Indonesia Defence Forum

[Nike]

Because in POLITIC you need something for the public something good to look at. Nobody will be able to see spare parts. And the majority of public will have extremely hard time understanding the need for spare parts (logistic) anyway.

Look at part and Whitney PT 6 engine family, they are widely used for many application, if Indonesia can secure major engine overhaul certification, parts production and license production agreement for the use in Asia region it Will generate more wealth for Indonesia industry in long term. There is need to produce tyre, avionic standard glass for aircraft use and so on, currently with Corona pandemic there is chance for Indonesia to Pursue such technology for cheaper and less restriction compared before.

 

[sahureka2]

 

[Nike]

Thats become so old by passing years, need to be replace already

 

[striver44]

Indonesia Signs Preamble Contract for First Iver Huitfeldt-Variant Frigate

12 Juni 2020



Iver class frigate (photo : Knud Olsen)

The Indonesian Ministry of Defence (MOD) has signed a preamble contract that paves the way for the country to procure its first-ever frigate from Denmark.

The contract was signed on 30 April in the presence of representatives from the MOD, state-owned shipbuilder PT PAL, and PT Sinar Kokoh Persada, the Indonesian agent for Danish company Odense Maritime Technology (OMT).

Among articles covered in the preamble contract include workshare arrangements that will be taken once an actual contract for the first vessel materialises, a defence industry source close to the matter has confirmed with Janes while providing documentary evidence of the occasion.

As first reported by Janes in March 2019, Indonesia has grown increasingly keen on a variant of the Iver Huitfeldt -class frigate, three of which are in service with the Royal Danish Navy, for the country’s own two-ship surface combatant requirement.

A piece of unclassified correspondence between the country’s then-defence minister, Ryamizard Ryacudu, and the cabinet secretary of President Joko Widodo provided to Janes that month made the case for the Iver Huitfeldt class as one that features “reliable combat capabilities, and can operate in the extremities of Indonesia’s exclusive economic zone”.

The Iver Huitfeldt class displaces 6,600 tonnes at full load, and is powered by four MTU 20V 8000 M70 diesel engines in a combined diesel and diesel (CODAD) configuration, giving it a top speed of about 28 kt.

(Jane's)
@Chestnut @Viet @Nilgiri

So it's official

 

[JCMan]

It's more on the fact that the F-16 is limited by it's combat load. That and with a country this big, you're still going to need double engine fighters to cover large distances.

It's settled then, Su-35 with western avionics that the Russians is currently offering will do the job just fine. No more integration and network centric difficulties excuses.

 

[NEKONEKO]

Its already April btw, lets see if there will be any press conference from MoD or it will be postponed because of the pandemic.

April almost ends btw.

30 April

Finally.

 

[Chestnut]

It's settled then, Su-35 with western avionics that the Russians is currently offering will do the job just fine. No more integration and network centric difficulties excuses.

Even the RMAF Su-30MKM doesn't even integrate and network well with their F-18D's. Why do you think the Hornets did the job in the 2013 standoff? Add to the fact the most numerous weapons we have in our inventory are US made and the fact that our Flankers are literal money pits because of maintenance costs means that the government is correct when it comes to backing out of the Flanker deal.

Russophiles in Indonesia needs to realize we aren't Vietnam. Our entire defense infrastructure is geared towards US and EU equipment with an obvious US technological slant. There are more cons for us with operating Russian equipment than there are benefits. Not only are they more expensive to maintain, they aren't nearly as capable as their US/EU counterparts.

 

[kooppyyy]

Yes in that sense of government spending it would be more interesting and reasonable that we're being part of F-16 & hopefully F-35 chain of supplies

Agrees, being apart of F-35 supply-chain is much more practical for our aero industries right now, but like what it said above, it's not "chest-thumping" enough to matter, unfortunately.

