What's new

Indonesia Defence Forum

1637226189056.png

1637226222246.png


Dubai, 18 November 2021 – The Indonesia Ministry of Defence has placed an order for two Airbus A400M aircraft in multirole tanker and transport configuration.

The contract, which will become effective in 2022, will bring the total number of A400M operators to ten nations. The agreement includes a complete maintenance and training support package. A Letter of Intent was also signed for the future acquisition of four additional A400M aircraft.

”This new order will further expand the A400M footprint in the Asia-Pacific region. The A400M offers outstanding capabilities to Indonesia, providing its air force with the perfect platform to deliver large and heavy loads into remote areas and multiplying its airpower projection thanks to reliable aerial refuelling capabilities,” said Michael Schoellhorn, CEO of Airbus Defence and Space.

Capable of operating from rough and short runways, the A400M will strengthen the Indonesian Air Force’s airlift capabilities to rapidly respond to any crisis, demonstrated in the aftermath of the earthquake and subsequent tsunami that struck the country in 2018. The A400M was the first large airlifter able to deliver heavy loads like fuel trucks and excavators as well as food, clothes and medical supplies using a damaged and short runway in Palu (Central Sulawesi, Indonesia).

“The A400M is a truly multi-role platform and will greatly enhance the Indonesian Air Force’s tactical air-to-air capabilities. This aircraft will play a key role in other key missions including paratrooping and heavy cargo transportation. We are also looking at additional A400M acquisition in the near term, with future A400M developments such as firefighting an important capability we are exploring jointly with Airbus. The A400M will become a national asset and the cornerstone for Human Assistance and Disaster Response missions, beyond its tactical and air-to-air capabilities,” said Prabowo Subianto, Minister of Defence of the Republic of Indonesia.

The A400M can carry heavy and outsize loads across strategic distances, deliver these into tactical locations, while offering the added aerial refuelling capability. An ideal solution to meet air forces’ multirole tanker and transport aircraft requirements.

With the ability to fly fast and at high and extremely low altitudes, the A400M is the ideal platform for refuelling fighter and other major aircraft by means of two underwing refuelling pods. Its built-in air-to-air refuelling capability allows rapid reconfiguration as a tanker, making it easily adaptable to changing operational scenarios and missions. This adaptability is unique to the A400M, which can itself also be refuelled in flight.

 
Cheap F 16 planes are being offered, pick 16 of them with lowest operating hours then we can ask USA to allow us refurbish and upgrade it inside the country with the help of Lockheed Martin. This will be more than enough to fill our former F 5 Squadron with 16 strong F 16 Block 52 or if possible into Block 70/72 like what Taiwan gets

 
Last edited:

Indonesia Ministry of Defence orders two Airbus A400Ms
 
1637468505584.png


Well after 5 C 130 Super-Hercules we just ordered, we buy this A 400 M for 2 planes and 4 planes are in pipeline, waiting the financing.

A330 MRTT would be for special mission, beside AWACS plane

This is total approve foreign loan (2020-2024) from Bappenas for Air Force, while we dont know how much Finance Minister will slash it further, as for MRCA program it is slashed from 1.6 billion USD into 1.1 billion USD

See transport ( 1.5 billion USD) and special mission plane ( 1.5 billion USD)

There will likely be AWACS and A330 MRTT order next year or in 2023 if Finance Minister agree to finance it. KF 21/IFX is now set to only use Boom air refueling system (contrary to previous plan)

 
To make non Indonesian members more understanding, we also have domestic loans to finance domestic defense industry equipment.

Break down for Air Force (domestic loan= local made defense equipment) 2020-2024

1637472332028.png
 
Finally, Indonesian journalist, which is now represented by Kompas, the most respected Indonesian print media beside Tempo, makes a long report about KF 21/IFX program by using our own source (Bappenas Head (Minister of Planning), Ministry of Defense spoke person, Finance Ministry spokesperson, Foreign Ministry high official and spokesperson ) instead of just translating Korean media like Yonhap. Although a bit confusing as in the end of the report, Kompas put Reuters/AFP as source.

I have urged Indonesian journalist to be more creative in making news about KF21/IFX, something that should be easily done since many good sources can be used to make the report from PTDI, Defense Ministery, Bappenas, Minister of Finance, ITB lectures and former Air Force generals/ pilots.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Coming from Google Translate and the photo comes from other source since I cannot copy paste all of their infographic and pictures posted in the report.

