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Well that's still okay, I mean 12 cbg is good but 6 cbg and 6 other (more superior) will be better.
 
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These to answer submarine questions.
 
Nice. First official pic of Pindad Tracked IFV/APC based from the Medium Tank. Anyone got a better quality of thic pic?

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definitely this one but without add on composite skirt and side armor .
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Congrats for vice admiral aan Kurnia to become the second person to head Indonesia coast guard

https://m.detik.com/news/berita/d-4...k-jadi-kabakamla?tag_from=mnews_beritaTerkait



There is three candidate actually, one is in upper hand compared to other claimants. Turkish Germany U214 version of Reis class
im actually more into 10-12 Nagapasa then DCNS after it , just like what brazil and india does , or either the A26 Oceanic Extended Range , we should have 2500-4000 ton submarine for superb detterence effect , especially if they can use sub launched missile / VLS .
 
definitely this one but without add on composite skirt and side armor .
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If Pindad want to develop APC based from Harimau MT then they need to redesign it like moving the engine etc, but the way Pindad develop it will be different from FNSS. Depends on Pindad will they cooperate with FNSS again or not.
It will resemble the turkish one but it is still different, though it will still use same sub component.
Amx - scorpion replaced by Harimau MT, M113 replaced by APC version of the MT, that's nice from logistical perspective.
 
Menhan RI Menerima Kunjungan Kehormatan Duta Besar Italia
Rabu, 12 Februari 2020

Jakarta – Menteri Pertahanan RI H. Prabowo Subianto menerima kunjungan kehormatan Duta Besar Italia untuk Indonesia Vittorio Sandalli, Rabu (12/2) di Ruang Kerja Menteri Pertahanan RI Jakarta.

Kunjungan Duta Besar Italia ini merupakan kunjungan yang ketiga kalinya dalam upaya meningkatkan hubungan bilateral antar kedua negara yang sudah terjalin erat selama ini.

Dalam kunjungan ini membahas Joint Committee for Defence Cooperation (JCDC) yang akan diselenggarakan setiap dua tahun sekali untuk memperluas kerjasama bidang pendidikan ?? meningkatkan program saling kunjung dan mengeksplorasi potensi kerjasama bidang industri pertahanan yang sedang berlangsung.

Hadir mendampingi Menhan RI dalam kesempatan tersebut Sekjen Kemhan Laksamana Madya TNI Dr. Agus Setiadji, S.A.P., M.A., Dirjen Strahan Kemhan Mayor Jenderal TNI Rizerius Eko Hadisancoko,S.E.,S. A.P.,M.Si.dan Karo TU dan Protokol Setjen Kemhan Kolonel Inf Rui F.G.P. Duarte. (DS/SHD).
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If Pindad want to develop APC based from Harimau MT then they need to redesign it like moving the engine etc, but the way Pindad develop it will be different from FNSS. Depends on Pindad will they cooperate with FNSS again or not.
It will resemble the turkish one but it is still different, though it will still use same sub component.
Amx - scorpion replaced by Harimau MT, M113 replaced by APC version of the MT, that's nice from logistical perspective.
the IFV and APC version of kaplan does move their engine in the front hull section .
 
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If Pindad want to develop APC based from Harimau MT then they need to redesign it like moving the engine etc, but the way Pindad develop it will be different from FNSS. Depends on Pindad will they cooperate with FNSS again or not.
It will resemble the turkish one but it is still different, though it will still use same sub component.
Amx - scorpion replaced by Harimau MT, M113 replaced by APC version of the MT, that's nice from logistical perspective.

M113 will be there for decades ahead, this one to replace AMX VTT APC.
 
After the APC version (with the engine placed in front of the vehicle) new possibilities unlocked, SPH version.

M113 will be there for decades ahead, this one to replace AMX VTT APC.
Lol, makes sense.
 
After the APC version (with the engine placed in front of the vehicle) new possibilities unlocked, SPH version.


Lol, makes sense.

Hmm then you want to make them like TAM, but i prefer to put double mortar like Nemo and acquire true purpose made SPH

PT DI finally not in red anymore

:yahoo::yahoo::bunny::bunny:

Dari Rugi, Akhirnya PT Dirgantara Indonesia Raup Laba di 2019
Ferry Sandi, CNBC Indonesia
NEWS

12 February 2020 15:22

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Foto: PT Dirgantara Indonesia ekspor satu pesawat tipe CN235-220 Military Transport ke Nepal untuk Nepalese Army. (CNBC Indonesia/Rahajeng Kusumo Hastuti)
Jakarta, CNBC Indonesia - Komisi VI DPR mengadakan Rapat Dengar Pendapat (RDP) bersama dengan BUMN Industri Strategis. Selain PT Pindad, PT INKA dan PT PAL, hadir juga BUMN yang memproduksi pesawat terbang yakni PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI).

Saat paparan, Rabu (12/2/2020) disebutkan PTDI ternyata sudah mencatatkan laba bersih di 2019 kemarin. Padahal di 2018 perseroan menderita kerugian hingga US$ 38,5 juta

Laba bersih PTDI pada 2019 tercatat US$ 10,5 juta. Laba bersih dipengaruhi oleh pendapatan perseroan yang naik hingga US$ 259,7 juta.


