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[NEKONEKO]

KAI plans to roll out first KF-X prototype in April 2021

South Korean aerospace and defence company Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) has revealed that it plans to roll out the first prototype of its Korean Fighter eXperimental (KF-X) multirole fighter aircraft in April 2021.

In the latest edition of its monthly Fly Together magazine the company released an image showing the prototype’s fuselage, which was assembled at KAI’s facilities in Sacheon. No further details were provided about the programme but Janes understands that the prototype is expected to conduct its first flight in 2022.

An image showing the fuselage of the first KF-X prototype at KAI’s assembly facility in Sacheon. The company has revealed that it plans to roll out the first protype aircraft in April 2021. (KAI)

The performance of the KF-X, which is on order for the Republic of Korea Air Force (RoKAF), is expected to improve with each ‘Block’, with the development programme envisaging the production of six Block 0 prototypes, followed by four years of trials and the completion of development by mid-2026.

The first mass-produced KF-X aircraft, which will be part of Block 1, are expected between 2026 and 2028. They will be equipped with limited air-to-ground weapons in addition to air-to-air weapons.

On the other hand the Block 2 KF-Xs, which will be series-produced from 2029, will be capable of performing full air-to-air and air-to-ground combat missions.

Meanwhile, officials from South Korea’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) told Janes on 6 July that the country’s Agency for Defense Development (ADD), in co-operation with Hanwha Systems, is expecting to complete development of an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar for the KF-X by mid-August.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/...o-roll-out-first-kf-x-prototype-in-april-2021

 

[Nike]

KAI plans to roll out first KF-X prototype in April 2021

South Korean aerospace and defence company Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) has revealed that it plans to roll out the first prototype of its Korean Fighter eXperimental (KF-X) multirole fighter aircraft in April 2021.

In the latest edition of its monthly Fly Together magazine the company released an image showing the prototype’s fuselage, which was assembled at KAI’s facilities in Sacheon. No further details were provided about the programme but Janes understands that the prototype is expected to conduct its first flight in 2022.

An image showing the fuselage of the first KF-X prototype at KAI’s assembly facility in Sacheon. The company has revealed that it plans to roll out the first protype aircraft in April 2021. (KAI)

The performance of the KF-X, which is on order for the Republic of Korea Air Force (RoKAF), is expected to improve with each ‘Block’, with the development programme envisaging the production of six Block 0 prototypes, followed by four years of trials and the completion of development by mid-2026.

The first mass-produced KF-X aircraft, which will be part of Block 1, are expected between 2026 and 2028. They will be equipped with limited air-to-ground weapons in addition to air-to-air weapons.

On the other hand the Block 2 KF-Xs, which will be series-produced from 2029, will be capable of performing full air-to-air and air-to-ground combat missions.

Meanwhile, officials from South Korea’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) told Janes on 6 July that the country’s Agency for Defense Development (ADD), in co-operation with Hanwha Systems, is expecting to complete development of an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar for the KF-X by mid-August.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/...o-roll-out-first-kf-x-prototype-in-april-2021

We can buy osprey but keep delaying the payment of KFX IFX program, quite a douchebag

US Government Approved Sale for Eight MV-22 Block C Osprey to Indonesia

07 Juli 2020


MV-22 Block C Osprey aircraft (images : Bellflight)

WASHINGTON - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Indonesia of eight (8) MV-22 Block C Osprey aircraft and related equipment for an estimated cost of $2 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

The Government of Indonesia has requested to buy eight (8) MV-22 Block C Osprey aircraft. Also included are twenty-four (24) AE 1107C Rolls Royce Engines; twenty (20) AN/AAQ-27 Forward Looking InfraRed Radars; twenty (20) AN/AAR-47 Missile Warning Systems; twenty (20) AN/APR-39 Radar Warning Receivers; twenty (20) AN/ALE-47 Countermeasure Dispenser Systems; twenty (20) AN/APX-117 Identification Friend or Foe Systems (IFF); twenty (20) AN/APN-194 Radar Altimeters; twenty (20) AN/ARN-147 VHF OmniDirectional Range (VOR) Instrument Landing System (ILS) Beacon Navigation Systems; forty (40) ARC-210 629F-23 Multi-Band Radios (Non-COMSEC); twenty (20) AN/ASN-163 Miniature Airborne Global Positioning System (GPS) Receivers (MAGR); twenty (20) AN/ARN-153 Tactical Airborne Navigation Systems; twenty (20) Traffic Collision Avoidance Systems (TCAS II); twenty (20) M-240-D 7.64mm Machine Guns; twenty (20) GAU-21 Machine Guns; Joint Mission Planning Systems (JMPS) with unique planning components; publications and technical documentation; aircraft spares and repair parts; repair and return; aircraft ferry services; tanker support; support and test equipment; personnel training and training equipment; software; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, logistics, and technical support services; and other elements of technical and program support. The estimated total cost is $2.0 billion.



This proposed sale will support the foreign policy goals and national security objectives of the United States by improving the security of an important regional partner that is a force for political stability, and economic progress in the Asia-Pacific region. It is vital to U.S. national interest to assist Indonesia in developing and maintaining a strong and effective self-defense capability.