By B JOSIE SUSILO HARDIANTO
21 November 2021 07:51 WIB·

KF-21 “Game Changer” Project
South Korea together with Indonesia developed a fighter aircraft now named KF-21 Boramae. The move can be a milestone towards independence.


1637488674097.png


Proudly, South Korean President Moon Jae-in attended the Seoul International Aerospace & Defense Exhibition or ADEX sitting in the back seat of an FA-50 fighter jet. In front of hundreds of invited guests in attendance, Moon expressed his pride in the FA-50's performance. He praised his state -made fighter jets.

"I can feel the greatness of the FA-50 that we developed with our own technology," said Moon. He further stressed that it was time for the South Korean arms industry to become a global leader. He also expressed his support for the strengthening of the South Korean military which aims to build defense forces and cultivate peace.

The statement cannot be separated from the awareness of the situation and challenges in the region. For the record, before ADEX was held, in mid -October North Korea tested their ballistic missiles.

To support the strengthening of the domestic alutsista industry, South Korea has set aside at least 80 percent of its budget for the purchase of alutsista and its spare parts from domestic manufacturers. Its main focus is on a number of areas needed for future wars, such as artificial intelligence, drones, robots, and space.

"We envision a smart, but strong military based on advanced science and technology, and promote peace together with the international community," Moon added.

On the other hand, independence in the field of defense also boosted the South Korean foreign exchange. Based on data from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), the value of South Korean arms exports in the period 2016-2020 increased 210 percent higher than the export value of the period 2011-2015. Indonesia is one of the major users of South Korean products, including the KT-1 Woongbi, T-50i Golden Eagle, Changbogo submarine, and LPD.

Read also: RI-South Korea Continues Manufacture of KFX Fighter Aircraft

Related to defense cooperation, since 2014, Seoul and Jakarta have agreed to develop a 4.5-generation fighter aircraft, the KFX-IFX. Last April, at the headquarters of Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI), President Moon led the launch ceremony of the KFX prototype. In the ceremony attended by the Minister of Defense of the Republic of Indonesia Prabowo Subianto, KFX got a new name, KF-21 Boramae.

In the future, the Boramae developed to replace the US-made F-4 and F-5 will be the backbone of the South Korean Air Force. Despite the class difference and not as sophisticated as the US-made F-35, the technology embedded in the GE414-400K engine aircraft is quite qualified. In addition to the AESA radar developed by Hanwha Systems, Boramae is also projected to be capable of carrying a long -range missile, the Meteor.


Boramae, which is one of the milestones of South Korean military technology, marks what Moon calls a new era of South Korean national defense independence. "Whenever we need it, we can make it," Moon said.

That independence made South Korea not only profitable strategically, but also economically. In addition to increasing the capacity and capability of the domestic defense industry, exports of military products also spur economic growth. Dependence on the US as the main supplier of defense equipment to Seoul can also be gradually reduced.

Indonesia's involvement in the KF-21 project for a number of parties in the country is expected to trigger the same hope. Indonesia has become more independent in fulfilling defense equipment/weapons, including strategic defense equipment/ weapons.

Once covered in uncertainty since 2018 due to stagnation in funding, Indonesia at the beginning of this month finally agreed to continue to be involved in the development of the project. After a lengthy negotiation process, in addition to being exempted from the payment of value added tax on Boramae, which will become part of Indonesia, the payment by Jakarta for the project was also revised to 1.35 billion US dollars.

Independence

For some, the long -term sustainability of the project is a relief. The reason is, until now, for the fulfillment of fighter jets, Indonesia still depends on other countries. Indonesia is currently in the process of discussing the procurement of Rafale from France and F-15EX from the United States.


In a written reply sent to Kompas, the Public Relations Bureau of the Secretariat General of the Ministry of Defense (Ministry of Defense) mentioned that for the Rafale fighter aircraft procurement agreement, the Ministry is still waiting for the determination of the source of funding from the Ministry of Finance. For the procurement of F-15EX, the current position is still in the negotiation stage between the US and Indonesia.

Read also: RI-South Korea Continues Manufacture of KFX Fighter Aircraft

With the Rafale and F-15EX procurement plans, the F-16 Viper purchase plan will be diverted to the F-15EX procurement. Related to SU-35, as reported, although the purchase contract has been signed, so far it is still constrained by CAATSA and OFAC sanctions from the US.

No wonder if the continuity of the KF-21/IFX development process can open the door of hope. Moreover, as conveyed by the Public Relations Bureau of the Secretariat General of the Ministry of Finance, the continuation of cooperation refers to the decision of President Joko Widodo. The cooperation is expected to be implemented in real steps to increase Indonesia's ability to build its infrastructure independently.

