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[Chestnut]

Even our marines was considering their towed artillary plan transition into Dana SPG quite seriously .

They should really just buy the CEASAR. There's ZERO point getting something different when it comes to something like an SPG.

 

[umigami]

As of now ... 105 mm was kind of irrelevant . Truth to be told with the 155 mm was getting lighter 105 was redundant and money waste . Even our marines was considering their towed artillary plan transition into Dana SPG quite seriously .
Sorry , kind of forget about the drone there .. Drone was a basic neccesity but the longer loitering time one do 24 hours at minimum . You have to considering the height of operating ceiling in papua .

Dana SPG is pretty huge youknow (30 ton)
How did they embarked it from our current LPD or LST? Could their pts 10 even handle it?

 

[Ravager]

Dana SPG is pretty huge youknow (30 ton)
How did they embarked it from our current LPD or LST? Could their pts 10 even handle it?

Hey , don't shoot the messenger here ....

As i said ... Serious consideration yet it isn't final . Too much thing to consider . Believe it or not commonality themes ( yeah , i couldn't believed it either so take this with some spoonfull of salts ) was mentioned in the arguements . Let just hope the saner mind will prevaill .
Because i do hope they'll choose the CAESAR too

 

[umigami]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1311953546233880577

I don't get it, so we have to choose Russia or SK ?

Edit: I'm referring to that total of 1.09 billion dollars. It pretty much the same with Sukhoi contract.
If they happened simultaneously, it should be higher.

 

[trishna_amṛta]

Its downside is she's the biggest one among all contender. Is she really suitable for our shallow archipelagic sea?? (Not a problem while operate in SCS though)

What make you think the South China Sea isn't as shallow as Java Sea?! Both South China Sea and Java Sea, along with Malacca Strait are recent / new;y created (in geological sense) body of water. The jungle of Borneo is far older than those seas.

FYI both Java Sea & Natuna sea + Norh Natuna Sea are between 100' - 150' deep. In underwater warfare perspective you can forget about any presence thermocline let alone anything that require deeper depth such as SOFAR channel.

 

[umigami]

What make you think the South China Sea isn't as shallow as Java Sea?! Both South China Sea and Java Sea, along with Malacca Strait are recent / new;y created (in geological sense) body of water. The jungle of Borneo is far older than those seas.

FYI both Java Sea & Natuna sea + Norh Natuna Sea are between 100' - 150' deep. In underwater warfare perspective you can forget about any presence thermocline let alone anything that require deeper depth such as SOFAR channel.

Bold: meter??
So a big no no for Ocean going submarine?

 

[Raduga]

Elemental Industries S.A.M.A.R with background environment

https://www.facebook.com/elementaldefense/posts/739999419882071

 

[Raduga]

What make you think the South China Sea isn't as shallow as Java Sea?! Both South China Sea and Java Sea, along with Malacca Strait are recent / new;y created (in geological sense) body of water. The jungle of Borneo is far older than those seas.

FYI both Java Sea & Natuna sea + Norh Natuna Sea are between 100' - 150' deep. In underwater warfare perspective you can forget about any presence thermocline let alone anything that require deeper depth such as SOFAR channel.

We still have celebes sea , banda sea , flores sea , timor sea which is considered as deep water sea , and we also already had incident where the chinese fleet doing illegal pass in philippines island near celebes sea , in sibutu strait

 

[trishna_amṛta]

Bold: meter??
So a big no no for Ocean going submarine?

*sigh* its feet.
Why do we even need ocean going sub for? The only ocean access for Indonesia is the Indian Ocean & small part of West Pacific

 

[trishna_amṛta]

We still have celebes sea , banda sea , flores sea , arafura sea which is considered as deep water environment , and we already had incident where the chinese fleet doing illegal pass in philippines island near celebes sea , in sibutu strait

Those are indeed deep water, however an ocean going capable SSK is a different class entirely than anything we need. Unless we wan't to flex our maritime muscle northward beyond our 200nm EEZ, there isn't any need for ocean going SSK

 

[trishna_amṛta]

A26 came out in 3 version. Which one?

The cheapest one with additional "Karya Anak Bangsa" branding as a side bonus

 

[umigami]

*sigh* its feet.
Why do we even need ocean going sub for? The only ocean access for Indonesia is the Indian Ocean & small part of West Pacific

Lhoooo..... Berarti semua contender overspec dong
Let's go with type 212 Dolphin class or Scorpene 1000 then...

But why singkie go with ocean going type 218??

 

[Kansel]

Newest starstreak batch for Batalyon Arhanud 11

 

[Nike]

Artillery

 

[Ravager]

Artillery

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I wish we could somehow convert that " simbahs " into the kinzhal kind of turreted vehicles
Damn ,my eyes fooling me those are 105 not 57 mm