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Anonymous, over the last two days, has made some very interesting comments on these Indonesia-Russia negotiations:
"Indonesia's extravagant wish to buy 10 Russian Kilos was, as far as I can tell, driven by its Defence Minister [General (Ret.) Ryamizard Ryacudu] who seems to be a pretty hardcore Russophile. Cooler-headed Indonesian observers I talked with says that Indonesia may buy two Improved Kilo, but there is nothing concrete about that and it might be zero given the current Indonesian economic weakness.

ROFL russophile? it's like telling us to get a more expensive USA stuff only to be embargo-ed some times later. Russia is the best choice for any nation interested to develop their military, period.

The $3 billion in the RBTH article matches what Indonesian sources said, so that part seems correct.
Indonesian military officials and politicians, egged by Russia, have often stated that they are going to buy this or that from Russia without consideration on what they're going to use it for or how they are going to pay for it.

oblivious much of an easily escalated SCS conflict.

There is a small but vocal Russophile faction, but most of the time the sane majority prevails and those statements were quietly ignored. However, once in a while they do throw a bone at the Russophiles to placate and retain their political support.
I rate the Su-35 procurement as likely, and the 5 Amur submarine procurement as unlikely. A half-half compromise of 8 Su-35 and 2 Amur is also possible. Militarily that is nuts, but hey, thats politics. Getting both is financially impossible and irresponsible. Even Russian credit doesn't stretch that far.

nope it's not nuts. defense should be prioritized over anything else, period. by the time a war happened and we are too weak for ourselves, that's the end of it.

Russia also makes lots of noise about selling nuclear power plants to Indonesia. This is actually pretty plausible. Despite the Ring of Fire [earthquake-volcano zone] location, the physics of plate tectonics actually means that there are several geologically stable spots in Indonesia. Some of these spots are sufficiently inland or sheltered to be safe from tsunamis.

should've said that to Japan. they have earthquakes like, everyday? we are nothing when compared to Japan. just because there are volcanoes around does not mean that we will be on the same geographical level as Japan.

Whether Indonesia will build utility scale nuclear power plants and who gets the contract remains to be seen though. I am quite certain that Indonesia will build them eventually though. Indonesia will run out of natural gas within 20 years and of coal within 50 years and despite all the talk about renewables, the actual growth rate of renewable energy use in Indonesia is not enough. However, in the near term, the only confirmed plan to build a nuclear reactor in Indonesia is the 30 MW experimental reactor in Serpong to replace the 30 year old experimental reactor of similar rating (used to make medical isotopes and breeding new rice variants, among other things, but not actually connected to the power grid) that is reaching its end of service life. Russia is likely to get this project, but this is still far far away from an actual nuclear power plant.
Russian media has this habit of talking big, but the actual realization is often much smaller and more uncertain than they make it to be."
Pete

it's not just Russia that we are partnering with for the Nuclear deal. everyone will get their fair share. that's how serious we are regarding the nuclear proposal.

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Australian military cadets join Indonesian speech contest

thejakartapost.com, Jakarta | World | Fri, October 16 2015, 7:03 PM


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One of the cadets demonstrates her Indonesian skills at the Australian Defense Force Academy (ADFA) on Thursday. (ABC via kompas.com)


Australian military cadets joined an annual Indonesian speech contest held at the Australian Defense Force Academy (ADFA) in Canberra on Thursday as part of the academy's Indonesia Day event.

Despite having been only learning Indonesian for two to three years, the cadets revealed amazing abilities, including two participants who are from Cambodia and Vietnam.

The variety of topics chosen by the participants were also interesting: Pancasila, President Joko "Jokowi" Widodo, former president Soekarno, Megawati Soekarnoputri, bilateral relations, cuisine, tourism and soap operas.

On the panel of judges was Indonesian Ambassador to Australia Nadjib Riphat Kesoema, Amrih Widodo from the Australian National University and representatives from ADFA, Minako Sakai and Paul Tickell.

According to Nadjib, the ability to master Indonesian was needed to strengthen friendship between the two countries as well as increase understanding of Indonesia's politics, economy, development and culture.

Nadjib added that the contest was also effective to promote the language to the people of Australia.

According to a report by kompas.com on Friday, the cadets studied Indonesian for three hours per week from four lecturers available at the academy. In the six semester program, they also learned about Indonesian culture, including Islam and its social and political roles, development policies and their impact, and relations between class, gender, culture and history.

According to one of the lecturers, Nicolaas Warouw, around 120 cadets were involved in the language program.

"Australian cadets are required to master Indonesian, which will be very important in their careers. This is why ADFA gives attention to the development of the language," said Warouw.

The Indonesian language program available in ADFA is held in cooperation with the University of New South Wales.

Each year, around 10 cadets who participated in the program are sent to all over the archipelago to allow them to gain new experiences and practice their language skills.

Six participants in the contest have actually just came back from Yogyakarta in Central Java and later presented an overview about the country's tourism during the contest. (kes)(++++)


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tender had been open for further batch of OPV for KPLP (Indonesian Sea and Coast Guard), they had been admitted to bought at least 100 OPV
 
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tender had been open for further batch of OPV for KPLP (Indonesian Sea and Coast Guard), they had been admitted to bought at least 100 OPV

And to think that those 100 new vessels are being prepared only for KPLP. And Bakamla have also their separate procurement plan. If we combine these two, Our coast guard will become quite formidable in no time.
 
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Beautiful, Just like KCR 40 Without missiles and guns, so we have two coastguard for bad guys

Currently yes, though i hope we'll merge this two in the future. KPLP work under the Ministry of Transportation, while Bakamla work under direct control of the president.



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