In the KF-21/IFX project, the national defense industry involved is PT Dirgantara Indonesia. "As a result of initial discussions with South Korea, PT Dirgantara Indonesia (Persero) asked to be the sole supplier (50 percent) of wings, tails, and other parts or (pylons)," said the Public Relations Bureau of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

In a separate interview, Bappenas Chief Suharso Monoarfa assessed the importance of the national defense industry's involvement in defense equipment procurement. Indonesia, according to him, has experience in making airplanes.

In addition to being able to design aircraft platforms, including the CN235 and N250, Indonesia is currently in the global supply chain for Airbus, Boeing, and Embraer. Indonesia, according to Suharso, has a capacity that cannot be underestimated.

Referring to the development of the N250, Indonesia has mastered aircraft design since the 1990s. Indonesia was even able to fly the N250, which has the ability to fly by wire, in August 1995. The aircraft was 100 percent built by Indonesian experts.

Also read: F-16 Viper, F-15EX, Rafale, or SU-35

"Making the aircraft that is important is the design, avionics, radar, electricity, etc. will adapt to the design and construction of the aircraft," said Suharso.

Regarding KF-21/IFX, Suharso argued that Indonesia also wants to have the strength to build its defense industry. On the other hand, according to him, there is a need for appropriate and wide spatial support for Indonesian researchers and experts to develop themselves.

KOMPAS/ANGGER PUTRANTO
A number of F-16 aircraft maneuvered in the TNI Joint Exercise entitled Dharma Yudha 2019 in Situbondo, Wednesday (11/9/2019). As many as 12,000 soldiers from three levels of the TNI held a war simulation rehearsal based on the integration of communications via satellite or known as Network Centric Warfare.

Military technology engineering, according to him, such as passive radar, to design and build aircraft can be used for civilian interests, such as mitigation and disaster response. In addition, Indonesia also needs to maintain the sustainability of the technology it already has, including fighter aircraft technology obtained from the ownership of F-16s and T-50s.

Trust

In the perspective of international cooperation, sustainability is important to build mutual trust, both bilaterally and globally. Referring to the data of the Investment Coordinating Agency (BKPM), the realization of investment from South Korea is uphill.

In the first quarter of 2021, South Korean investment realization ranked third after Singapore and China. Its value reached 851.1 million US dollars, higher than the realization of US and Japanese investments, which were 447.1 million US dollars and 322.7 million US dollars, respectively. That achievement cannot be separated from the close Special Strategic Partnership between Indonesia and South Korea.

Contacted separately, the Director General of Asia Pacific and Africa of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Abdul Kadir Jailani, said that opportunities for cooperation with South Korea in the field of defense or alutsista remained wide open. "One of them can be seen from the continuation of the joint fighter aircraft project, which involves national strategic industries. In addition to the field of technology, cooperation is also open to increase human resources in the field, "said Kadir through a message sent through the WhatsApp service.

As BKPM's positive note, Kadir said, the strength of the cooperation was also seen in the realization of South Korean investment in Indonesia. Citing BKPM data, Kadir said that in the second quarter of this year, South Korea's direct investment rose again to 1.1 billion US dollars.

"The increase in South Korean investment in Indonesia is inseparable from the high priority of South Korea towards Indonesia, especially as a special strategic partner. South Korea's New Southern Policy is indeed aimed at increasing cooperation with ASEAN countries, "said Kadir added.

Not surprisingly, the development of KF-21/IFX is expected to be part of the concrete steps of the partnership. In addition, this project could also be an opportunity for Indonesia to go higher independently.

(AFP/Reuters)

 
Last edited:
I doubt Bappenas and Finance Ministry will allow Prabowo proposal to get through their offices. The proposal is to finance Rafale and F15 EX ( out side the already approved 1.1 billion USD total foreign loan for MRCA program (2020-2024) ) and I also believe it is also mean to finance FREEM acquisition. Even I still have doubt that total 20 billion USD defense acquisition program ( both finance from foreign loan for foreign made defense equipment and domestic loan for domestic defense equipment) for Jokowi second term (2020-2024) that have been approved by Minister of Planning will go just smoothly and not being slashed further by Minister of Finance. We have seen MRCA program total foreign loan has been slashed by Minister of Finance into 1.1 billion USD from 1.6 billion USD ( approved by Minister of Planning).