Pada 2019 PTDI memiliki 4 pesawat CN235 dan 6 pesawat NC212. Di 2021 nanti, perseroan berharap memiliki tambahan 2 pesawat CN235.

PTDI berkantor pusat di Jl Pajajaran Nomor 154 Bandung dan memiliki pabrik di Batu Poron Surabaya dan Tasikmalaya.

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/...nya-pt-dirgantara-indonesia-raup-laba-di-2019
 
Hmm then you want to make them like TAM, but i prefer to put double mortar like Nemo and acquire true purpose made SPH

PT DI finally not in red anymore

:yahoo::yahoo::bunny::bunny:

Dari Rugi, Akhirnya PT Dirgantara Indonesia Raup Laba di 2019
Ferry Sandi, CNBC Indonesia
NEWS

12 February 2020 15:22

d3327a33-7a9f-4cd9-aaa1-50c84cead280_169.jpeg

Foto: PT Dirgantara Indonesia ekspor satu pesawat tipe CN235-220 Military Transport ke Nepal untuk Nepalese Army. (CNBC Indonesia/Rahajeng Kusumo Hastuti)
Jakarta, CNBC Indonesia - Komisi VI DPR mengadakan Rapat Dengar Pendapat (RDP) bersama dengan BUMN Industri Strategis. Selain PT Pindad, PT INKA dan PT PAL, hadir juga BUMN yang memproduksi pesawat terbang yakni PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI).

Saat paparan, Rabu (12/2/2020) disebutkan PTDI ternyata sudah mencatatkan laba bersih di 2019 kemarin. Padahal di 2018 perseroan menderita kerugian hingga US$ 38,5 juta

Laba bersih PTDI pada 2019 tercatat US$ 10,5 juta. Laba bersih dipengaruhi oleh pendapatan perseroan yang naik hingga US$ 259,7 juta.


Pada 2019 PTDI memiliki 4 pesawat CN235 dan 6 pesawat NC212. Di 2021 nanti, perseroan berharap memiliki tambahan 2 pesawat CN235.

PTDI berkantor pusat di Jl Pajajaran Nomor 154 Bandung dan memiliki pabrik di Batu Poron Surabaya dan Tasikmalaya.

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/...nya-pt-dirgantara-indonesia-raup-laba-di-2019
aren't singaporeans SSPH Primus also based on APC platform , i believe kaplan platform could do the same .
 
definitely this one but without add on composite skirt and side armor .
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im actually more into 10-12 Nagapasa then DCNS after it , just like what brazil and india does , or either the A26 Oceanic Extended Range , we should have 2500-4000 ton submarine for superb detterence effect , especially if they can use sub launched missile / VLS .

For deterrence i prefer Nuclear powered attack Submarine with VLS and land attack cruise missile

aren't singaporeans SSPH Primus also based on APC platform , i believe kaplan platform could do the same .

Thats why Primus failed on export and only Singapore as user in very limited number, there is lot of weakness on Primus.
 
PT DI finally not in red anymore
Finally, and with the N219 they can get more money. Its time to tap civillian market, their current products mainly is for military and security stuff.
For deterrence i prefer Nuclear powered attack Submarine with VLS and land attack cruise missile
Ill go with conventional attack Submarine with VLS and land attack cruise missile.
 
Tank Harimau, Produk Unggulan Made In RI yang Paling Laris
Ferry Sandi, CNBC Indonesia
NEWS

12 February 2020 12:39

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Foto: CNBC Indonesia/Samuel Pablo
Jakarta, CNBC Indonesia - Komisi VI DPR mengadakan Rapat Dengar Pendapat (RDP) bersama dengan BUMN Industri Strategis. Salah satunya dengan PT Pindad.

PT Pindad merupakan BUMN Industri Strategis yang bergerak dalam pembuatan produk militer dan komersial. Salah satunya tank.

Dirut Pindad, Abraham Mose, mengungkapkan ada dua kendaraan tempur yang mendapatkan kontrak terbesar untuk PT Pindad.


Di antaranya adalah Medium Tank Harimau dan Kendaraan Tempur Infantri 8x8.

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Foto: Dok PT PINDAD


Medium Tank Harimau diorder sebanyak 18 unit dalam periode 2020-2023. Sementara untuk Infantri 8x8 sebanyak 23 unit dari 2020-2022.

Medium Tank Harimau kontraknya seharga US$ 135 juta dan Infantri 8x8 US$ 82 juta.

Abraham mengatakan, visi dari PT Pindad adalah menjadi perusahaan global terkemuka di bidang pertahanan dan keamanan serta produk industrial pada 2026.

"Sedangkan misinya melaksanakan usaha terpadu di bidang peralatan pertahanan dan keamanan serta peralatan industrial untuk mendukung pembangunan nasional dan secara khusus mendukung pertahanan dan keamanan negara," katanya, Rabu (12/2/2020).

Pindad kini memiliki 2 pabrik di Bandung dan Turen. Pindad memiliki 2.588 karyawan.

Pindad juga memproduksi excavator dan vessel atau rel kereta api. Berikut Inovasi PT Pindad :

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Foto: Dok PT PINDAD

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/...-produk-unggulan-made-in-ri-yang-paling-laris
135 million dollars for 18 medium tank units, while 280 million dollars, got 103 mbt leopard and an additional 50 ifv marder *correct me if i'm wrong, is the price really expensive or license fees / TOT or other party fees?
 
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