TNI AD Menata Kembali Satuan Kavaleri





Kita harapkan bahwa modernisasi Satuan Kavaleri sesuai MEF dapat selesai sesuai target pada tahun 2024.

http://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2020/06/tni-ad-menata-kembali-satuan-kavaleri.html?m=1

Interesting to see from the table above, the requirement (if that is what it is) for MBT is 123 unit, so we still need another 20+ MBT for Kostrad, am I reading this right?

 

[NEKONEKO]

It's settled then, Su-35 with western avionics that the Russians is currently offering will do the job just fine. No more integration and network centric difficulties excuses.

I don't think there will be SU35 with Link 16.

 

[Chestnut]

Indonesia Signs Preamble Contract for First Iver Huitfeldt-Variant Frigate

12 Juni 2020



Iver class frigate (photo : Knud Olsen)

The Indonesian Ministry of Defence (MOD) has signed a preamble contract that paves the way for the country to procure its first-ever frigate from Denmark.

The contract was signed on 30 April in the presence of representatives from the MOD, state-owned shipbuilder PT PAL, and PT Sinar Kokoh Persada, the Indonesian agent for Danish company Odense Maritime Technology (OMT).

Among articles covered in the preamble contract include workshare arrangements that will be taken once an actual contract for the first vessel materialises, a defence industry source close to the matter has confirmed with Janes while providing documentary evidence of the occasion.

As first reported by Janes in March 2019, Indonesia has grown increasingly keen on a variant of the Iver Huitfeldt -class frigate, three of which are in service with the Royal Danish Navy, for the country’s own two-ship surface combatant requirement.

A piece of unclassified correspondence between the country’s then-defence minister, Ryamizard Ryacudu, and the cabinet secretary of President Joko Widodo provided to Janes that month made the case for the Iver Huitfeldt class as one that features “reliable combat capabilities, and can operate in the extremities of Indonesia’s exclusive economic zone”.

The Iver Huitfeldt class displaces 6,600 tonnes at full load, and is powered by four MTU 20V 8000 M70 diesel engines in a combined diesel and diesel (CODAD) configuration, giving it a top speed of about 28 kt.

(Jane's)
@Chestnut @Viet @Nilgiri

So it's official

Let's see what VLS system they're going to install.

Agrees, being apart of F-35 supply-chain is much more practical for our aero industries right now, but like what it said above, it's not "chest-thumping" enough to matter, unfortunately.
Interesting to see from the table above, the requirement (if that is what it is) for MBT is 123 unit, so we still need another 20+ MBT for Kostrad, am I reading this right?

I think it's for spares. When I was working on them roughly around 70-80 under PUSENKAV can be active at all times. the rest are placed into maintenance.

I don't think there will be SU35 with Link 16.

They're going to do the same as the MKM's with a French datalink. Which is wholly more expensive to operate and maintain than the Link 16 TDL's we already have.

 

[kooppyyy]

Let's see what VLS system they're going to install.

Ideally, it'll be the 41s, but instead, Thales will probably come along and shoved SLYVER down our throats. Not that it's bad.

 

[striver44]

Ideally, it'll be the 41s, but instead, Thales will probably come along and shoved SLYVER down our throats. Not that it's bad.

'Ideal' is a rare thing in this country

 

[Kansel]

Sorry to break the chit chat but does this mean MRTT is the winner then?

https://www.defensenews.com/air/202...-full-rate-production-decision-for-the-kc-46/

 

[Chestnut]

Ideally, it'll be the 41s, but instead, Thales will probably come along and shoved SLYVER down our throats. Not that it's bad.

Not if Raytheon offers a more lucrative contract, they're getting quite the clout here. Not to mention ODT would probably recommend the Mk 41 since it'll be easier to integrate as the original Iver's are fitted with them.

 

[kooppyyy]

I think it's for spares. When I was working on them roughly around 70-80 under PUSENKAV can be active at all times. the rest are placed into maintenance.

Dude, that's actually a decent figure. Better than the number of M1 aus able to keep online back in the day,