Indonesia Defence Forum

[Nike]

Well, Australia must see Indonesia at different perspective, they can't dictate their own value anymore. The world is changing fast, Indonesia today is not the same with the Indonesia who just prevailed from their utmost crisis in 1999 to 2005 period. One decade is more than enough to change Indonesia. We stand at the same height with them today.

 

[Indos]

What ????? Aussie want to come and took that criminals by force ????


Well, The event maybe will be like this.........


Indonesia Police/Army vs Aussie Army at East Timor ( sorry repeating the post, but the context is so right )

 

[pr1v4t33r]

In 10 years, Yudhoyono built Indonesia foreign policy based on theme "thousand friends, zero enemy", now within mere 100 days of Joko Widodo presidency, we already shakes our diplomacy cloud up and down. ASEAN, Brazil, Netherland, Australia, and there will be few more lining up on the years to come.

No dull moment with Jokowi, yep, exciting and fresh development for Indonesia. Haha.
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[Nike]

Australian people doesn't share the same view with Abbot who just embarrassed the whole Australia into the new low

In 10 years, Yudhoyono built Indonesia foreign policy based on theme "thousand friends, zero enemy", now within mere 100 days of Joko Widodo presidency, we already shakes our diplomacy cloud up and down. ASEAN, Brazil, Netherland, Australia, and there will be few more lining up on the years to come.

No dull moment with Jokowi, yep, exciting and fresh development for Indonesia. Haha.
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Kita bikin Rame kan temanya

Asal gak ganggu China, Russia dan USA is fine to me, we can't afford diplomatic spat with those three

 

[Indos]

The tension will help Su 35 acquisition

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Australian people doesn't share the same view with Abbot who just embarrassed the whole Australia into the new low.

interesting, i found this discussion on facebook. Looks like most australian are supporting our policy on death row The NT News - Bali Nine duo 'love Indonesia' >> | Facebook

Right, we should build our strategic partnership with those three superpowers (past, current,and future) and avoid any serious tension with them. And also strengthening our partnership with all the regional powers based on mutual respect, understanding and no-interference policy on internal matter.

Su 35 would find its way wide opened now since our southern neighbor has showing an exaggerated reaction toward Indonesian internal policy. And looks like Muldoko playing his card by showing what Sukhoi fighter's jet can do in this situation. good move for our military procurement plan...

 

[baukiki88]

The tension will help Su 35 acquisition

Until now there isn't any info when they want to buy SU35. They said that they want to wait till Rp is stable. later, Rp is getting weaker and weaker, hence, lesser number of SU35 we can afford.

 

[Indos]

Until now there isn't any info when they want to buy SU35. They said that they want to wait till Rp is stable. later, Rp is getting weaker and weaker, hence, lesser number of SU35 we can afford.

I hope the fall of Rubel will smooth the deal

 

[Nike]

I hope the fall of Rubel will smooth the deal

, so far they keep insisted to be paid with US dollar as the Bank who will became the guarantee for the deal only accept the most common currency in used today

 

[Luftwaffe]

Would rather take the F-35 instead of F-16 block 60. Only $30m difference $150m vs $120m if im not wrong

Probably we are not permitted to buy.

Did you forget maintenance costs over the life times say 30 years that includes systems upgrades, post sales spares(the real money for LM), ram coating.. A single F-35 costs go beyond 200m.

 

[baukiki88]

I hope the fall of Rubel will smooth the deal

Russian are smart, most of their export are in US$.
The fall of Rubel did not drop the price of their export goods.

The Minister of defence must secure the deal fast with Russia if they want to buy the SU35, be200 and The Amur submarine.
I have spoken to many financial analyst, many of them said that the Dollar will strengthen against major currencies and predict that it will reach Rp15000 a dollar.

I still dont understand by their statement saying that they will wait Rp to get stable. Hoping the Rp to get stronger is a fatal move. The longer they wait the lesser equipments they will get. Looks like we wont be getting a full squadron.

They get 100T rp defence budget of which only 30% for military spending. which is equal to 2.5B dlr. and have to be divided into 3 forces ($850m each), which means they can only get 10 units at most.

 

[Indos]

Russian are smart, most of their export are in US$.
The fall of Rubel did not drop the price of their export goods.

The Minister of defence must secure the deal fast with Russia if they want to buy the SU35, be200 and The Amur submarine.
I have spoken to many financial analyst, many of them said that the Dollar will strengthen against major currencies and predict that it will reach Rp15000 a dollar.

I still dont understand by their statement saying that they will wait Rp to get stable. Hoping the Rp to get stronger is a fatal move. The longer they wait the lesser equipments they will get. Looks like we wont be getting a full squadron.

They get 100T rp defence budget of which only 30% for military spending. which is equal to 2.5B dlr. and have to be divided into 3 forces ($850m each), which means they can only get 10 units at most.

It will likely be taken first by using Russian's loan, and then the payment will be done gradually. So, it is not always in cash and completed in one year budget.

 

[Nike]

Did you forget maintenance costs over the life times say 30 years that includes systems upgrades, post sales spares(the real money for LM), ram coating.. A single F-35 costs go beyond 200m.

No lah, that's why i has said before it for near future project not current ones

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Indonesia might postpone plan to buy military weaponry from Brazil
Senin, 23 Februari 2015 17:33 WIB | 578 Views

Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Vice-President M Jusuf Kalla has said the government might postpone a plan to buy military weaponry from Brazil after it has postponed the presentation of credentials by Indonesias ambassador-designate to the country.

