penertration compared to lastest RPG munition
And RPG have different ammo like anti tank, anti personnel and thermobaric
And nlaw and javelin are guided
We have RPG 7 in marine, and army used c90 from spain

RR is heavy ... and not really mobile... even the Carl Gustav requires 2 soldiers.. 1 for the launcher another to carry and load it..

 

[rondo.royal2]

@striver44
Smart bom dan standoff misil punya error jangkauan walaupun sudah dibekali sistem seeker homing. karena tidak punya datalink langsung dari radar seperti medium air to air dan sam .cara kerjanya smart bom dan standoff misil ,dia menjatuhkan diri dg dibekali ins ,saat fase midcourse gps nya menghitung jarak antara peluncuran dan target , berhubung smart bom dan standoff misil tidak bisa berputar putar serta kecepatannya tidak bisa dikontrol saat landing seperti pesawat .. dia punya masalah ke error an jangkauan .

kalo ancamannya di laut lebih efektif pakai ashm.
Kalo didarat pakai loitering bom seperti ws 43 ,yg sudah dibekali ins,gps dan seeker homing lebih efektif karena lintasannya tidak balistik seperti roket dan turun tajam tanpa adanya kendali kecepatan seperti smart bom dan standoff misil.

Beli ratusan peswat tapi tidak efektif untuk ancaman di laut dan darat buat apa ? Perawatan pesawat mahal lho ntar kayak tetangga beli ratusan sering jatuh

Punya ratusan kilo yg dipersenjatai misil klub anti darat tanpa memiliki tactical datalink juga percuma, bakal error jangkauan.

 

[Nike]

why the army opting to have such delicate weapon system, because they know first hands if our Air Forces is pretty damn weak and cant guarantee much work to be done

 

[faries]

811th Battalion, Detachment-81, Kopassus
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https://www.facebook.com/7622574837...257483796698/1216587071697068/?type=3&theater

Coordinated Patrol and India-Indonesia Bilateral Maritime Exercise commence in Indonesia

In a demonstration of India's commitment to its ties with Indonesia and to the maritime security in the Indian Ocean Region, Indian Naval Ship Karmuk, an indigenously built missile corvette, based under the Andaman and Nicobar Command, alongwith a Dornier Maritime Patrol Aircraft, is participating in the 28th India-Indonesia Coordinated Patrol and Second Bilateral Maritime Exercise, scheduled from October 10-17 in the Andaman Sea.

Defence relations between India and Indonesia have been growing steadily with regular joint activities and interactions between the Armed Forces of the two countries.

The two navies have been carrying out Coordinated Patrols (CORPAT) on respective sides of the International Maritime Boundary Line (IMBL) twice a year since 2002, with the aim of keeping this vital part of the Indian Ocean Region safe and secure for commercial shipping, International trade and legitimate marine activities.

The CORPAT has strengthened understanding and interoperability between the two navies and promoted net maritime security in the region.

The bilateral cooperation has increased significantly with the scheduling of the Second Bilateral Maritime Exercise along with the 28th edition of the CORPAT.

The Opening Ceremony at Belawan, Indonesia from October 10-13 is being attended by Commodore Girish Kumar Garg, the Naval Component Commander of the Tri Service Andaman and Nicobar Command (ANC) based at Port Blair.

The Bilateral Maritime Exercise and the CORPAT would see participation by one warship and one Maritime Patrol Aircraft from each Navy.

These interactions would also provide opportunities for extensive operational and training engagements, and contribute substantively to the maintenance of good order at sea. The Exercise seeks to strengthen the existing bonds of friendship between India and Indonesia, and underscore India's partnership and solidarity with friendly countries of the region.

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...ise-commence-in-indonesia-116101000322_1.html

 

[Su-35SM3 Flanker-N]

The first priority should be air force, followed by navy and then army. An effective air force can eliminate air and naval threats, as well as rendering opposing ground forces ineffective through supply interdiction and constant bombing. Even a Hawk 209 with AGM-65 can be deadlier than the Yakhont-carrying KRI OWA. It can attack naval targets farther and faster, while TNI AL ships may need take days to intercept opposing naval ships. Submarines are even worse, they have mediocre sensors and have slow speed. Subs can't catch up with surface ships and there's no guarantee that they will be at perfect ambush position due to the volatile nature of battlefield. I get really tired of those "ghoib adherents" who constantly talk about overrated subs. It's much better to have an extra squadron of maritime-oriented Su-30MK2 with Kh-31A, than a couple of ghoib Kilo subs. Faster and deadlier, could unleash a salvo of 50 or more AShM within hours after naval threats are detected.

