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[striver44]

Any chance the Van Speijk class Frigates be transferred to Bakamla instead...? Or is the Ship's condition already too poor...? If still possible it would be a good addition for Bakamla I think, ideal to patrol the SCS / North Natuna sea area.. a big ship with helipad and hangar, military grade radar (albeit an old one), and a sturdy hull good for bumping contest between CG ships in the area . Just need to paint it white, add some water cannons, and remove the missile launchers (if any).. Maybe also replace the 76mm with something smaller (though I prefer to keep it as is)..

The 76mm could be retrofitted to our lpd instead. Our lpd lools more like a civillian ferry without guns.

 

[Ruhnama]

So what do they use for the pre-launch tracking?

Simple, operator just track the target movement ahead for juast 3 second and launch it. In tni vid, likely they simply lauch it not track target because the target static not move cmiiw

The most important factor is, its effective against ERA block, since future tank and MBT in region will much using ERA as add on armor protection

NLAW can hit top attack. Are active armor can defeat NLAW guidance? What if NLAW attack with swarming strategies???
Swarming target with RPG7


Btw oh sad see Ki Hajar dewantara decimussioned. That is legend ship for me and also the first KRI i Know from elementary school
I study in Hang Tuah so this ship picture very Iconic and hanges in my school corridor

The look of this ship very classic......

 

[Cromwell]

https://www.tnial.mil.id/tabid/79/a...7SXRqZbPA0fkYCxYvwj4le_3aNQwUnCsisVMtmt3xuowc

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LIMA KRI PENGAWAL SAMUDERA PURNA TUGAS

Dinamika perubahan lingkungan strategis yang semakin kompleks dan berubah begitu cepat, telah menuntut TNI dan TNI Angkatan Laut untuk menyusun suatu program pembangunan kekuatan yang Tangguh dalam system pertahanan negara. Pembangunan kekuatan pertahanan negara ini tidak hanya melalui penambahan alutsista saja, namun juga melaksanakan peremajaan dan penghapusan bagi alutsista yang telah memasuki tahapan akhir dari masa daur hidupnya (Life Cycle).

Hal tersebut disampaikan Kepala Staf Angkatan Laut Laksamana TNI Siwi Sukma Adji, S.E., M.M.,dalam amanat tertulisnya yang dibacakan oleh Panglima Komando Armada II (Pangkoarmada II) Laksda TNI Mintoro Yulianto, S.Sos, M.Si., selaku Irup Penurunan Ular-ular Perang KRI Koarmada II, bertempat di Dermaga Madura Markas Komando Armada II. Jum’at (16/08/2019).

Lima kapal perang di jajaran Koarmada II yang telah memasuki tahap akhir dari masa tugasnya antara lain KRI Slamet Riyadi- 352, KRI Ki Hajar Dewantara- 364, KRI Teluk Penyu -513, KRI Nusa Utara -584 dan KRI Sambu- 902.

CREDIT : Lembaga keris & tni.mil

@Cromwell

any info regarding this ? what about their successor / replacement ?

Any future prospect about Damen continuing the project is under review since the company itself under investigation by Openbaar Ministrie ( public prosecutor ) due to allegations of corruptions in Indonesia & Africa also the share of work which covered only 5% total cost ( not only Indonesia but f.e even Mexico POLA which 2 modules namely the bridge and engine won't be part of ToT ) as for Odense; idk if we look for the same specs with Sovaernet ( Royal Danes Navy ) or the variant of Iver Huitfeldt and what variant we want also regarding future scope of works with local industries.

 

[Raduga]

Any future prospect about Damen continuing the project is under review since the company itself under investigation by Openbaar Ministrie ( public prosecutor ) due to allegations of corruptions in Indonesia & Africa also the share of work which covered only 5% total cost ( not only Indonesia but f.e even Mexico POLA which 2 modules namely the bridge and engine won't be part of ToT ) as for Odense; idk if we look for the same specs with Sovaernet ( Royal Danes Navy ) or the variant of Iver Huitfeldt and what variant we want also regarding future scope of works with local industries.

that's really sad to hear , the MEF goal would getting more overdue if this kind of problems does not get any solution from our administration .

 

[Nike]

19 aircraft, comprised of F16 and T50 GE. unlike last year flight, there is no flanker this year

 

[Nike]

Marinir TNI AL joint excercise with US Marines Corps in Asembagus training range

 

[barjo]

Simple, operator just track the target movement ahead for juast 3 second and launch it. In tni vid, likely they simply lauch it not track target because the target static not move cmiiw



NLAW can hit top attack. Are active armor can defeat NLAW guidance? What if NLAW attack with swarming strategies???
Swarming target with RPG7


Btw oh sad see Ki Hajar dewantara decimussioned. That is legend ship for me and also the first KRI i Know from elementary school
I study in Hang Tuah so this ship picture very Iconic and hanges in my school corridor

The look of this ship very classic......

Active protection? Yeahhh.. may be sometime yes some time they are fails to.. no one guarantee designly perfect will operately perfect to.. sometime luck is also a factor... as I know humidity also a factor for electronic sensor for active protection

For training ship, may be a bit long for us to have the new Ki Hajar Dewantara, the training software or (combat) mode can be done on ground simulator or on sigma, and sailing trainer can be done on Bima Suci or other ship, its more cheap than building a dedicated trainer combat ship, as we know navy building land shooting range with 76mm otmel ex Ahmad yanni class

Any future prospect about Damen continuing the project is under review since the company itself under investigation by Openbaar Ministrie ( public prosecutor ) due to allegations of corruptions in Indonesia & Africa also the share of work which covered only 5% total cost ( not only Indonesia but f.e even Mexico POLA which 2 modules namely the bridge and engine won't be part of ToT ) as for Odense; idk if we look for the same specs with Sovaernet ( Royal Danes Navy ) or the variant of Iver Huitfeldt and what variant we want also regarding future scope of works with local industries.

