Indonesia Defence Forum

[Ruhnama]

Are UAV also join latgab?
Also what is exocet target in this latgab?

Btw marine use cz 805 while taipur use scar
The beautiful rifle

 

[Nike]

Somewhere at Djuanda Internasional Airport

 

[Rayadipa]

How many CH-4 that we bought ?

 

[HellFireIndo]

Lookt at my instagram url post in the previous page and skipped it into the 4th slide, the video show this ship is actually kinda fast

Lol i meant the government moving fast to make them into a real corvette

 

[Raduga]

Lol i meant the government moving fast to make them into a real corvette

Owaalah , ya kalo badjet buat bakamla nya encerrr ya cepet , if we wanted to turn such thing into a decent firepower corvette i think we need to scrifice that helipad for gun compartment like vls , ciws , torpedo , kinda like how russian designed its corvette like buyan m , and karakurt

 

[Nike]

Indonesian Coast Guard: Will It surface or sink?
8th Sep 2019 20:11

Bali's Maritime Security Body personnels rescue two fishermen off Lombok Strait, Karangasem, Bali. ((Foto ANTARA/Ayu Khania Pranishita/2019))

*Siswanto Rusdi is the director of The National Maritime Institute (NAMARIN)

Scores of drafts for the establishment of the Indonesian Coast Guard have been prepared, discussed and submitted to the President for approval since 2011. Yet the agency has not seen the light of day. When will it become a reality?

On the flip side, Indonesia needs a coast guard to improve its law enforcement at sea, which is currently being carried out by a number of agencies, though their overlapping jurisdictions is causing confusion among shipping players. This problem often ends up in massive and widespread corruption. This is the root cause of the current concern with the lack of action on the coast guard issue.

To be fair, the ministry has not been standing still in fulfilling its mandate. Scores of drafts for the establishment of the coast guard have been prepared, discussed and submitted to the president for approval. But, they were invariably sent back for rectification, reflecting political wrangling among the local authorities that have jurisdiction in the maritime domain.

Amidst this situation, Badan Koordinasi Keamanan Laut (Bakorkamla) or Maritime Security Coordinating Body, the predecessor of Badan Keamanan Laut/Maritime Security Body, splintered and proclaimed itself the Indonesian Coast Guard by virtue of Law No. 32/2014 on Maritime Affairs. Another maneuver which has created more despair than hope is to have a single law enforcement agency with jurisdiction over the nation’s waters.

Bakorkamla’s decision was regretful, since it was a constituent part of the establishment of ICG, together with Kesatuan Penjagaan Laut dan Pantai (KPLP/the Indonesian Sea and Coast Guard), a director-level unit within the Ministry of Transportation. According to the law, the Indonesia Coast Guard is to be established by the merger of Bakorkamla with KPLP.

That is why when the then-Minister of Transportation Ignasius Jonan wanted to establish ICG, as his plan was to elevate KPLP to a directorate-general position within the ministry. The idea was criticized because ICG is not the institution’s subordinate. As soon as it is set up, it will report to the Indonesian president and its head will have a minister-level status.

Law No. 32/2014 on Maritime Affairs, on the other hand, is the legal basis on which Bakamla, the Indonesian Maritime Security Agency, was set up to deal with the wider ocean or maritime domain. It is a ministerial-level institution which reports directly to the president. Of 74 chapters, provisions relating to the organization in question make up 18%, or 11 chapters. Additionally, those chapters were inserted subsequent to the initial draft of the law, which did not contain them.

In Indonesia’s legal system, to enact a new institution or agency, as ordered by law, scores of regulations should be in place. For example, in hierarchical order, below the law there is a government regulation or "Peraturan Pemerintah (PP)", in local parlance. Next is the Presidential Order or Perpres.

In the case of Bakamla, there has been no PP issued by the government until now. The agency only has a Perpres (PP No. 178/2014) signed by President Joko Widodo two months after he took up his presidency in December 2014.

It is interesting to note that although the term Bakamla is translated into English as “coast guard” – and their personnel consequently consider themselves as coast guards – not a single mention of “coast guard” can be found in Law No. 32/2014 on Maritime Affairs. The agency presently is submitting a bill on Maritime Security to parliament to boost its muscle.

Answering a recent media query on the unclear fate of the proposed Indonesian Coast Guard, the new Minister of Transportation, Budi Karya Sumadi, said that he was willing to merge his office’s KPLP with all existing maritime security institutions to set up a single coast guard agency.

He said he would let the Ministry of State Bureaucracy carry out the plan. After three years, replacing Jonan as transport minister and remaining silent on the issue, Budi’s statement was quite shocking. Yet, it is timely because it triggers a new hope in the public’s mind that Indonesia will finally have a real coast guard.

Still, a commitment is not enough; so many things have to be done to make it a reality. Given Indonesia’s legal and political circumstances, the question then is what must be done by the government to quickly establish the Indonesian Coast Guard?

