Indonesia Defence Forum

[Indos]

Do you have a source or is this your own conclusion? It seems strange to me if that's the case.

Doesnt feel strange at all because KFX is seen as F 35 competitor. Here is the quote from DAPA person :

KAI spokesman Kim Ji-hyung told Defense News that the KF-X is still open to U.S. missile systems. Originally, the DAPA hoped the KF-X would be equipped with U.S. armament, such as Raytheon-built AIM-120C advanced medium-range air-to-air missile, and AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles, but the U.S. government has yet to approve the export license of the missiles.

“It’s easy to integrate U.S. missiles into the aircraft, and we’re open to the possibility,” Kim said. “It’s just a matter of U.S. export controls of weapons systems.”

https://www.defensenews.com/2019/10...gram-at-risk-even-as-development-moves-along/

 

[Nike]

Doesnt feel strange at all because KFX is seen as F 35 competitor. Here is the quote from DAPA person :

KAI spokesman Kim Ji-hyung told Defense News that the KF-X is still open to U.S. missile systems. Originally, the DAPA hoped the KF-X would be equipped with U.S. armament, such as Raytheon-built AIM-120C advanced medium-range air-to-air missile, and AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles, but the U.S. government has yet to approve the export license of the missiles.

“It’s easy to integrate U.S. missiles into the aircraft, and we’re open to the possibility,” Kim said. “It’s just a matter of U.S. export controls of weapons systems.”

https://www.defensenews.com/2019/10...gram-at-risk-even-as-development-moves-along/

Not so sound argument, we are talking technically. South Korea is one of the largest user of AMRAAM , they put meteor into KFX is to captive possible middle east and European target

Cobham Wins KF-X Weapons Carriage & Release Award from KAI
22 AUG 2017
Cobham has been awarded a contract in excess of £7M from Korean Aerospace Industries Ltd (KAI) to provide weapons carriage and release equipment for the future KF-X next-generation indigenous multi-role fighter aircraft.

Cobham Mission Systems will deliver by the year 2020 an undisclosed number of Missile Eject Launcher (MEL) units to KAI for KF-X, which is targeted for entry into service by 2025 to replace the Republic of Korea Air Force’s current F-4 and F-5 fleet.

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“Cobham’s MEL is an established market leader and continues to deliver consistently high performance and reliable service,” Ken Kota, Senior Vice President, General Manager of Cobham Mission Systems Wimborne said. “It is a highly robust, long stroke ejection system that allows the interchangeable carriage and release of either Meteor or AMRAAM air-to-air missiles without role change.”

Product Enquiries
Richard Woollam
Business Development Manager
+44 (0) 1202 882 121

https://www.cobham.com/mission-syst...kf-x-weapons-carriage-release-award-from-kai/

 

[Nike]

 

[Kansel]

Defence Intelligence Organisation (DIO) led “in house training” with TNI counterpart Organisation BAIS , commences at the Australian Embassy Jakarta. In its second year, this initiative focuses on working together to solve common intelligence priorities and concerns

Source:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1199620020956848130

 

[Raduga]

anoa amphibious capability testing , what an enormous waterjet

 

[deadlast]

KRI REM 331

Spoiler: REM 331

https://www.facebook.com/

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LPD/BRS progress

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Patkamla Balaroa

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KRI 518 (October 2019)

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OPV project?

Spoiler: PT. Citra Shipyard, Scale Model

 

[Kansel]

I hope we went for this kind of project
https://adbr.com.au/boeing-successfully-tests-loyal-wingman-technology/

KRI REM 331

Spoiler: REM 331

https://www.facebook.com/

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LPD/BRS progress

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Patkamla Balaroa

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KRI 518 (October 2019)

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OPV project?