Guest what.. i'm smilling now bro... hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

that's really sad to hear , the MEF goal would getting more overdue if this kind of problems does not get any solution from our administration .

Buat sendiri lebih baik bro

19 aircraft, comprised of F16 and T50 GE. unlike last year flight, there is no flanker this year

Care for black flight?

 

[Cromwell]

Active protection? Yeahhh.. may be sometime yes some time they are fails to.. no one guarantee designly perfect will operately perfect to.. sometime luck is also a factor... as I know humidity also a factor for electronic sensor for active protection

For training ship, may be a bit long for us to have the new Ki Hajar Dewantara, the training software or (combat) mode can be done on ground simulator or on sigma, and sailing trainer can be done on Bima Suci or other ship, its more cheap than building a dedicated trainer combat ship, as we know navy building land shooting range with 76mm otmel ex Ahmad yanni class


Guest what.. i'm smilling now bro... hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe


Buat sendiri lebih baik bro


Care for black flight?

Someone told me strange rumor about the naval project, more of scope of work in upcoming project actually. He isn't actually working in naval shipyard but in aircraft MRO company, i think i'll wait everything clear black on white in media

 

[barjo]

Someone told me strange rumor about the naval project, more of scope of work in upcoming project actually. He isn't actually working in naval shipyard but in aircraft MRO company, i think i'll wait everything clear black on white in media

Yes maybe same rumor we have heard both bro... just wait, is the best surprise for all

 

[Cromwell]

Credit to Boeing Space & Defense

Credit to Saab Indonesia

 

[Nike]

Jokowi announces Kalimantan to host Indonesia's new capital city
16th Aug 2019 14:34

Picture of Kalimantan Island (left) (ANTARA/Bayu Prasetyo)

Jakarta (ANTARA) - President Joko Widodo reiterated on Friday morning that Kalimantan Island would serve as a host for Indonesia's new capital city.

“At this historical moment, in the name of Allah Subhanahu Wa Taala , I'd like to ask permission and support from the members of House of Representatives, respected members of the country, and the people in Indonesia to move the capital city to Kalimantan Island,” President Joko Widodo (Jokowi) said during the state of the nation address.

Jokowi, who wore traditional Sasak attire, explained that the capital city would not only be a symbol and an identity of the country, but also it would also represent the progress of the nation.

For the president, moving the capital city from Jakarta to Kalimantan Island would increase the equity and equality of the country’s economic development.

"This move is for 'Indonesia Maju' (Onward Indonesia) Vision. Long live Indonesia," Jokowi noted.

In early August, President Jokowi said the definitive location of Indonesia's new capital would be announced after all comprehensive studies on its relocation had been completed and problems related to it had been resolved.

Jokowi, however, had confirmed that Indonesia's capital city would be relocated to Kalimantan Island.

In connection with this capital city relocation issue, the National Development Planning Ministry and the National Development Planning Agency (Bappenas) has conducted studies and reviews on several locations in Kalimantan Island.

Last July, National Development Planning Minister Bambang Brodjonegoro said the new capital city development would not destroy forest and peatland covering most of the Island's area.

"The area (that will be developed as a new capital city) is vacant. Thus it will not disrupt the forest," Brodjonegoro said.

Regarding the cost of moving the state's capital city, Bappenas has estimated that it would be nearly Rp466 trillion. "Of the total cost of Rp466 trillion, the required state budget is only around Rp30.6 trillion," Bambang Brodjonegoro said on June 15, 2019.

Based on the estimates compiled by Bappenas, the Rp30.6 trillion from the state budget will be used to build state palaces and military/police strategic buildings as the principal functions, green open spaces as helping functions, and for land acquisition.

Aside from the state budget, the Government and the Business Entity Cooperation scheme worth Rp340.6 trillion and private sector funds worth Rp95 trillion will complete the total amount of Rp466 trillion required for the transfer of the state capital.

Funds from the Government and Business Entity Cooperation will be utilized for the construction of government buildings (legislative, executive, judiciary), official housing (multistorey and house-to-house for State Civil and Military/Police Apparatus), educational facilities (on the elementary, middle, and high school level), health facilities, correctional institution, infrastructure such as roads, electricity, telecommunications, water supply, drainage, waste treatment, and sports facilities.

Moreover, funds from the private sector will be used for building educational facilities (at the university level) and health facilities.

"So the majority of us are cooperating with the private sector and SOEs, the state budget is only a trigger. We will also use existing assets," he revealed.

By Genta Tenri Mawangi

Editor: Rahmad Nasution

COPYRIGHT © ANTARA 2019

https://m.antaranews.com/en/news/13...alimantan-to-host-indonesias-new-capital-city

State capital will be in Kalimantan, so there is must be new military formation to defend the capital. Located not far from south China sea, and had land border with Malaysia, Kalimantan need more military formation to defend them at least another Special Region Command like Kodam Jaya and supported by Airforce squadrons.

 

[Raduga]

Someone told me strange rumor about the naval project, more of scope of work in upcoming project actually. He isn't actually working in naval shipyard but in aircraft MRO company, i think i'll wait everything clear black on white in media

is the rumour considered as good or bad ? is it still tied with damen ?

 

[Nike]

Just to remind us about our War of independen

 

[Cromwell]

is the rumour considered as good or bad ? is it still tied with damen ?

Well all i can say for now something big is going to happen within this year. I repeat it, within this year. So we should just wait & see

 

[Raduga]

Well all i can say for now something big is going to happen within this year. I repeat it, within this year. So we should just wait & see

aye aye roger that , hope it would be a good one , by the way happy independence day guys