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the number of Brimob personnel is quite large (easily reach more than 150.000 to 200.000 personnel) and this years alone Police department want to raise their numbers again along with the number of regular police around 20.200 personnel for both of them, if i am not mistaken the exact number.

I find myself disagree to the plan to raise the number of Brimob. A very large number of paramilitary units indicates internal instability of a country because paramilitary force is mostly designed to deal with armed and rogue civilians-related problems like terrorism, separatism etc. unless they are reorganized under a new command structure or department like the homeland security or national guard. But then again, that would create a new "rivalry" between regular and irregular forces.
 
I find myself disagree to the plan to raise the number of Brimob. A very large number of paramilitary units indicates internal instability of a country because paramilitary force is mostly designed to deal with armed and rogue civilians-related problems like terrorism, separatism etc. unless they are reorganized under a new command structure or department like the homeland security or national guard. But then again, that would create a new "rivalry" between regular and irregular forces.

Its not like Indonesia was free from those problems right? we must admitted if Indonesia right now need some paramilitary forces, and heavily armed at best to cope with those looming threats around the corners of this archipelago. Even nowadays American states police department need more SWAT like units to cope with their regular problems. To send our already heavily armed armies to deal with Papuan rebels or Sulawesi cell terrorist just garner much unneeded attention in the times we need more support from the People to modernized our armed forces. Send the police (aka Brimob) instead and they will see it as a merely internal and usual civil problems.
 
Its not like Indonesia was free from those problems right? we must admitted if Indonesia right now need some paramilitary forces, and heavily armed at best to cope with those looming threats around the corners of this archipelago. Even nowadays American states police department need more SWAT like units to cope with their regular problems. To send our already heavily armed armies to deal with Papuan rebels or Sulawesi cell terrorist just garner much unneeded attention in the times we need more support from the People to modernized our armed forces. Send the police (aka Brimob) instead and they will see it as a merely internal and usual civil problems.

I think you misunderstood my points madam, I didn't say that we don't need Brimob, what I did say is that we don't need to increase their number. Brimob is militarized police, in short, they are special police, they are tasked with special missions that no ordinary police units nor military units would be suitable for them. A decade ago, Indonesia was on fire, there were rebellions in almost all major islands that need to be dealt by the Brimobs, but such missions (like separatism, secessionism) are now decreasing fast, the only hotspot in Indonesia is Papua. The civilian-related problems are shifting from separatism and secessionism into ideological and religious terrorism which should be approached by different methods and units. Therefore, the today's number of Brimob is enough to cope with our remaining internal problems. What I would like to see is an increase of regular police unit number and the number of anti-terror units like Densus 88.

Anyway SWAT is big on number but is still less than the Brimob, and the plan to increase the number of SWAT teams is based on a growing "usual" problems in the U.S. These so-called usual problems are different than the ones in Indonesia, SWAT teams have to deal with heavily armed robbers, tresspassers and gunmen because guns are easy to have in the U.S, meanwhile in Indonesia you don't see everyday's robbers carry guns, left alone automatic and large caliber guns. So regular police is enough to deal with our everyday's problem.
 
We have our first female minister of foreign affairs : Ms. Retno Marsudi,
Hope she can continue the good works of Mr. Marty
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We have our first female minister of foreign affairs : Ms. Retno Marsudi,
Hope she can continue the good works of Mr. Marty
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she is a hard worker for sure, and she was the best talented, proffesional, handy and proficient diplomat at our disposal right now
 
I think you misunderstood my points madam, I didn't say that we don't need Brimob, what I did say is that we don't need to increase their number. Brimob is militarized police, in short, they are special police, they are tasked with special missions that no ordinary police units nor military units would be suitable for them. A decade ago, Indonesia was on fire, there were rebellions in almost all major islands that need to be dealt by the Brimobs, but such missions (like separatism, secessionism) are now decreasing fast, the only hotspot in Indonesia is Papua. The civilian-related problems are shifting from separatism and secessionism into ideological and religious terrorism which should be approached by different methods and units. Therefore, the today's number of Brimob is enough to cope with our remaining internal problems. What I would like to see is an increase of regular police unit number and the number of anti-terror units like Densus 88.

