Not possible, it's T&C from the SK itself, even at first Turks want to contribute 50% on KFX project but got rejected by SK itself. In the end they decided to leave the program.
How about increase our shares in KFX project and get more concession, local build and export rights, etc.
We are participating in development for block-1, maybe permission to develop it further on our own.
It's because the rumored sam is between these two. I ask the same question with you why do even bother using 2 different VLS in one ship?
Wow interesting reading, specially between chestnut and others about the US vs Rusia fighters. It never gets old isnt it? That talks remind me of something I promise @Cromwell couple of months ago about our Sukhoi as a obrolan di warung kopi dengan seorang teman. Keep in mind that this is just obrolan warung kopi with no facts nor data submitted, its just simply nongkrong, nge-gosip sambil ngupi. I think he somehow involved in our latest sukro deal (not the 35 one). Pls keep in mind that during those time Rusia prolly in a different state of economic as the seperation of those states really hit their fighter supply chain, naval engine and what not. They werent in good condition economically and prolly acting like kejar setoran kinda move. I only share some conversations.
Gw: "Itu beli pesawat ga pake senjata?"
Temen: "Budget kurang boss"
Gw: "Life cycle/service interval mesinnya pendek amat sih? Ga lu omelin tuh org rusky?"
Temen: "Yah kan lumayan jadi beli parts terus katanya"
Gw: "wasemm"
Temen: "hahahaha"
Gw: "Kalo umur mesinnya pendek kenapa ga beli simulatornya? biar hemat dikitlah"
Temen: "Rusky ga mau ngasih (ga mau jual), kata mereka kita harus punya/beli dalam jumlah tertentu dulu baru dikasih (boleh dibeli) simulatornya
Gw: "buset deh segitunya kan kita dah punya lumayan banyak?"
Temen: (ngangkat bahu sambil nyengir doang)
What I can learned from the obrolan warung kopi was dealing with them is never been easy and have the tendency to be corrupted as the deal wasnt done like a direct G to G should be.
On the other note it might not represent what sukhoi company culture and value, as all the deal must be done via Rosoboron. They prolly isnt much Sukhoi as company can do in certain area; for example if say they have new and advanced jet components that can benefit the sukhoi user to pro-long their service interval. Rosoboron might reject the idea to sell for some reasons.
So @Cromwell I consider my promised is done
pak edie adalah sosok teladan dan salah satu sosok yang paling tidak di sukai oleh broker karena membeli leo lgs ke pabrik tanpa melalui broker...REST IN PEACE Bapak..
Gw: "Life cycle/service interval mesinnya pendek amat sih? Ga lu omelin tuh org rusky?"
Temen: "Yah kan lumayan jadi beli parts terus katanya"
Gw: "wasemm"
Temen: "hahahaha"
Gw: "Kalo umur mesinnya pendek kenapa ga beli simulatornya? biar hemat dikitlah"
Temen: "Rusky ga mau ngasih (ga mau jual), kata mereka kita harus punya/beli dalam jumlah tertentu dulu baru dikasih (boleh dibeli) simulatornya
Gw: "buset deh segitunya kan kita dah punya lumayan banyak?"
Temen: (ngangkat bahu sambil nyengir doang)
What I can learned from the obrolan warung kopi was dealing with them is never been easy and have the tendency to be corrupted as the deal wasnt done like a direct G to G should be.
On the other note it might not represent what sukhoi company culture and value, as all the deal must be done via Rosoboron. They prolly isnt much Sukhoi as company can do in certain area; for example if say they have new and advanced jet components that can benefit the sukhoi user to pro-long their service interval. Rosoboron might reject the idea to sell for some reasons.
So @Cromwell I consider my promised is done
How about increasing our shares in KFX project and get more concession, local build and export rights, etc.
We are participating in development for block-1, maybe permission to develop it further on our own.