The main problem in the enforcement of laws over national waters is that there are many agencies having jurisdiction and assets, including the National Police and the Indonesian Navy. These institutions at times interdict commercial vessels asking basically irrelevant questions.

For instance, they would order a captain to show a wreck removal certificate (WRC). This is really ridiculous, since Indonesia is not a party to the Nairobi Convention on which the issuance of the certificate is regulated.

If the Indonesian Coast Guard is to be set up, the power of the National Police and the Indonesian Navy, as well as other institutions, such as the Customs, Ministry of Fisheries and more, to intercept vessels at sea must be firstly adjusted and then transferred to ICG as soon as it is later enacted. Consequently, an amendment to laws relating to those powers is urgently required and the agenda for that needs to be properly settled in the 2019-2024 parliament.

The transport minister has set no timeframe for the merger of all existing maritime security institutions into a single coast guard agency. Neither has the Minister of State Bureaucracy. Hopefully, communication between the two ministers will be set in motion soon to finally bring to reality the establishment of the Indonesian Coast Guard.


The views and opinions expressed on this page are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of ANTARA News Agency.
By Siswanto Rusdi*

Editor: Gusti Nur Cahya Aryani

COPYRIGHT © ANTARA 2019

https://m.antaranews.com/en/news/132380/indonesian-coast-guard-will-it-surface-or-sink

 

[umigami]

Found interesting documentary about ex-ss paratrooper turn arm dealer after the war.

Make me thinking, did some of our german weapons prior operation trikora come from this guy and BND illegal business??

I mean if you look at wiki page and list of jaguar class boat (MTB Matjan Tutul dan kawan2nya) there is no mention of Indonesia get its hand on them. Isn't that mean that was an unauthorized undocumented sale?

And our rheinmetall G3 too. There's no documentation of their sale either

 

[Ruhnama]

Found interesting documentary about ex-ss paratrooper turn arm dealer after the war.

Make me thinking, did some of our german weapons prior operation trikora come from this guy and BND illegal business??

I mean if you look at wiki page and list of jaguar class boat (MTB Matjan Tutul dan kawan2nya) there is no mention of Indonesia get its hand on them. Isn't that mean that was an unauthorized undocumented sale?

And our rheinmetall G3 too. There's no documentation of their sale either

The collapsible stock but made in rheimetall not HK (hk make g3 with collapsible stock in 1970s) also it is early varian use it.
Btw why TNI called this rifle CETME?

Ah as i know KRI Macan Tutul didnt have torpedo....

 

[radialv]

2 CH-4 UAV in Djuanda naval airbase
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Credit : Angkasa Review Fb page

ch4 version A or B?

 

[Cromwell]

2 units of CH-4B with scheduled testing of HJ12 missiles on Latgab, temporarily hosted in Djuanda Naval Airbase, Surabaya.
As for Exocet target, it was KRI Sambu 902 ( retired ) refuelling tanker vessel

 

[Nike]

Latgab 2019, airstrike kredit to tni au

 

[HellFireIndo]

Latgab 2019, airstrike kredit to tni au

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Murican style saturation bombing, now they get a taste of it and keep doing it for a couple of time already, they must feel the need of doing more airstrikes like this but on a bigger scale AKA more jets.

 

[trishna_amṛta]

Make me thinking, did some of our german weapons prior operation trikora come from this guy and BND illegal business??

Indonesia or Nederlandsch-Indië and German relation in general (NOT exclusively NAZI) has a long history, but that would be opening a can of worm if it ever open.

 

[Gundala]

Murican style saturation bombing, now they get a taste of it and keep doing it for a couple of time already, they must feel the need of doing more airstrikes like this but on a bigger scale AKA more jets

yea sis, but in the end politics will win most of the time. To be honest Im kinda concern about when we would have additional airframe. 2020 budget doesnt look good for AU, global economic prediction isnt in favor for spending spree. Aside from SU35 uncertainty and its corelation with Viper purchase with some foreign politics spices we are experiencing today it creates additional clouds over our head. Hopefully govt will short it out and find a comprehensive solution soon.

Indonesia or Nederlandsch-Indië and German relation in general (NOT exclusively NAZI) has a long history, but that would be opening a can of worm if it ever open.

Pls do elaborate more. Some worms are good for our health and some dont hehehe, joke aside I would love to see the stand of our relation with Germany. At least the overview of it, since I see the Germans are somewhat distant it self from US this last couple of years. Last Merkel visit to China showed another sign of how they going to apply their political move toward US dispite trade war going on between US-China. I would like to see how its going to effect us politcally and defensely in a future

 

[radialv]

2 units of CH-4B with scheduled testing of HJ12 missiles on Latgab, temporarily hosted in Djuanda Naval Airbase, Surabaya.
As for Exocet target, it was KRI Sambu 902 ( retired ) refuelling tanker vessel

naisss.. fully armed CH-4