 

[Nike]

The first priority should be air force, followed by navy and then army. An effective air force can eliminate air and naval threats, as well as rendering opposing ground forces ineffective through supply interdiction and constant bombing. Even a Hawk 209 with AGM-65 can be deadlier than the Yakhont-carrying KRI OWA. It can attack naval targets farther and faster, while TNI AL ships may need take days to intercept opposing naval ships. Submarines are even worse, they have mediocre sensors and have slow speed. Subs can't catch up with surface ships and there's no guarantee that they will be at perfect ambush position due to the volatile nature of battlefield. I get really tired of those "ghoib adherents" who constantly talk about overrated subs. It's much better to have an extra squadron of maritime-oriented Su-30MK2 with Kh-31A, than a couple of ghoib Kilo subs. Faster and deadlier, could unleash a salvo of 50 or more AShM within hours after naval threats are detected.

i would agree, Air Superiority is a must and that's why Air Forces and Navy currently got the biggest shares of extra funds for modernization programme. The Army itself is quite content with what they had and embarking a modest modernization programme and even pursue second hand items like M109 Kawest and M113 for their upgrading efforts

 

[Su-35SM3 Flanker-N]

i would agree, Air Superiority is a must and that's why Air Forces and Navy currently got the biggest shares of extra funds for modernization programme. The Army itself is quite content with what they had and embarking a modest modernization programme and even pursue second hand items like M109 Kawest and M113 for their upgrading efforts

It's true what people say that even if we have a huge raise, it doesn't mean that we will have enough money.

The state budget and military budget have increased significantly in the past 10 years, but we still end up having deficits. We simply spend more, because we think we earn more. As an example, NTT province gets Rp 31 trillion DIPA last year and recently BPJS Kesehatan needs nearly Rp 7 trillion of fund injection. Really can't expect to get much higher defense budget in near future and tax amnesty will start to contribute starting in 2017. It may only be barely enough to cover the budget deficit.

 

[Zarvan]

why the army opting to have such delicate weapon system, because they know first hands if our Air Forces is pretty damn weak and cant guarantee much work to be done

The area Indonesia has and also the economy sorry but you are dam to week when it comes to Air Force. You people need much bigger Air Force and as for Navy you need to get Ships which are equipped with VLS system and can fire long range cruise missiles. With that kind of frigates and destroyers you can destroy the enemy from a safe distance.

 

[GraveDigger388]

Equip remote islands on the borders with stationed defense equipments. Be it guns, missiles, anything goes. Would be a simpler option (for now) than to acquire any mobile platform (ships, subs, fighters, you name it).

At least that's what I would do.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

The state budget and military budget have increased significantly in the past 10 years, but we still end up having deficits. We simply spend more, because we think we earn more.

The deficit is planned to support growth. As long as it stay below 3%, we are completely OK. Although we have to admit that Sri Mulyani have successfully knock some sense into the budgeting front.

Equip remote islands on the borders with stationed defense equipments. Be it guns, missiles, anything goes. Would be a simpler option (for now) than to acquire any mobile platform (ships, subs, fighters, you name it).

Natuna case would be a perfect example for the future plan on how to safeguard and strengthen our outermost region.

 

[MacanJawa]

we need dump bela negara program what a waste of money
investing weapon tech such as licensing RPG 29, kornet, Manpad maybe good idea

 

[Su-35SM3 Flanker-N]

The deficit is planned to support growth. As long as it stay below 3%, we are completely OK. Although we have to admit that Sri Mulyani have successfully knock some sense into the budgeting front.

Yes....there's still a huge room for future growth, unlike our neighbors Singapore and Brunei that consistently recorded budget surplus.

F-16 mock scramble exercise

 

[Kalazan]

I think indonesian goverment has on the right Track...
We already focused the defense budget to Air force and Navy, since RI has announce the country would be the world maritime axis and the need of strong protection from the air...thats all automatically.
Yes its look like slowly progress because the toys for the two forces are expensive and defense procurement law must consist of TOT.

For neutral country like Indonesia, that actually peace situation is the most expected...The dettering defense system that have high detterent should put in top list. The most advanced in its clasification. Long range detection radar, long range SAM, most air superiority aircraft, AAW figate/destroyer and land attack capability submarine and the last millitary satelite.

That all would be make our homeland safe and peace.

BPPT Modernisasi Kapal Selam Cakra Class
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Oct122016

Surabaya – Panglima Komando Armada RI Kawasan Timur (Pangarmatim) Laksamana Muda (Laksda) TNI Darwanto,menerima kunjungan Direktur staf Badan Pengkajian dan Penerapan Teknologi (BPPT) Bpk Dr.,Ir, Adhi Dharma Permana beserta Staf BPPT. di Rupat Pangarmatim Ujung, Surabaya (11/10/2016).

Letkol Laut (T) Andre HP menyampaikan paparannya tentang kemampuan Sionban, setelah Revitalisasi, yang dapat melakukan charging atau discharging untuk 2 Kapal Selam ( Cakra Klas) secara bersamaan.

Sedangkan sebelum dilakukan revitalisasi, proses charging atau discharging sepenuhnya masih tergantung aliran listrik dari PLN. Diesel Generator (DG) baru yang sudah terpasang belum dapat berfungsi sebagai back up tegangan.

Kini, tegangan back up Kemampuan Produksi Air Demineralisasi lebih baik. Kemampuan untuk mendukung UTT (Udara Tekanan Tinggi) untuk mendukung wetting up lebih baik.

Acara kunjungan ke Koarmatim dalam rangka paparan Evaluasi Revitalisasi dari Stasion Bantuan (Sionban) Fasharkan Surabaya yang dihadiri Pejabat Utama Koarmatim beserta 15 Staf dari Badan Pengkajian dan Penerapan Teknologi (BPPT).

koarmatim

Great achievement in submarine technology.