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Envoy pleads UNSC membership for Turkey and Indonesia
Wednesday, 14 August 2019

Turkish Ambassador to Indonesia Mahmud Erol Kılıç has asked Muslim countries to seek similar rights, as enjoyed by the five permanent members (P5) of the UN Security Council.

Referring to Turkey and Indonesia's close cooperation in defending the rights of Palestinian, he questioned the convergence of powers in just five members of the UNSC, with no say to the entire Muslim world.

Talking to Anadolu Agency, Kılıç said that Muslim counties should ask for equal rights at the UN, because of the large Muslim population in the world.

"Indonesia has the fifth largest population in the world and is the largest Muslim country," he said.

The envoy said Turkey and Indonesia share similar values, while defending the rights of Palestinian people at international forums.

"Both Turkey and Indonesia stand strongly behind Palestinian rights. The two put their hands together,” he said.

The ambassador recalled the speech of President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, in New York some time ago, stressing that world is bigger than five countries.

The envoy said Erdoğan meant, to argue for the inclusion of Turkey and Indonesia, in the global power structure.

Kılıç said Palestinian groups have been aggressively seeking support to the recognition of their rights at international level.

"They have lobbies everywhere even in the Middle East," he said.

Turkey and Indonesia have put out a strong support, to their cause across the world, said the ambassador.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/envoy-pleads-unsc-membership-for-turkey-and-indonesia-145748

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Well, to becoming member of the Big Five need more than big population, armed forces might and economy, hence Japan and Germany should be part of this exclusive group since long time a go, so with India (a nuclear power). There is no way outsider can join this group unless the world order being arranged once more (by the baptism of War on scale of WW II)

 

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[Raduga]

Well, to becoming member of the Big Five need more than big population, armed forces might and economy, hence Japan and Germany should be part of this exclusive group since long time a go, so with India (a nuclear power). There is no way outsider can join this group unless the world order being arranged once more (by the baptism of War on scale of WW II)

germany armed forces isn't really that great right now compared to turkey and italy , italy naval power were among the best in european hemisphere but sadly underrated , while for the airforce and ground forces is probably on par with german and britain

 

[Nike]

germany armed forces isn't really that great right now compared to turkey and italy , italy naval power were among the best in european hemisphere but sadly underrated , while for the airforce and ground forces is probably on par with german and britain

West Germany in the past before the collapse of Soviet Union got the largest army formation in continental Europe beside Soviet Union. Dont look at their measly condition today when there is no actual threat to justify such expenditure. To become an equal of big five, tradition as part of old power is a must i think and none is eligible

 

[Gundala]

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That Ganendra and Titah Hitam looks like a Batman boat!!

Well, to becoming member of the Big Five need more than big population, armed forces might and economy, hence Japan and Germany should be part of this exclusive group since long time a go, so with India (a nuclear power). There is no way outsider can join this group unless the world order being arranged once more (by the baptism of War on scale of WW II)

I was about to say the same thing sis. Indonesia has major political influence, but for now it doesnt mean much if we dont have enough economy power. With economy power we can create military power, and with military power and economy power we would have large options in diplomacy. I think what turkey said is just to test the water and see if she can raise the leverage and have more chips in their diplomacy in regards to political turmoil she has with US and Nato allies (F35 vs S400)

 

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PT Elmas Viana Djaja
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So futuristic for a submersible type vehicle. Are this design have stealth feature?


Turkey kinda funny but "greget"
In 1974-1978 Turkey get embargo because inavading cyprus

But, turkey favorite weapon is came from USA!
They didnt like "some Indonesian forumer/netizen" who always said buy russia weapon free from embargo, free to use as we want, free from human right etc

They still want US weapon, and start manufacturing them. They have stinger license, general electric engine license, they small arm manufacturer also exporting many pistol and rifle to US civilian etc.

(While they buy s400 they still want patriot-seriuously what- some analysis speculated that turk need SAM because many pilot purged in 2016)

Turkey manufactured some part of patriot, as i read from othee source like quora or any media many mention that if Turkey get ToT patriot, turkey can sell with cheap price, it is about money.....