Spoiler: PT. Citra Shipyard, Scale Model

Where did you get that BRS progress photo? Such coincidence cause my brother send the same exact picture

 

[Kansel]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1199572120050618368

 

[deadlast]

I hope we went for this kind of project
https://adbr.com.au/boeing-successfully-tests-loyal-wingman-technology/


Where did you get that BRS progress photo? Such coincidence cause my brother send the same exact picture

Socmed aggregator mostly, scrubs through keyword\hashtag\location data of open (publicly shared) post from fb,twitter,instagram,etc.

 

[Kansel]

INDONESIA
PRABOWO SUBIANTO BERTEMU DENGAN MENHAN TURKI DAN TENGOK KAPAL SELAM
28 NOVEMBER 2019 DIANEKO_LC TINGGALKAN KOMENTAR
Menteri Pertahanan (Menhan) Prabowo Subianto tengah melakukan kunjungan kerja di Turki. Di negara dua benua itu, Menhan membahas kerja sama pertahanan dengan pejabat terkait hingga menengok industri kapal perang di Golcuk Naval Shipyard.

“Hari ini dari Istanbul, Pak Menhan menuju Ankara melakukan pembicaraan bilateral tentang kerja sama pertahanan dengan Menhan Turki,” kata Staf Khusus Menteri Pertahanan Bidang Komunikasi Publik dan Hubungan Antar-Lembaga, Dahnil Anzar Simanjuntak, sebagaimana dilansir dari laman Detik, Kamis (28/11/2019).

Di hari sebelumnya, Dahnil menyebut Prabowo mengunjungi Golcuk Naval Shipyard, Kocaeli. Selain menengok kapal selam, Prabowo juga berbincang dengan angkatan laut Turki.

“Sebelumnya kemarin beliau melakukan pembicaraan dengan Angkatan Laut Turki dan berkunjung melihat industri perkapalan perang dan kapal selam Turki di Golcuk Naval Shipyard, Kocaeli,” jelas Dahnil.

Dahnil menyebut kerja sama militer dengan Turki sangat strategis. Menurutnya, alutsista Turki telah berkembang pesat.

“Kerja sama militer dengan Turki sangat strategis mengingat industri alutsista Turki berkembang pesat khususnya terkait kapal perang dan kapal selam, ditambah lagi Turki memiliki sejarah militer yang panjang sebagai negara yang kuat secara militer sejak Ottoman Empire,” tutur Dahnil.

Photo: Menteri Pertahanan (Menhan) Prabowo Subianto tengah melakukan kunjungan kerja di Turki. (Istimewa)

Editor: (D.E.S)

 

[Kansel]

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[cabatli_53]

INDONESIA
PRABOWO SUBIANTO BERTEMU DENGAN MENHAN TURKI DAN TENGOK KAPAL SELAM
28 NOVEMBER 2019 DIANEKO_LC TINGGALKAN KOMENTAR
Menteri Pertahanan (Menhan) Prabowo Subianto tengah melakukan kunjungan kerja di Turki. Di negara dua benua itu, Menhan membahas kerja sama pertahanan dengan pejabat terkait hingga menengok industri kapal perang di Golcuk Naval Shipyard.

“Hari ini dari Istanbul, Pak Menhan menuju Ankara melakukan pembicaraan bilateral tentang kerja sama pertahanan dengan Menhan Turki,” kata Staf Khusus Menteri Pertahanan Bidang Komunikasi Publik dan Hubungan Antar-Lembaga, Dahnil Anzar Simanjuntak, sebagaimana dilansir dari laman Detik, Kamis (28/11/2019).

Di hari sebelumnya, Dahnil menyebut Prabowo mengunjungi Golcuk Naval Shipyard, Kocaeli. Selain menengok kapal selam, Prabowo juga berbincang dengan angkatan laut Turki.

“Sebelumnya kemarin beliau melakukan pembicaraan dengan Angkatan Laut Turki dan berkunjung melihat industri perkapalan perang dan kapal selam Turki di Golcuk Naval Shipyard, Kocaeli,” jelas Dahnil.

Dahnil menyebut kerja sama militer dengan Turki sangat strategis. Menurutnya, alutsista Turki telah berkembang pesat.