"We are reconsidering our plan to purchase weapons (from Brazil)," Kalla told the press here Monday.

The bilateral relations between Brazil and Indonesia have become tense following Brazilian President Dilma Rousseffs unwillingness to receive Indonesian Ambassador-designate to Brazil Toto Riyanto.

"On the same evening after the refusal, the President ordered the recall (of the ambassador-designate). I communicated with the Foreign Affairs Minister to recall (him) immediately," Kalla stated.

Indonesias Ministry of Foreign Affairs has strongly protested the decision of the Government of Brazil to abruptly postpone the presentation of credentials by its Ambassador-designate to Brazil, Toto Riyanto, after formally inviting him to present the credentials at a ceremony in the Presidential Palace of Brazil at 9.00 a.m. (Brazilian time) on February 20, 2015.

"The manner in which the foreign minister of Brazil suddenly decided to postpone the presentation of credentials by the Indonesian Ambassador-designate to Brazil, when the Ambassador-designate was already at the palace, is unacceptable to Indonesia," said a statement on the ministrys official website on Saturday.

The Brazilian government has postponed the credential letter presentation in protest against the recent execution of a Brazilian drug offender by the Indonesian government.

Indonesia will go ahead with the implementation of the death penalty on major drug offenders, despite protests from the governments of Australia and Brazil, Kalla stated.

"We have reiterated many times that we have the sovereignty and will carry out the executions. Remember that the death penalty is based on a court verdict and not a presidential instruction," Kalla noted here Monday.

He understands the right of a country to lodge its protest against the execution of its citizen. Indonesia has also protested whenever its citizens were about to be executed in other countries, he added.(*)

Indonesia might postpone plan to buy military weaponry from Brazil - ANTARA News

 

[Nike]

Armoured Vehicles Asia Conference 2015


28 April, 2015 - 29 April, 2015, Jakarta, Indonesia

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Taking place in Jakarta, Indonesia in partnership with PT Pindad, the Armoured Vehicles Asia conference invites you to join regional military officials and manufacturing partners at a series of lectures, round table discussions and working groups designed to strengthen existing and to create new international partnerships for armoured vehicle stakeholders.

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Why Indonesia?
Indonesia has increased its defense budget over the past 5 years from $3.2 billion in 2007 to $8.1 billion in 2013
Indonesia is in the throes of a rapid transformation, swept along by its position at the heart of the world’s most dynamic economic region
The country has recorded one of the most consistent growth rates among global economies during the past decade with nearly 6 percent annual GDP growth (McKinsey SEA Report)


Indonesia and Armoured Vehicles
Indonesia plans to buy 420 Terrex 8x8 AIFVs under license from Singapore’s ST Kinetics. In November it finalised a deal to procure 102 modernised Leopard 2 MBTs, 42 upgraded Marder 1A3 IFVs and 11 armoured recovery vehicles from Rheinmetall in a €216m ($290m) deal, which includes logistical support. The deal makes Indonesia the 18th nation operating the Leopard 2. Indonesia’s locally-built armoured personnel carrier, the 6x6 Anoa, has had a number of export enquiries since it was produced in 2009 from Malaysia, Iraq, Nepal, Oman and Bangladesh

About PT Pindad

PT Pindad's objective is to become the leading manufacturer of defence and security equipment in Asia, by 2023 by utilising product innovation and strategic partnerships and the implementation of an integrated effort. Their primary objective is to support national development and specifically to support national defence and security.

Starting with the Nation Car project in 1993, PT. Pindad began focusing on the development of motor vehicle technology. PT. Pindad (Persero) since 1993, has been working with the various parties both within and outside the country in it’s effort to develop a special function vehicle technology, including bullet-resistance vehicles to meet market demand.

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Asia Driving Global Armoured Vehicle Market Growth

There is an arms race taking place in Asia. China’s defence budget has increased eightfold in the last 20 years and now many other countries in the region are looking to catch up. Both Vietnam and Cambodia have more than doubled their military spend over the last decade and other regional powers, including Japan, Philippines and Malaysia are following suit.

According to SIPRI data, the top five arms importers in the world are all based in Asia – India, China, Pakistan, South Korea and Singapore. India recently overtook China as the top arms importer after Beijing invested in its indigenous defence industry to lessen reliance on foreign deals. India is hoping to mirror China’s success in this area as it seeks to bolster its defence infrastructure and award contracts to Indian firms.

Some analysts predict that the global armoured vehicle and counter IED market will decline over the next decade, with traditional markets in the West taking the brunt of the collateral. However, while the global market is set to wane, demand in Asia will actually increase during the period. ICD Research forecasts that the market in Asia will be worth $5.4bn in 2021, up from $4.4bn in 2011. The vast majority of this will likely be spent on tactical trucks, main battle tanks (MBTs) and armoured personnel carriers (APCs)
Countries in the region such as Thailand, Singapore, Pakistan, India and South Korea face threats from insurgent groups, further increasing the requirement for armoured vehicles and other military equipment.

The 8th annual Armoured Vehicles Asia conference will create a high-level platform to address these challenges, including:
Armour requirements and procurement processes
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Improving Vehicle Mobility and Firepower
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