The proposed sale of aircraft and support will enhance Indonesia’s humanitarian and disaster relief capabilities and support amphibious operations. This sale will promote burden sharing and interoperability with U.S. Forces. Indonesia is not expected to have any difficulties absorbing these aircraft into its armed forces.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The prime contractors will be Bell Textron Inc., Amarillo, Texas and The Boeing Company, Ridley Park, Pennsylvania. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.

Implementation of this proposed sale will require travel by the U.S. Government personnel and contractor representatives to Indonesia on a temporary basis to provide program technical support and program management oversight.

(DSCA)

@Nilgiri we Will be the third user after US marine corps and Japan

 

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri we Will be the third user after US marine corps and Japan

Excellent, all that's left is I suppose Indonesia to commit to the acquisition.

It will be interesting to see them operate in Indonesia.

 

[Nike]

So next in the list is P8Ina version , F16V and F35B (hopefully 4 unit can be signed soon)

Excellent, all that's left is I suppose Indonesia to commit to the acquisition.

It will be interesting to see them operate in Indonesia.

I think Indonesia Will be follow through the acquisition as the key word is for disaster relief

 

[Chestnut]

Hell yeah, I called it! Classic American diplomacy at its finest. Literally any Indonesian Slavaboo that says that "aMeRiCA iS OuR eNeMY aND rUSsiA iS oUr FRiEnD!!1!!" can pound sand. Also, all the people who used to make fun of me saying I was bullshitting when it came to Bell talking to PTDI and MinDef about the Osprey can also pound the proverbial sand.

Jokes aside, makes a lot of sense procuring them from a tactical standpoint. They fly faster and farther than the Chinooks. Although I am quite worried about the operational costs, I guess we'll have to see how they're going to get around that.

 

[mandala]

FMS for 8 MV-22 Block C Osprey for Indonesia. Wow.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280219483123187717

 

[NEKONEKO]

We can buy osprey but keep delaying the payment of KFX IFX program, quite a douchebag

Emang gaje, trus covid19 dipake buat ngeles narik karyawan DI balik ke Indonesia.

May I know which branch will get this osprey? Or it will be used for all branch?
Ngarep buat pasmar.

Are we also planning to have chinook?

 

[Cromwell]

Hell yeah, I called it! Classic American diplomacy at its finest. Literally any Indonesian Slavaboo that says that "aMeRiCA iS OuR eNeMY aND rUSsiA iS oUr FRiEnD!!1!!" can pound sand. Also, all the people who used to make fun of me saying I was bullshitting when it came to Bell talking to PTDI and MinDef about the Osprey can also pound the proverbial sand.

Jokes aside, makes a lot of sense procuring them from a tactical standpoint. They fly faster and farther than the Chinooks. Although I am quite worried about the operational costs, I guess we'll have to see how they're going to get around that.

You know i thought it wasn't serious and calculating the operational cost i thought we were getting CH-47F instead especially with that nice Boeing offsets offer to PT.DI, now we're getting FMS for 8 MV-22 instead

 

[kooppyyy]

You know i thought it wasn't serious and calculating the operational cost i thought we were getting CH-47F instead especially with that nice Boeing offsets offer to PT.DI, now we're getting FMS for 8 MV-22 instead

Yeah Boeing offers seems the more sensible ones. I don't understand the thought process behind this decision

 

[NEKONEKO]

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

Eniwei F35 will definitely alter the military balance in the region, don't hope too much guys for F35.

Yeah Boeing offers seems the more sensible ones. I don't understand the thought process behind this decision

Mungkin mikirnya sekalian nanti dipakai buat LHD dimasa depan, dari pada pake chinook di LHD ato malah dari pada TNI mengoperasikan chinook dan osprey.

 

[umigami]

So next in the list is P8Ina version , F16V and F35B (hopefully 4 unit can be signed soon)

I think Indonesia Will be follow through the acquisition as the key word is for disaster relief

Wait? F35B?
Why not A, the air force model?
Better range, peformance, more AAM inside weapon bay (sidekick rack).

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Wait? F35B?
Why not A, the air force model?
Better range, peformance, more AAM inside weapon bay (sidekick rack).

For future CV perhaps?....

God I would kill to see that.

 

[Ruhnama]

Wait? F35B?
Why not A, the air force model?
Better range, peformance, more AAM inside weapon bay (sidekick rack).

Penerbal need nice toy .......

(Moga pembelin osprey gada polemik kyk heli inggris dan lancar jaya)

 

[NEKONEKO]

For future CV perhaps?....

The navy should prioritize on getting more modern combat vessels first IMO from big to small size, even we still need a few more new subs.

 

[Nilgiri]

Wait? F35B?
Why not A, the air force model?
Better range, peformance, more AAM inside weapon bay (sidekick rack).

Maybe the tactical (basing) advantage of B model STOVL can be considered worth the trade-off?

Indonesia can operate B model from far far more places dotted all around its geography...and make and test out lot of interesting optimised doctrines regarding that (compared to being stuck only in prepared runway bases).

Ofc future flexibility with CV if it happens as well...it cant hurt.

@Nike BTW, what is the projected number requirement for this class of a/c for TNI-AF? I guess you have to soon make decision with sticking with KFX or go with F-35 right?