Anyway SWAT is big on number but is still less than the Brimob, and the plan to increase the number of SWAT teams is based on a growing "usual" problems in the U.S. These so-called usual problems are different than the ones in Indonesia, SWAT teams have to deal with heavily armed robbers, tresspassers and gunmen because guns are easy to have in the U.S, meanwhile in Indonesia you don't see everyday's robbers carry guns, left alone automatic and large caliber guns. So regular police is enough to deal with our everyday's problem.
@nufix and @madokafc Times change really fast you should have both I mean SWAT and Para Military. SWAT should be trained heavily and heavily equipped with helicopters snipers machine guns best assault rifles Armored cars and best labs and other things
 
@nufix and @madokafc Times change really fast you should have both I mean SWAT and Para Military. SWAT should be trained heavily and heavily equipped with helicopters snipers machine guns best assault rifles Armored cars and best labs and other things
We had our gegana teams they are much very same in jobs with SWAT
 
Post there pictures please and details about there weapons and training
I am in my work right now, maybe this night i will trying to put more info about gegana teams

Post there pictures please and details about there weapons and training
I am in my work right now, maybe this night i will trying to put more info about gegana teams
 
Indonesia plans to purchase Russian submarines
Oct 23, 2014
Russia and Indonesia are discussing the possibility to provide Russian submarines for the Indonesian Navy, Russian Industry and Trade Minister Denis Manturov said last week

Russia and Indonesia are considering

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Varshavyanka is one of 17 Kilo class (Project 636) diesel-electric powered submarine operating with the Russian Navy, five more are on order. Over 30 submarines of this class are operating with several Asian navies including China, Iran, India and Vietnam. Photo: Novosti

Russia and Indonesia are discussing the possibility to provide Russian submarines for the Indonesian Navy, Russian Industry and Trade Minister Denis Manturov said last week, after his meeting with new Indonesian President Joko Widodo.

“Indonesia already has experience in purchasing our equipment — helicopters, planes, armored vehicles and other items,” he said. “We are considering the possibility of supplying the Project 636 diesel-electric submarines (to Indonesia),” he noted.

The two countries hope to boost inter-state trade from $3 billion to $5 billion in the next two years, Manturov said. There are plans for energy cooperation and for construction of Russian oil refineries in Indonesia. “Our Indonesian counterparts have raised this issue for the first time,” the minister said. “We are ready to discuss and develop this area.”

Indonesia plans to purchase Russian submarines | Defense Update:
 
Indonesia appoints new hardline defence minister
Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Industry
26 October 2014
General Ryamizard Ryacudu (retd), a former chief of staff of the Indonesian Army (Tentara Nasional Indonesia Angkatan Darat: TNI-AD) and a man with a hardline reputation, was named as Indonesia's new defence minister on 26 October. Ryacudu replaces Purnomo Yusgiantoro, who had held the post since October 2009.

Speaking to reporters following his appointment by President Joko Widodo, who was inaugurated on 20 October, Ryacudu pledged to continue the country's two-pronged commitment to develop both military and defence industrial capabilities.

Despite his close ties to the TNI-AD, Ryacudu has also vowed to invest in developing capabilities across the three armed forces.
 
Indonesian Air Forces Special Forces in China, they will conduct joint training with PLA special operation forces

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Indonesia appoints new hardline defence minister
Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Industry
26 October 2014
General Ryamizard Ryacudu (retd), a former chief of staff of the Indonesian Army (Tentara Nasional Indonesia Angkatan Darat: TNI-AD) and a man with a hardline reputation, was named as Indonesia's new defence minister on 26 October. Ryacudu replaces Purnomo Yusgiantoro, who had held the post since October 2009.

Speaking to reporters following his appointment by President Joko Widodo, who was inaugurated on 20 October, Ryacudu pledged to continue the country's two-pronged commitment to develop both military and defence industrial capabilities.

Despite his close ties to the TNI-AD, Ryacudu has also vowed to invest in developing capabilities across the three armed forces.
Gen. Ryamizard Ryacudu the father of Indonesian Raiders unit
 
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Roy Mabus, US Naval Secretrary came and visiting Medan North Sumatra. And at the same times, one of USS Hazard Perry class visiting Belawan Medan i am smelling something fishy there :P
 
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