Ah about s400 vs f35 there is thread about that in this forum, and many vote for s400


Maybe their army is battle hardned than TNI, from korea to cyprus, kurdistan mountain to syria until now......


Italian navy likely strong in meditaranen
They have 3 carrier many frigate and opv
Also they buy F35
They frigate equipped with PAAMS system

Also spanish have strong navy in region likely (in 16th century they are strongest in THE WORLD hehehe)
They have carrier and alvaro de bazan class aegis ship

 

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So futuristic for a submersible type vehicle. Are this design have stealth feature?


Turkey kinda funny but "greget"
In 1974-1978 Turkey get embargo because inavading cyprus

But, turkey favorite weapon is came from USA!
They didnt like "some Indonesian forumer/netizen" who always said buy russia weapon free from embargo, free to use as we want, free from human right etc

They still want US weapon, and start manufacturing them. They have stinger license, general electric engine license, they small arm manufacturer also exporting many pistol and rifle to US civilian etc.

(While they buy s400 they still want patriot-seriuously what- some analysis speculated that turk need SAM because many pilot purged in 2016)

Turkey manufactured some part of patriot, as i read from othee source like quora or any media many mention that if Turkey get ToT patriot, turkey can sell with cheap price, it is about money.....

Ah about s400 vs f35 there is thread about that in this forum, and many vote for s400


Maybe their army is battle hardned than TNI, from korea to cyprus, kurdistan mountain to syria until now......


Italian navy likely strong in meditaranen
They have 3 carrier many frigate and opv
Also they buy F35
They frigate equipped with PAAMS system

Also spanish have strong navy in region likely (in 16th century they are strongest in THE WORLD hehehe)
They have carrier and alvaro de bazan class aegis ship

https://www.mbda-systems.com/2018/0...e-indigeneous-air-and-missile-defense-system/

If Turkey sticks with SAMP/T platform from MBDA as their long range air defence system perhaps they're saved from this whole CAATSA issue. The problem is they get to push over S-400 deal while Trump is still in office.

 

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https://www.mbda-systems.com/2018/0...e-indigeneous-air-and-missile-defense-system/

If Turkey sticks with SAMP/T platform from MBDA as their long range air defence system perhaps they're saved from this whole CAATSA issue. The problem is they get to push over S-400 deal while Trump is still in office.

A slight correction, Turkey has NOT been sanctioned under CAATSA... at least not yet... It's true that Turkey has been kicked out of the F-35 program because of the S400 purchase, however this is not due to CAATSA sanction. But because the US doesn't want to risk exposing the F-35 to the S400 system. Turkey will definitely try to integrate the S400 to it's AD system, and that means 'registering' all its fighters to the S400 system (to prevent misidentification and/or friendly fire). The US is worried this will enable the S400 to identify and track the F-35, or even worse, leak this data back to Russia. So even without CAATSA, Turkey (or any other country that buys the S400) will not be allowed to get the F-35.

As with regards to the CAATSA sanction, there are rumours that the US is now reluctant to implement it to Turkey as they don't want to upset Turkey even more, and risk Turkey getting closer to Russia & China bloc. So that's why so far there has been no talks of adding CAATSA sanctions to Turkey... yet.

 

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I'm Sorry for bringing up an old post.
Just want to ask what kind of jdam we got?
(For mk82, 83, 84, or all ??)
Could jdam operate in no GPS environment?
Are you sure we got apg 68v9?
Because if remember correctly few years ago there was a news that we only got apg 66 software update (I hope this is wrong)

 

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Idk if you guys have seen this video, but its awesome!! Seeing Hercules is usually just another "meh transport plane" to me, but seeing all six hercules in formation and droping para troopers while listening to bendera song by cokelat is just awesome. Turn on your speaker and enjoy

 

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Idk if you guys have seen this video, but its awesome!! Seeing Hercules is usually just another "meh transport plane" to me, but seeing all six hercules in formation and droping para troopers while listening to bendera song by cokelat is just awesome. Turn on your speaker and enjoy

Wish we can acquire more of them in suffice number so we can do more jumping ops on much larger scale , Hercules is already a legend on its own.

 

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The picture of TNI boarding school kitchen, quite modern and have a lot of support equipment. Supported by nutrition specialist doctor