This is because based on the law Indonesia should bring backs its conservative and prudent economic policy in capping budget deficit into only 3 % of GDP at 2023. In 2021, the figure is still above 5 %. Next year FM has already target the figure into around 4 %. Not easy to bring down the level while the spending is targeted to be the same as in 2021, although tax collection do increase YoY at 18 % this year. Finance Ministry will likely be quite prudent to withstand debt to GDP ratio no more than 45 % until Jokowi second administration is ended in the end of 2024. For information, Indonesia starts raising its budget deficit in 2020 into around 6 % from its long conservative cap at 3 % due to Pandemic related economic situation, where stimulus is needed to cushion the economic negative impact.

Even next year defense spending has been revealed and only able to make RMP (Rupiah Murni Pendamping) that only able to absorb a fraction of total foreign loan for defense equipment that have been approved by Minister of Planning (Bappenas). Total for 2021-2022 will be only 5.8 billion USD foreign loan while for 2022 they only can try to absorb around 4.8 billion USD foreign loan for defense equipment acquisition.

As I said in my previous comment in KFX/IFX thread, total foreign loan that will be absorbed until the end of Jokowi administration will likely at 15 billion USD or smaller. This figure is only enough to finance the priority program needed for our Armed Force modernization program, including 1.1 billion USD to fill previous F 5 squadron where the planes have all been grounded years ago, to make the Squadron maintain their flying skills other squadron lends them 3 Su 30 planes.

Jane Defense has made a model and predict Indonesia defense budget will be decreasing in 2023-2024 compared to approved 2022 defense budget. Even if the defense budget can be maintained to have similar figure like in 2022 number, the figure of RMP will only allow them to get similar foreign loan as in 2022 which is 4.8 billion USD.

One of the reason is also due to Jokowi decision to have defense investment policy that will focus on developing our own local defense industry. This policy has been implemented since Jokowi first administration period (2014-2019), and in 2022 it is also very well implemented as defense acquisition budget is 50;50 % for foreign defense equipment and local defense equipment.

If I am not mistaken, President has also made President Regulation recently (Perpres) where defense acquisition budget should be spend annually at 50:50 balance between local defense equipment and foreign defense equipment. Personally I support Jokowi defense policy since it will bring our nation into more independency in term of acquiring defense equipment. It is a long term vision and need long term commitment as well.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

 
Last edited:
Prabowo Subianto speech in IISS conference

 
Suggestion of the TNI Commander to the Minister of Defense: Purchase of defense equipment must be realistic according to the budget


Widya Michella
Monday, 22 November 2021 - 16:13 WIB

1637652507486.png



JAKARTA - The TNI Commander General Andika Perkasa suggested to the Minister of Defense ( Menhan) Prabowo Subianto that the planned purchase of the Main Weapon System Equipment ( Alutsista ) adjusts the available budget. The government since 2000 has only budgeted for the purchase of defense equipment on average below 1% of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP).

"That's a realistic capability because the government also has responsibilities to other sectors, not only defense. For me as a user, we propose to the Minister of Defense the purchase of only realistic defense equipment, which is in accordance with the budget we have. But on the selection, the selection of defense equipment should be getting more and more efficient," Andika said during a visit to the Navy Headquarters on Jalan Cilangkap Raya, Monday (22/11/2021).

He advised the Minister of Defense to buy Alutsista that is in accordance with technological developments for all Matra (Military branches) . "So even though the defense equipment is the same, the ability is double, triple and maybe even able to handle several defense equipment," he said.

Read also: Candidate for TNI Commander General Andika Asked not to tamper with the Procurement of Alutsista

According to the TNI Commander, with a limited budget, Indonesia can maximize it more effectively. "That's the maximum we can get, and the strength of our national security defense is also not only determined by the main weapon system, but there are other variables that will help to strengthen national security and defense," he said.

Regarding the development of defense equipment, said Andika, that is the authority of the Minister of Defense. Especially for the 2020-2024 period, it has been completed since 2019. The proposals were submitted by each TNI Chief of Staff until it was finally decided by the Minister of Defense and the government.

"So we have to be realistic, while the budget for development in the next five years has been completed and is under the Ministry of Defense. So we follow all long-term planning, relatively there will be no very basic changes," he said.

 

Joint Press Statement Menlu RI-Menlu Prancis: Perdalam Kemitraan Strategis untuk 2022-2027 | ENG SUB
 
Location : East Jakarta-West Java - East Jakarta

Departure from Halim base, East Jakarta and then Drop in cargo in Kertajati Airport, West Java, and come back to home base in Halim again without refueling.

 
Last edited:

Latest posts

Back
Top Bottom