We live in vicious cycle of life and yet some people with their overly dramatic & over optimistic people still running around. Their days of daydreaming & overly yet unrealistic idealism are dead long ago, in this field only realists can make it works. We don't live by hope and theories, this field ( defence section ) requires decision made by logic & interests regardless principlesWow interesting reading, specially between chestnut and others about the US vs Rusia fighters. It never gets old isnt it? That talks remind me of something I promise @Cromwell couple of months ago about our Sukhoi as a obrolan di warung kopi dengan seorang teman. Keep in mind that this is just obrolan warung kopi with no facts nor data submitted, its just simply nongkrong, nge-gosip sambil ngupi. I think he somehow involved in our latest sukro deal (not the 35 one). Pls keep in mind that during those time Rusia prolly in a different state of economic as the seperation of those states really hit their fighter supply chain, naval engine and what not. They werent in good condition economically and prolly acting like kejar setoran kinda move. I only share some conversations.
Gw: "Itu beli pesawat ga pake senjata?"
Temen: "Budget kurang boss"
Gw: "Life cycle/service interval mesinnya pendek amat sih? Ga lu omelin tuh org rusky?"
Temen: "Yah kan lumayan jadi beli parts terus katanya"
Gw: "wasemm"
Temen: "hahahaha"
Gw: "Kalo umur mesinnya pendek kenapa ga beli simulatornya? biar hemat dikitlah"
Temen: "Rusky ga mau ngasih (ga mau jual), kata mereka kita harus punya/beli dalam jumlah tertentu dulu baru dikasih (boleh dibeli) simulatornya
Gw: "buset deh segitunya kan kita dah punya lumayan banyak?"
Temen: (ngangkat bahu sambil nyengir doang)
What I can learned from the obrolan warung kopi was dealing with them is never been easy and have the tendency to be corrupted as the deal wasnt done like a direct G to G should be.
On the other note it might not represent what sukhoi company culture and value, as all the deal must be done via Rosoboron. They prolly isnt much Sukhoi as company can do in certain area; for example if say they have new and advanced jet components that can benefit the sukhoi user to pro-long their service interval. Rosoboron might reject the idea to sell for some reasons.
So @Cromwell I consider my promised is done
How many legs does the cat have ?
How about increasing our shares in KFX project and get more concession, local build and export rights, etc.
We are participating in development for block-1, maybe permission to develop it further on our own.
This is a obrolan warung kopi jg.. ga bisa dibuktiin..Wow interesting reading, specially between chestnut and others about the US vs Rusia fighters. It never gets old isnt it? That talks remind me of something I promise @Cromwell couple of months ago about our Sukhoi as a obrolan di warung kopi dengan seorang teman. Keep in mind that this is just obrolan warung kopi with no facts nor data submitted, its just simply nongkrong, nge-gosip sambil ngupi. I think he somehow involved in our latest sukro deal (not the 35 one). Pls keep in mind that during those time Rusia prolly in a different state of economic as the seperation of those states really hit their fighter supply chain, naval engine and what not. They werent in good condition economically and prolly acting like kejar setoran kinda move. I only share some conversations.
Gw: "Itu beli pesawat ga pake senjata?"
Temen: "Budget kurang boss"
Gw: "Life cycle/service interval mesinnya pendek amat sih? Ga lu omelin tuh org rusky?"
Temen: "Yah kan lumayan jadi beli parts terus katanya"
Gw: "wasemm"
Temen: "hahahaha"
Gw: "Kalo umur mesinnya pendek kenapa ga beli simulatornya? biar hemat dikitlah"
Temen: "Rusky ga mau ngasih (ga mau jual), kata mereka kita harus punya/beli dalam jumlah tertentu dulu baru dikasih (boleh dibeli) simulatornya
Gw: "buset deh segitunya kan kita dah punya lumayan banyak?"
Temen: (ngangkat bahu sambil nyengir doang)
What I can learned from the obrolan warung kopi was dealing with them is never been easy and have the tendency to be corrupted as the deal wasnt done like a direct G to G should be.
On the other note it might not represent what sukhoi company culture and value, as all the deal must be done via Rosoboron. They prolly isnt much Sukhoi as company can do in certain area; for example if say they have new and advanced jet components that can benefit the sukhoi user to pro-long their service interval. Rosoboron might reject the idea to sell for some reasons.
So @Cromwell I consider my promised is done
If we want essm just use mk41. Ig we want mica/camm use sylver. But in some LM brochure (likely i have share the link) there are some plan to use MK41 can launch the mbda missile.
Four leg. What leg next?