“Kerja sama militer dengan Turki sangat strategis mengingat industri alutsista Turki berkembang pesat khususnya terkait kapal perang dan kapal selam, ditambah lagi Turki memiliki sejarah militer yang panjang sebagai negara yang kuat secara militer sejak Ottoman Empire,” tutur Dahnil.

Photo: Menteri Pertahanan (Menhan) Prabowo Subianto tengah melakukan kunjungan kerja di Turki. (Istimewa)

Editor: (D.E.S)

The shipyard Indonesian delegation visited is the submarine construction center of Turkish Naval Industry. U-214TN submarines are being constructed in Golcuk shipyard now a days. You maybe know U-214TN is re-designed by Turkish design office in order to solve the problems Greece/S.Korea meets and so The total length of Turkish configuration get longer than original variants. Turkish industry contributes more than %80 of total structure/components.

By 2023/24, Golcuk shipyard will start to construct Turkey’s first domestic submarine called MilDen that will provide more fire power than U-214TN thanks to its vertical launchers. Todays, the design studies of Milden is proceeding. The displacement of Milden is predicted to reach around 3000t.
Akya Blk-1 will be the standart heavy class torpedo of Turkish submarines.

Other navy shipyard is the Istanbul shipyard which is constructing 114m I class frigate at present and 1 I class will be constructed by Istanbul shipyard and others will be transfered to a private shipyard to be selected.

Each I class frigate will be equipped with 16 Atmaca SSM which has a range around 250km.

When First I class is completed there, The shipyard will pass to other startegic project to construct first national destroyer called Tf-2000. The design studies of 7000t destroyer has been completed and It is waiting for its turn. The development schedule of strategic subsystems like ÇafRad radar, VL launchers and Siper long altitude SAM and Gezgin Long range VL cruise missiles will be ready when Tf-2000 hull become ready to launch into sea. Gezgin will be competitor of French MdCn cruise missiles.

I hope Turkey and Indonesia will form a partnership to jointly develop a strategic naval platform which is going to be benefical to both states. Indonesia is perfect country by its infrastructure and economy to form a partnership for such giant projects.

 

[Nike]

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[kooppyyy]

Here is the quote from DAPA person :

KAI spokesman Kim Ji-hyung told Defense News that the KF-X is still open to U.S. missile systems. Originally, the DAPA hoped the KF-X would be equipped with U.S. armament, such as Raytheon-built AIM-120C advanced medium-range air-to-air missile, and AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles, but the U.S. government has yet to approve the export license of the missiles.

“It’s easy to integrate U.S. missiles into the aircraft, and we’re open to the possibility,” Kim said. “It’s just a matter of U.S. export controls of weapons systems.”

https://www.defensenews.com/2019/10...gram-at-risk-even-as-development-moves-along/

Thanks for the link. It sounds like it just a matter of the willingness of the U.S in selling aim-120 missiles rather than integrating the munition into the KFX combat system, hopefully anyway, we shall see.

Doesnt feel strange at all because KFX is seen as F 35 competitor.

I'm not sure about that. The F-35 is full breed fifth-gen aircraft from launch, while KFX would still be 4.5 at its first iteration, I personally don't see the two directly competing with each other. Even ROKAF themselves will compliment KFX with F-35 in the future, something that I hope Indonesia will emulate hihihi.

South Korea is one of the largest user of AMRAAM ,

Yeah, that's exactly my line of thought as well. ROKAF is a large operator of KF-16 and F-15, with F-35 in the future and potential integration of aim-120 into FA-50.

 

[striver44]

KRI REM 331

Spoiler: REM 331

https://www.facebook.com/

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LPD/BRS progress

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Patkamla Balaroa

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KRI 518 (October 2019)

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OPV project?

Spoiler: PT. Citra Shipyard, Scale Model

Look closely to REM 331 video . If im not mustaken Its a VL mica container.